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| Jeremy Corbyn 'Systematically' Attacked By British Press The Moment He Became Leader, Research Claim | |
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| Topic Started: Nov 26 2015, 09:41 PM (1,558 Views) | |
| Cymru | Nov 26 2015, 09:41 PM Post #1 |
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/26/jeremy-corbyn-media-coverage_n_8653886.html We do not have a free press, we have a press where one is free to say what one wishes within the limitations set by an establishment which on the one hand does not want to appear to be silencing all dissent because that would make their power obvious, but on the other hand will not allow popular upstarts like Corbyn to become a genuine threat to them. This establishment prefers the manufactured opposition they act out their 'disagreements' with for the public's benefit. |
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| Steve K | Nov 26 2015, 09:48 PM Post #2 |
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They have been a bit wrong on this. There is much to criticise Corbyn for but they have over and over again gone for stupid points of dubious or no relevance The Clarkson piece I mentioned in another thread was very good on this http://w11.zetaboards.com/UK_Debate_Mk_2/single/?p=8357758&t=11422590 |
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| Lewis | Nov 26 2015, 10:06 PM Post #3 |
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I quite like Jeremy Corbyn, because unlike Scameron keeps to his principles. Moreover that stated, he is no leader and that more than anything is what is required for Labour. |
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| johnofgwent | Nov 26 2015, 10:10 PM Post #4 |
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It .. It is GREEN !!
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i confidently predict that within the next three months there will be an islamist terrorist atrocity in the uk and a vote of no confidence in the labour leader. he will be history by lent. |
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| Tigger | Nov 26 2015, 10:31 PM Post #5 |
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Or alternatively in the next fortnight we start bombing Syria with Cameron's statement he is doing it to protect us still ringing in our ears, shortly followed by by the atrocity you mention. What then of Corbyn? Is he then proved right and the public turn against those beating the drums of war? Events can rapidly change perceptions. |
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| Affa | Nov 26 2015, 11:11 PM Post #6 |
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We can be reasonably sure that the popular press will not ........ will not turn on Cameron and call Corbyn correct. But events can change perceptions as you say ........ what the UN decide, what Russia does, both will influence decisions here, perceptions here. |
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| Opinionater | Nov 27 2015, 12:05 AM Post #7 |
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Good chance of the first one but not sure about Corbyn. Let's see what support he gets in the next few days on his stance on Syria. Things may not go the way the press is forecasting. Strange thing the Labour Party, look who they selected to lead them. Edited by Opinionater, Nov 27 2015, 12:06 AM.
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| Rich | Nov 27 2015, 12:14 AM Post #8 |
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But did they select him? or was it just the sudden rush of £3.00 new ultra leftists that appointed him? I confidently say that the greater Labour supporters will say (if asked) that they do not agree with the voting system that Millibore enacted, it would be most interesting to find out the demographics, nationalities, job situations etc etc of the many who voted for Mr Corbyn, one strongly suspects that it would not have been the lifelong members/supporters of the Labour movement which I do not recognise at the head of the Labour party as is. PS,....The union barons have been very very quiet of late, are they waiting for their acolytes voting pattern to take full effect with the shadow cabinet until they all take on a marxist position for fear of deselection? Edited by Rich, Nov 27 2015, 12:17 AM.
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| Opinionater | Nov 27 2015, 12:28 AM Post #9 |
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If they kick him out and don't change the rules the same £3 voters would be able to vote again for the new leader, could he get reelected, then who would be embarrassed? The next week or so could be very interesting times for the Labour Party. We may even see a split into two parties. |
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| Gnikkk | Nov 27 2015, 01:26 AM Post #10 |
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We also have the BBC which give us an almost Marxist view of it all, at our expense. |
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| C-too | Nov 27 2015, 07:51 AM Post #11 |
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Thanks for the laugh.
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| C-too | Nov 27 2015, 07:56 AM Post #12 |
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Unfortunately you may be right. The infiltration by the Magic Wand brigade has already created splits within the party. |
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| Lewis | Nov 27 2015, 08:02 AM Post #13 |
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On the contrary, it was the infiltration of the £3 Tories who secured Jezza's future as leader. |
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| RJD | Nov 27 2015, 08:26 AM Post #14 |
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I understand that Corbyn did not let Hilary know the contents of his speech before he gave it and this appears to have been done with intent to deceive. There is no glue holding this bunch together, I could not call them a clique or a cabal just a bunch, not only do they sing from differing Hymn Sheets they also use different Bibles. If Corbyn does not get a grip over his colleagues and forge a common view then he is lost. He has to force collective responsibility, but I doubt he has the skill, intellect or wisdom to be able to achieve such. One cannot run a supposed Opposition in this way. Come back Gordon Brown all is forgiven. |
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| Tytoalba | Nov 27 2015, 10:43 AM Post #15 |
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Corbyn , with the support of the extreme left in Britain, is trying to change the political stance and identity of the labour party now, and into the future. Not for him the centre ground, but the dictatorial Marxist left wing philosophy. The welfare of the country and its standing in the world is of little consequence to him or McDonnell the shadow chancellor with his little red book as his guiding light as long as they can achieve their own political aim. Do you really think that these are the people who can lead the Labour party to victory in the next general election. Corbyn never seems to speak off the cuff, he always reads what he has previously prepared. http://www.telegraph.co.uk › Finance › Autumn Statement · |
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| Affa | Nov 27 2015, 11:14 AM Post #16 |
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Such emotion, such rabid reactions! How has Corbyn managed to stir up such attention if he is a non-entity, a nobody with no threat? When the Tories were toying with the idea of choosing Redmond (Spock) for leader I had no such reaction, knew he was a disaster, knew to remain calm. |
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| Oddball | Nov 27 2015, 11:31 AM Post #17 |
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I give Corbyn creds for sticking to the dictates [so far] of his pacifist conscience, BUT I have great reservations as to his veracity in positioning himself as a senior person in one of our major political parties, in a country with so many political, historic and military links and obligations around the world. He must have known that his peacenik stance, even against the likes of ISIS, would inevitably lead to strains and ruptures in the ranks of his Party, and a voluble 'caning' from the usual ranks of the 'hawks' in the media and elsewhere. He might get away with it if he was a politician in the likes of Bhutan. |
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| Steve K | Nov 27 2015, 11:57 AM Post #18 |
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On a similar theme I see Ken Livingstone is being described in even the left wing media today as holding Blair responsible for the July 2005 London bombings Livingstone blames Blair Ken is quite capable of such gaffs but no he didn't as the video shows http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34941658 |
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| papasmurf | Nov 27 2015, 11:58 AM Post #19 |
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Precisely, why are the Tories and the right wing media so scared of him? |
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| RJD | Nov 27 2015, 12:28 PM Post #20 |
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I have grave doubts as to Corbyn's loyalty to the UK and it's people. |
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| RJD | Nov 27 2015, 12:37 PM Post #21 |
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Let us face the fact that he has been peddling his conscience for more than 30 years now and the Labour Party, as it was in the past, rejected him. Not for reasons of votes but in the sincere belief that his love thy enemy hate thy military and all that the UK stands for is decidedly un-British and not helpful to Joe Public, hence in the countries interest. If he was a genuine pacifist with beliefs based on his religion then I could respect that, but his position is based on his dislike of his country. I think there is sufficient information on this man and his stated views in the public domain to wonder why he carries a British Passport. Maybe he dreams that one day it with have a hammer and sickle emblazoned in red on the front cover. What we now see are the rats nest of Marxists that have been hiding in Labour's ranks. |
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| Steve K | Nov 27 2015, 12:37 PM Post #22 |
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Surely Corbyn has great loyalty . . . . . . . to what the UK would be once everyone agrees with him |
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| RJD | Nov 27 2015, 01:25 PM Post #23 |
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Unlikely event is it not? I really am amazed at how many in the Labour Party are tolerating these nincompoops, looks like they are just waiting for them to crash and burn, but they are not thinking about how many years it will take to repair the damage to that once mainstream Political Party. Once upon a time people listened to what the Labour Party Leader said, they might not agree but they listened. This bunch are an embarrassment even to those that do not follow the Labour banner. They make me cringe with embarrassment. Yes the Press give the man a hard time, but if a Nincompoop puts himself up for "Leader of the Nation" he should expect a maelstrom of brickbats, thats politics, they are only testing his weak credentials. |
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| RJD | Nov 27 2015, 01:30 PM Post #24 |
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It is not funny anymore.
- LINK As I said earlier if the man cannot demand respect and allegiance then he is not fit to lead that Party. It is a shambles and they are bickering. |
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| RJD | Nov 27 2015, 01:40 PM Post #25 |
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For Labour to win the next GE and form a Gov. it will have to reverse it's losses in Scotland. Now that does not seem likely. They could dream of a coalition with the Lib Dems but after the drubbing they received at the last GE it is likely they would avoid such especially when it is a group of MPs who cannot form a coalition within it's own ranks. |
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| RJD | Nov 27 2015, 02:01 PM Post #26 |
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| Steve K | Nov 27 2015, 02:03 PM Post #27 |
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They'd form a coalition with the SNP. |
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| RJD | Nov 27 2015, 03:28 PM Post #28 |
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Now that would go down like a lead balloon with the English. Not sure that SNP would wish to give Labor any legitimacy anyway who would join with a bunch that cannot even agree a common approach among themselves? |
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| Steve K | Nov 27 2015, 04:07 PM Post #29 |
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Necessity can make for strange bedfellows. Corbyn and Sturgeon have a very convergent policy mindset |
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| papasmurf | Nov 27 2015, 04:15 PM Post #30 |
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As a sad bastard who watches select committee meetings and debates in Parliament, the SNP seems to have a lot of competent and on the ball MPs. They are certainly a far more effective opposition to the Tories than Labour are. |
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| RJD | Nov 27 2015, 04:21 PM Post #31 |
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I just received this email from someone I debate with elsewhere and thought itt worth sharing:- David L |
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| Opinionater | Nov 27 2015, 04:36 PM Post #32 |
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But the words will be very different dependent on the person viewing. Sure the left would see a media in panic to undermine this man whilst the righ would see a fool attempting to be leader Edited by Opinionater, Nov 27 2015, 04:39 PM.
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| papasmurf | Nov 27 2015, 04:42 PM Post #33 |
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What seems to be missed is David Cameron has not got the backing of all of his MPs for bombing Syria. I watched the debate and Cameron has not made a case and used some spurious numbers during his speech than even several of his own MPs questioned. What is bombing Syria going to achieve of itself? More could be achieved by bombing parts of High Wycombe. |
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| RJD | Nov 27 2015, 04:47 PM Post #34 |
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Panic? You jest the sound is pure derision blown on a band of Cor Anglais. |
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| skwirked | Nov 27 2015, 05:07 PM Post #35 |
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They will balace scotland's busget while helping the poorest. Best party in the UK IMO, just a shame about the anti-English nationalism.. |
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| Alberich | Nov 27 2015, 05:21 PM Post #36 |
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I guess I am as right wing as they come. Not hard right, but certainly right of centre, but even I can recognise, and deprecate the treatment meted out to leading figures in the Labour party from time to time. Milliband and his battle with a bacon sandwich. Brown and his unguarded comments on that "bigoted woman". And almost everything Corbyn says or does! I would much rather they concentrated on what the man has to say, rather than how he appears, or if he encounters a situation that most of us can recognise has the potential for a prat-fall. In Corbyn's case, he has been arguing his fairly hard left stance since he became a back bencher, and was not about to change his lifelong beliefs because the party elected him as leader. Attack the policies, not the man. |
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| RJD | Nov 27 2015, 05:44 PM Post #37 |
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I think that is exactly what they do, but a man put up to lead needs to have his leadership abilities scrutinised and these are in essence "the man". Not the look of the man, not his accent, not his skin, but what he says and the way he manages his politics. I think even he recognises that he is not made of the right stuff, he is a fumbling buffoon who seemingly cannot lead from the front. |
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| skwirked | Nov 27 2015, 06:10 PM Post #38 |
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I wish more Tories were like you (and a handful of others on this forum). If the party was made up of you guys it'd be 100x better. Edited by skwirked, Nov 27 2015, 06:10 PM.
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| Rich | Nov 27 2015, 06:46 PM Post #39 |
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I am going to have to get some pain killers, my sides are splitting with laughter, it is like a scene from the Keystone cops, and yet on a serious note, they get paid a small fortune to behave like fools. |
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| Affa | Nov 27 2015, 08:39 PM Post #40 |
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i'm reminded of how the establishment neutered Julian Assange ...... If Corbyn survives the muck raking, they'll make the mud up and make it stick. |
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