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| I'm Dreaming of a White Xmas (We Luv U Nige); UKIP brilliance | |
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| Topic Started: Dec 5 2015, 12:56 PM (672 Views) | |
| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 12:56 PM Post #1 |
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http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ukip-van-playing-bing-crosbys-10546137 Nothing wrong with that IMO, should've stuck golliwog dolls on the sides too; absolutely nothing racist about them either, or any of this IMHO. Flinging burning qurans covered in goatshit at brown people who are likely Muslims is fair too IMHO, nothing racist about that as Islam is not technically a race. I have absolutely no idea why UKIP lost the election, completely escapes me. It's those fraudulent postal-Muzzies I think. Edited by skwirked, Dec 7 2015, 09:33 PM.
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| papasmurf | Dec 5 2015, 01:05 PM Post #2 |
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 01:41 PM Post #3 |
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Nothing wrong with dressing up in kkk outfit and burning a cross in someone's backyard IMHO. It's PC gawn faakkin mayyd. |
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| Steve K | Dec 5 2015, 03:12 PM Post #4 |
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We do have a Jokes sub forum you know |
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 03:15 PM Post #5 |
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True, UKIP are a joke. |
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| Steve K | Dec 5 2015, 03:30 PM Post #6 |
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At times certainly, in people like Nuttall always and Nigel 'lost the plot' Farage too often 2015 should have been a good year for them. They'd expelled that embarrassment Janice "Ting Tong" Atkinson, Evans did a good job on that manifesto, in Carswell they had some high profile serious intellect and Farage was a clear natural leader. But Nigel seriously effed up that campaign and worse was shown afterwards to be a U turning manipulating arse. He looks increasingly uneasy and yet increasingly demands that only he and Nutter Nuttall are to be seen in the media. And worse? that Sturgeon stole the show as being the media savvy leader. They need a real serious rethink. |
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 03:41 PM Post #7 |
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That seems like a fair analysis. That said, they did do well in the gen election. Who knows, if they clean up their act (big if) they may just return some MPs. |
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| Stonefish | Dec 5 2015, 09:32 PM Post #8 |
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Ah, a ukip hater lol. Great party ,tells it as it is and proven right time and time again. Seems the Cons have to resort to nicking all their lines to win a vote now We ( ukip ) will not get more MP's until we have democracy in this country,where your vote actually counts. ( in which case we'd have had 50 odd more mayb ) I won't bother rminding you just how many voted we won Nor will I remind you that we increased our vote in Oldham. No,the golliwog wasn't racist until some stupid left wing assholes decided it was. And of course now you dare fart unless the racist finger is waved in your face by an endless supply of bigoted hypocritical cretins.Hey ho. |
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 09:39 PM Post #9 |
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I don't hate misguided UKIP voters or even Mr Forage himself, I am sure you could go for a drink with him or whatever. But there are some extremely nasty people in UKIP and this unnecessary, idiotic action in Oldham just caused even more harm to them didn't it? As I said: yes UKIP could return MPs IF it cleaned itself up. There is a salient case to be made against the EU, these guys seem to be better at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Not much in the way of a real argument. Not that there is one, you cannot defend this stupid action and it deserves ridicule.
Edited by skwirked, Dec 5 2015, 09:42 PM.
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| Deleted User | Dec 5 2015, 09:56 PM Post #10 |
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Ah UKIP. A right wing racist, neo liberalist bunch of misfits lead by an avuncular con man . |
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 10:09 PM Post #11 |
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Maybe but there is a grain of truth in the 'you could have a pint with him' image. They are not MUCH worse IMO than the three main parties usually (if we are talking about Brownite/Blairite NL - obviously Corbyn's Labour is far far better than any of these cretins). But as you say the right wing racism in UKIP is a huge turn off, if they shed some of that then maybe they'll get to lib dem-level 'notoriety'. Edited by skwirked, Dec 5 2015, 10:10 PM.
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 10:24 PM Post #12 |
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Also to add to my edited post (but best to keep seperate): That leave.eu site was a total disaster IMHO. Really failed to make a killer blow case for brexit.. |
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| Tigger | Dec 5 2015, 10:43 PM Post #13 |
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Don't forget me, I hate UKIP as well! Lets face facts they are a grey haired protest party who'd like nothing better than to see the 1950's back, obviously not the sixties because people started to enjoy themselves in non approved ways, not the seventies either because working people started forgetting to be servile, (most of em) eighties? A bit of a hard one admittedly, we went a bit dear leader and fascist back then but pretended it the way forward, nineties? Nah to much drug taking and weird music, noughties? Fark that multi-culti took root, so fifties it is! And as for Farage?He can't even win a seat in an area populated by elderly racist Londoners! Shame there isn't an emoticon for looser, I'd use it, you know that L shaped finger thing on the forehead, my youngest does to when I get angry with the TV remote. |
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| Rich | Dec 5 2015, 10:49 PM Post #14 |
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It seems that there are some very nasty people in the Labour party too, on tonights news I learn that two Labour MP's have contacted the police because of numerous death threats they have received following the vote to extend air missions into Syria. I do not recall anyone from the ranks of UKIP membership doing anything like that, do you? And I would remind all and sundry that had it not been for UKIP we would not even be talking about an in/out referendum, let alone taking part in one. Edited by Rich, Dec 5 2015, 10:50 PM.
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 10:59 PM Post #15 |
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Agreed about Labour, it IS. unacceptable and Corbyn + McDonnell have committed to a zero-tolerance policy wrt to such abuse. But sigh, your post is just wrong re UKIP impropriety. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/25/police-investigate-ukip-protest-threat-nigel-farage-pub http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-england-32595003 There are many more outrageous stories if you care to look. ALL of it is unacceptable and I wish ALL politics were to be as neat, orderly and fair as Corbyn's attempts to clean up PMQs. |
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| Tigger | Dec 5 2015, 11:08 PM Post #16 |
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Yeh, but, they deserve to be abused by Kippers, that's just a bunch of lentil eating lezzy man hating Islamist sympathisers paying the EU £55m a day. And I bet not a single one of them has ever been to dog track or got pissed on Bishops Finger and beaten the missus up. |
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 11:12 PM Post #17 |
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And I bet they don' even nek Proper English Beer, fakkin cahnts |
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| Deleted User | Dec 5 2015, 11:18 PM Post #18 |
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Or even pissed on a bishops finger.Surely everyone has beaten the missus up.
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| Stonefish | Dec 5 2015, 11:28 PM Post #19 |
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Yes,you do hate them. And there aren't some extremely nasty people in the other parties ??!! ffs. ukip is constantly on the ball ,unfortunately because of our views on immigration we do attract a certain type of asshole ,who are not welcome.But as I said there are many,many assholes in the other parties. And as I said UKIP will not get any more MP'S until we get proper democracy in this country,ie proportional representation. NTW what action are you on about exactly?? |
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| Stonefish | Dec 5 2015, 11:30 PM Post #20 |
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you are irrelevant. |
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| Stonefish | Dec 5 2015, 11:32 PM Post #21 |
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Could you provide some examples of official right wing racism please. |
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 11:35 PM Post #22 |
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(shrug) No I don't but ok. Yes there are loads of aholes in other parties and yes I am sure there are fine UKIPpers. PR would be good for the UK. And I refer to the action in the OP, driving around Oldham being a provocative arsehole. |
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| Steve K | Dec 5 2015, 11:35 PM Post #23 |
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Janice Ting Tong Atkinson for a start UKIP took no action against her for that thereby endorsing it. Then she was caught asking for false receipts |
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| skwirked | Dec 5 2015, 11:39 PM Post #24 |
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...really? Even after all the official apologies, repudiations, scandals, corrections, sackings etc..really? Are you really asking me this? |
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| Tigger | Dec 5 2015, 11:47 PM Post #25 |
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Ah denial mode, nice try! Try these for size, Lenny Henry should move to a black country. Some folks are intended by nature to be slaves. Muslim women, hang them all first and ask questions later. Clearly the last statement also falls down on basic logic as well as being racist |
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| Tigger | Dec 5 2015, 11:50 PM Post #26 |
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Not trying to be funny or anythin' like but some people think being racist is being truthful. It also reveals a stunning lack of self awareness! |
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| Stonefish | Dec 6 2015, 12:34 AM Post #27 |
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Oh right ,you mean driving around playing xmas songs,one of which was white xmas so some complete f--g wankers decided it was racist.Typical f--g stupid assholes. |
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| Stonefish | Dec 6 2015, 12:35 AM Post #28 |
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Absolutely ,please provide evidence of UKIP sanctioned racism from the party. If you can great,i'll report it to the party myself. |
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| Stonefish | Dec 6 2015, 12:37 AM Post #29 |
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I see ,these are comments sanctioned by UKIP are they,or comments of individuals? Well I guess if you go down that route we may as well mention the paedophelia running rife amongst Labour then. |
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| Stonefish | Dec 6 2015, 12:41 AM Post #30 |
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Yes,and some people feel they should be free to discuss ethnic parts of our community for example in both a positive and negative manner as needed because were all gwon ups and know the small minded bigots shouldn't be able to stifle debate and free speech ,or hide any truths for the sake of political correctness. I suppose we could just pass laws banning any reference to ethnicity full stop,that would do it I guess. |
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| Rich | Dec 6 2015, 01:04 AM Post #31 |
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My Friend, you must look to 13 years of Labour Rule and a further 5 years of semi Libdem Rule to find your answer of why you dare not bring up the question of ethnicity, race, immigration, overrpopulation and those that bought that about are not in a position to deal with those issues so continue to shout from the sidelines, I feel that PC is now so embedded that it will not be long before "thought police" are used. When I commemorate the 11/november every year and watch the diminishing numbers of veterans attending I wonder what they make of it all now and ask themselves was it all worth it. |
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| scorpio | Dec 6 2015, 02:04 AM Post #32 |
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There is nothing wrong, with the playing of Christmas/Christian songs, at this time of year as we get near to Christmas. But obviously when the songs are played from a vehicle, representing a political party in an area that has many non Christians, one wonders what message the political party (UKIP) is trying to send. UKIP are not mature enough, to realise that any successful political party, with goals to be the government, or part of the government, must represent people across the complete spectrum of society, culture, and racial makeup. Parties that have a narrow philosophy, and mind set, will always be protest parties, with emphasis on the negative, rather than the positive. They therefore will always be opposition parties. |
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| Stonefish | Dec 6 2015, 04:22 AM Post #33 |
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I think when you are in the UK ,it doesnt matter where you are ,you should be able to play xmas songs at the appropriate time of year without receiving criticism. UKIP does indeed represent the people and has support from many ethnic minorities ,and I would uggest it is a certain element in opposition who display their lack of maturity,time and time again. UKIP may well be an opposition party,but their opposition fortunately has an affect ,and as an example we have a referendum next year which I don't doubt would not be happening if it were not for the efforts of UKIP. So people should be gratefull for their presence and their part in the enrichening of the democratic process. |
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| skwirked | Dec 6 2015, 05:32 AM Post #34 |
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I said "right-wing racism in UKIP" not the words you use to try and put words in my mouth. Interestingly, you've dug yourself a bit of a hole here because Steve offered you some examples for which UKIP never really apologised. Me I was willing to say UKIP prob do reject such but nope - you had to push it didn't you. Well, Steve's splatted an egg on your face. "Oh right ,you mean driving around playing xmas songs,one of which was white xmas so some complete f--g wankers decided it was racist.Typical f--g stupid assholes." Don't be ridiculous, do you really think their intentions were benign and that it wàsn't a deliberate ploy to get people all riled up? It was pathetic and has backfired, as usual. Edited by skwirked, Dec 6 2015, 05:35 AM.
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| papasmurf | Dec 6 2015, 08:52 AM Post #35 |
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| Oddball | Dec 6 2015, 09:12 AM Post #36 |
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Cummon guys, what's with all the political 'reflections' surrounding Bing's 'White Christmas'. All he was innocently referring to was the days of yore when there used to be less global warming and a tad more winter snow. ps. I fondly remember one Christmas Eve [1962 or 1963] coming out of the Odeon Cinema, Broadmead, Bristol, as the first winter snow started to descend; by Christmas morning it had laid several inches thick. Thankfully, we didn't have to go out that day [having gone to Midnight Mass], it was great looking out on the 'whiteness' from the warmth of the living room - with its well stoked fire. Yes, there were far fewer non-honkies about, and those that there were tended to stay more ring fenced in ghettos. In Bristol at the time it was St. Paul's and Eastville. Edited by Oddball, Dec 6 2015, 09:19 AM.
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| Stonefish | Dec 6 2015, 09:21 AM Post #37 |
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Er but you DO think its okay to poke fun at the disabled,you have made that perfectly clear. |
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| Tigger | Dec 6 2015, 06:37 PM Post #38 |
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So you asked for some evidence and I supplied it, it was clearly not to your taste was it? As you are doubtless aware the comments WERE made by UKIP candidates and officials, and no matter how you spin it it looks pretty bad given the comments were designed to appeal to the typical knuckle dragging UKIPer, it's just a shame the other 95% of the population don't quite see it that way. |
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| Stonefish | Dec 8 2015, 05:58 AM Post #39 |
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Christ ...I asked for evidence ,you produce three lines with no links at all.How about these ones made by Labour candidates... I hate muslims ,I hate muslims,i hate muslims. Send all black people back to Africa All foreigners must leave the UK Now then ,I do recognise the first line you provided ,so what ,the individual was dealt with,and yes if I could be arsed I could provide equally distastefull comment from any other party . Of course 95% of the population don't see it that way,including 95% of UKIP supporters,so that's 95% of your claims shown to be complete tosh . |
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| Happy Hornet | Dec 8 2015, 06:37 AM Post #40 |
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Say what you like about FPTP but we have no way of knowing how people would have voted if we had PR it didn't stop the SNP getting 50 odd seats. I think the number of votes UKIP got versus the number of seats shows that UKIP's support is too thinly spread. It's people like me, the floating voters that UKIP need to win over if they ever want to be a real force in British politics but I've never once had a Kipper even attempt to engage in a discussion with me and ask what they would need to do to secure my support. Hence they are where they are. |
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Not that there is one, you cannot defend this stupid action and it deserves ridicule.

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