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| Now that dave has got his way on bombing Syria...; What about extremists let into the UK or go to Syria? | |
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| Topic Started: Dec 3 2015, 03:17 PM (502 Views) | |
| Jonksy | Dec 3 2015, 03:17 PM Post #1 |
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What is he going to do about the ISIS and all the other muslim extremists he has let into the UK or the nut jobs who go over to fight for ISIS..? |
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| Affa | Dec 5 2015, 10:27 PM Post #81 |
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^ These two are comedic references to there being civilian casualties! afasiaa there is nobody claiming that such casualties can be totally avoided ...... and some are anticipated. So not bollox, but genuine causes for concern.
Since one of my main reasons for not wanting the UK to get thus involved was that I do not believe the UK input is either necessary or particularly effective - making very little difference (I remarked there was no shortage of bombers or bombs already being deployed), then I have to agree with the comment ..... it was pointless rhetoric to pretend our participation was important. There isn't even a declared objective, a mark in the sand crossing which we can assert that we were successful - that we made a difference and won. Those claims will however be made, mark or no mark. It's tax payer's money down the drain! . Edited by Affa, Dec 5 2015, 10:30 PM.
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 10:34 PM Post #82 |
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^Neatly put. |
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| Steve K | Dec 5 2015, 11:42 PM Post #83 |
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Well he should headline his piece as 'comedy' and the Guardian shouldn't print it. Is Viz still printed? Sadly some gullible people would read that shite and fall for it. As you and Affa just proved Edited by Steve K, Dec 5 2015, 11:43 PM.
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 11:44 PM Post #84 |
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Did you really not know that he was a comic? |
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| Steve K | Dec 5 2015, 11:48 PM Post #85 |
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I might have heard of him but perhaps you've never heard of comics writing serious pieces. You fell for it because you wanted to believe it so much. The phrase 'owned' comes to mind. It was an evil piece of writing that the Guardian should have rejected. How about some comic writes a piece in a serious paper about Corbyn fiddling his expenses, Watson fiddling worse etc. Would that be OK in your book? |
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 11:55 PM Post #86 |
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Top tip: don't project your gullibility onto others. I have watched Mr Boyle for about 10+ years and read his stuff, seen his interviews etc. Don't bloody tell me I 'fell' for it and got owned. FFS. |
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 11:56 PM Post #87 |
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And in answer to your question: if it was funny , yes. Check the jokes section for a funny article I posted about Corbyn. |
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| Steve K | Dec 6 2015, 12:00 AM Post #88 |
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Perhaps you didn't read the header above Boyle's article
No mention of comedy at all So we have to take it as his real opinion and it shows that Boyle is so pig ignorant he probably needs a map to find his own arse. But hey ho you keep praising him. |
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 12:04 AM Post #89 |
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You are being a total..urgh. Check David Mitchell, Stewart Lee, Vicky Coren, Armando Iannucci's columns..guess what heading they come under? I guess you need to have a signed stamped on it saying COMEDY don't you? Edited by skwirked, Dec 6 2015, 12:05 AM.
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| Tigger | Dec 6 2015, 12:04 AM Post #90 |
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I find Boyle very astute, and unlike most in the alleged quality press free of pomposity and patronising waffle. Very funny bloke as well, in a no prisoners style obviously. |
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| Tigger | Dec 6 2015, 12:05 AM Post #91 |
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 12:07 AM Post #92 |
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He's done sone great interviews on russia today as well, with that irritating mad jewish NY economist guy. IIRC in one of them he ripped the p1ss out of the guy and Russia as well and was never invited back on If you haven't read Stewart Lee, David Mitchell, Vicky Coren, Armando Iannucci's columns I'd thoroughly recommend them.
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| Steve K | Dec 6 2015, 12:11 AM Post #93 |
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No because here's the thing. None of those position lies in an opinion column aiming to create a groundswell of falsely informed opinion for their cause. But Boyle did. And when I point out the bollocks he's posted you say "it's only a joke" When was supposed deliberate killing of children a joke? |
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 12:15 AM Post #94 |
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Sorry..you are talking complete cobblers. Almost every single one of Lee's stories is a very factual sounding utter utter lie that gets more and more ridiculous. With some of them it could be difficult to tell if he was telling the truth or not - and he basically never does. And yes he's said far far far worse things than Boyle. |
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| Steve K | Dec 6 2015, 12:17 AM Post #95 |
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Far worse than Boyle who makes money out of abusing the disabled? |
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 12:20 AM Post #96 |
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He's "abused" (if you call ironic mocking abuse) disabled dead african kids. Yes Boyle, Carr and many many others come out with extreme stuff but tbh, Boyle is extremely compassionate and humanitarian as the article proves, despite the humour..And Lee is the same. Edited by skwirked, Dec 6 2015, 12:21 AM.
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| Rich | Dec 6 2015, 12:29 AM Post #97 |
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I would not call them comedians either...foul mouthed uneducated lefties would be more appropriate, imo. |
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| Steve K | Dec 6 2015, 12:31 AM Post #98 |
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No that article proves he's a bullshitting liar who'd say anything to further his own aims And if you think mocking dead Africans is his worst then you need to google him. Utterly disgusting piece of human detritus is Boyle but a very rich one. How sad he got into trouble over tax Still you can judge a person by who they praise |
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 12:34 AM Post #99 |
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You sure can judge a person by who they praise, it works both ways. Except I don't give a fuck what you think.Anyway. What's his 'worst' in your book then? ..I wonder if you took it 'to heart' like you took this the wrong way? Edited by skwirked, Dec 6 2015, 12:35 AM.
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| Stonefish | Dec 6 2015, 12:43 AM Post #100 |
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Well said Steve. |
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| Steve K | Dec 6 2015, 12:44 AM Post #101 |
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Probably the abusing in public of the mother of a disabled kid. There's also the abuse of Harvey Price etc etc all of which will have to live with what your mate did to them just to earn more money. Edited by Steve K, Dec 6 2015, 12:45 AM.
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| Stonefish | Dec 6 2015, 12:45 AM Post #102 |
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So when I call someone a nigger they should just take it as intended,as a joke yes? Strange that,because I don't think you'd like that ,but mocking dead Africans is ok .....file under weirdo lol. |
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 12:58 AM Post #103 |
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Nah you just don't understand the concept of irony and I doubt you even know the story I am referring to..so how can you possibly judge? .. File under it's only funny if I say it is.
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 01:00 AM Post #104 |
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Not heard about any of this, links please? He's not my 'mate' is he, nome of these comics would be people I'd want to know IRL. |
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| Cymru | Dec 6 2015, 01:48 AM Post #105 |
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It seems Americanisation has succeeded in Britain when cynical, ironic and sarcastic black humour is taken seriously.
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| Stonefish | Dec 6 2015, 01:57 AM Post #106 |
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I see,so if I call someone a nigger ,but then say I was being ironic ( or taking the piss as it's often known ) that's ok...interesting.so basically I can come out with whatever I want,call it irony and jobs a good un. Hmm,funny thing is there is nothing even hinting at irony from Boyle ,it's just good old fashioned insulting offensive shite that he comes out with. But you think it's funny. File under double standard hypocrisy or something like that. link1 link 2 link 3 Yeah he's f--g hilarious. overlong URLs modedited to links Edited by Steve K, Dec 6 2015, 10:58 AM.
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 05:24 AM Post #107 |
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Yep hilarious (mostly). I can't see the actual DS joke so cannot tell, but the other stuff is effing utterly ridiculous. I don't care if people are offended by a joke that is clearly meant to get at KTP; not her son himself. "Katie Price lodged a complaint" And yes nigger is fine when used in an ironic context, recall the Mrs Niggerbaiter sketc feom Monty Python or the "never call a wog a wog" etc song which pokes fun at every ethnicity? File: humour not my strong point. Edited by skwirked, Dec 6 2015, 05:27 AM.
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 05:25 AM Post #108 |
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Terrible.
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| Stonefish | Dec 6 2015, 08:10 AM Post #109 |
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Katie Price would lodge a complaint you stupid prick,she's the mother. Go f--k yourself. File under , only unimaginative wankers stoop so low to use such crude efforts to obtain a laugh at the expense of vulnerable members of our society,and only unimaginative asholes support it. Edited by Stonefish, Dec 6 2015, 08:12 AM.
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 09:08 AM Post #110 |
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Katie Price is fucktard and deserves ridicule. As I said the joke was for KTP, it isn't intentionally mocking the disabled purely for shock/laugh value. Frankly your false moralistic outrage is priceless. Not sure why you think I give your opinion any credence but please keep em coming.
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| Steve K | Dec 6 2015, 11:10 AM Post #111 |
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Maybe No the joke was to make him even more money by humiliating a child (Harvey Price) and disabled children in general. Frankie Boyle does have form for this but the good news is his career is on the wane now even Channel 4 won't touch him. Now he thinks passing off utter bollocks as serious comment in the Guardian will help his career. More than anything else it will hurt the Guardian. |
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| Affa | Dec 6 2015, 11:14 AM Post #112 |
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........ And some pedant would take every word as is literally meant and does not have the ability to recognise irony, sarcasm, or simple analogous phrases. Pedantry can get in the way of good senses and make its practitioners look stupid. |
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 11:15 AM Post #113 |
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Yeah, he makes money out of his jokes, so do loads of other comedians. Do you really think he thinks lowly of the disabled though? He did not make fun of "disabled children in general" did he... If I thought he really did think such, I wouldn't find him funny TBH. Yes he is a cynical bastard and not someone I'd have as a 'mate' but still, the accusations levelled gainst him aren't right. Edited by skwirked, Dec 6 2015, 11:17 AM.
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| Steve K | Dec 6 2015, 11:18 AM Post #114 |
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Perhaps you need to go to the adults section of the library instead to get a dictionary that will tell you what pedantry means. Exposing lies isn't pedantry, it's actually what honest people should do. Why do you support lies? |
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| Steve K | Dec 6 2015, 11:20 AM Post #115 |
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Well perhaps you shouldn't have posted that you too love him http://w11.zetaboards.com/UK_Debate_Mk_2/single/?p=8363440&t=11440765 |
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| Steve K | Dec 6 2015, 11:23 AM Post #116 |
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But the issue is that article is ridden with lies and published as supposed serious comment in what was thought of as a serious newspaper about a topic of very high public concern Can you really say that no one would have taken those supposed facts he included at face value? |
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 11:25 AM Post #117 |
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I didn't say that. Typical! Do you really think that Boyle thinks nastily of the disabled? |
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| Steve K | Dec 6 2015, 11:35 AM Post #118 |
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Well if someone has hijacked your account to post against a "love that Frankie Boyle" post then contact an admin urgently. For now we'll believe you did but now seek to disguise itHe sees them as exploitable money making opportunities by use of gutter humour to appeal to neanderthal thinking. He probably hopes every day to read of more disabled children being born to the famous. |
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| Affa | Dec 6 2015, 11:47 AM Post #119 |
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If they actually did 'suppose' these were facts, were a pedant, they would ...... but who would believe the RAF will be dropping high explosives on the desert from a great height? He made his point sarcastically. Who has ever believed we 'were drowning children on the beaches', but his point is made ......... children will die as a result of this decision. You supposed he was stating 'facts' when in reality he was guiding you to realise what the 'facts' are without stating any himself. Edited by Affa, Dec 6 2015, 11:56 AM.
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 11:48 AM Post #120 |
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Just.. Your post is complete crap. |
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