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UK cancels pioneering £1bn carbon capture and storage competition
Topic Started: Nov 26 2015, 03:16 AM (108 Views)
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http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/nov/25/uk-cancels-pioneering-1bn-carbon-capture-and-storage-competition

Another Con pledge bites the dust...
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AndyK
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Nov 26 2015, 03:16 AM
It was a stupid idea anyway.
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RJD
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Love to see the economic assessments to justify such an investment and the risk of success. My worry is that it could be about as stupid as subsidising energy from the Sun on rooftops in the north of England where the Sun rarely shines or those ugly windmills placed where there is little expected wind.
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Nov 26 2015, 09:57 AM
Love to see the economic assessments to justify such an investment and the risk of success. My worry is that it could be about as stupid as subsidising energy from the Sun on rooftops in the north of England where the Sun rarely shines or those ugly windmills placed where there is little expected wind.
One hopes that commonsense has prevailed over this appalling nonsense of believing CO2 is some kind of villain, when levels have been far higher in prehistoric times according to polar ice cores.
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RJD
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Nov 26 2015, 10:01 AM
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Nov 26 2015, 09:57 AM
Love to see the economic assessments to justify such an investment and the risk of success. My worry is that it could be about as stupid as subsidising energy from the Sun on rooftops in the north of England where the Sun rarely shines or those ugly windmills placed where there is little expected wind.
One hopes that commonsense has prevailed over this appalling nonsense of believing CO2 is some kind of villain, when levels have been far higher in prehistoric times according to polar ice cores.
I am willing to be persuaded that CO2 does have an effect, unfortunately, the community that seeks to persuade me has, due to it's religious zealotry and fiddling of evidence, achieved the exact opposite. I am now extremely suspicious of absolutely everything they say.
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Steve K
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Nov 26 2015, 03:16 AM
Well this is what their manfesto actually said

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We have been the greenest government ever, setting up the world’s first Green Investment Bank, signing a deal to build the first new nuclear plant in a generation, trebling renewable energy generation to 19 per cent, bringing energy efficiency measures to over one million homes, and committing £1 billion for carbon capture and storage.


I suppose they could claim that was all in the past tense ;-)

This has been the worst government in memory for so rapidly reneging on manifesto and campaign statements that they knew damn well what the public would have thought.

Time for stronger electoral legislation forcing recall elections when such occurs


As for the promise itself it was just silly wasn't it
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AndyK
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If you want to get carbon out of the air, connect the wind turbines up to this....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/energy/fuel/9619269/British-engineers-produce-amazing-petrol-from-air-technology.html
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Boxter
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The tories have got form with broken post election pledges like their kick us out of power if we fail to reduce net immigration to tens of thousands

That was back in 2010!!

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RJD
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AndyK
Nov 26 2015, 01:17 PM
If you want to get carbon out of the air, connect the wind turbines up to this....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/energy/fuel/9619269/British-engineers-produce-amazing-petrol-from-air-technology.html

5L of petrol in 3 months, my goodness I could make more Moonshine in the same period of time.
Interesting but I do not see any cost forecasts. If £100 per litre then I will not be pumping any into my gas guzzler.

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RJD
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Nov 26 2015, 04:27 PM
The tories have got form with broken post election pledges like their kick us out of power if we fail to reduce net immigration to tens of thousands

That was back in 2010!!

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Oh dear and you think others are different? It is the nature of Politicians and politics. Looks a good idea until you try and implement, then pragmatism says "dump it".

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Rich
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Nov 26 2015, 11:04 AM
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Nov 26 2015, 03:16 AM
Well this is what their manfesto actually said

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We have been the greenest government ever, setting up the world’s first Green Investment Bank, signing a deal to build the first new nuclear plant in a generation, trebling renewable energy generation to 19 per cent, bringing energy efficiency measures to over one million homes, and committing £1 billion for carbon capture and storage.


I suppose they could claim that was all in the past tense ;-)

This has been the worst government in memory for so rapidly reneging on manifesto and campaign statements that they knew damn well what the public would have thought.

Time for stronger electoral legislation forcing recall elections when such occurs


As for the promise itself it was just silly wasn't it
Hold on a mo, when I suggested that winning manifestos should be legally binding, I do recall you saying to me that that was an impracticality and could never be enforced and neither should it be, I think that happened in the previous forum.
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Nov 26 2015, 04:27 PM
The tories have got form with broken post election pledges like their kick us out of power if we fail to reduce net immigration to tens of thousands

That was back in 2010!!

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Let more lies and broken promises by Scammer's.
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Rich
Nov 26 2015, 06:28 PM
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Nov 26 2015, 11:04 AM
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Nov 26 2015, 03:16 AM
Well this is what their manfesto actually said

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We have been the greenest government ever, setting up the world’s first Green Investment Bank, signing a deal to build the first new nuclear plant in a generation, trebling renewable energy generation to 19 per cent, bringing energy efficiency measures to over one million homes, and committing £1 billion for carbon capture and storage.


I suppose they could claim that was all in the past tense ;-)

This has been the worst government in memory for so rapidly reneging on manifesto and campaign statements that they knew damn well what the public would have thought.

Time for stronger electoral legislation forcing recall elections when such occurs


As for the promise itself it was just silly wasn't it
Hold on a mo, when I suggested that winning manifestos should be legally binding, I do recall you saying to me that that was an impracticality and could never be enforced and neither should it be, I think that happened in the previous forum.
I did? :rubchin: I recall some discussion but yes likely on the old forum and I think you can make the individuals liable for manifestos, just likely to lose their seats

However I've always been and certainly am now very against the winning of elections by deception and that appears to have happened in this one with that cap on care expenditure and now this pledge on carbon both of which would have got them votes and both of which they should have known at that time they could not afford

(not 2010 as Boxter and Lewis allege as we didn't elect the relevant party then)

Have to say all the manifestos in May ducked the £ issues so much that seems they all would have had to renege.
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Nov 26 2015, 11:04 AM


As for the promise itself it was just silly wasn't it

Well; No!
Neither can a 'commitment' to do something (in the future) be called 'past tense'.
It is an obligation to do something in the next government (if elected), and revoking it a broken pledge.

It shouldn't be too difficult to call it what is, and not something else.
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