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So,who DID kill JFK ?
Topic Started: Apr 5 2016, 06:30 PM (740 Views)
Stonefish
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It's an oldie,but a goldie ,the biggest whodunnit in living and probably non living memory as well.

I looked at this fairly intensively some time ago,as I'm sure many of us have. I couldn't reach a deafinite conclusion and imo the perfect assassination as a result.There has never been a definitive result.

I certainly suspect FBI involvement ,I don't believe Lee Harvey was the only shooter,apart from that all bets are off.
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Malum Unus
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Oh not that 'too many people would have to know' 'logic' which itself falls down to the old 'The left hand not knowing what the right is doing' functions in many major US/UK government organizations AKA compartmentalization... The whole point in doing something like that is to fool the very people who 'should' be in the know.

America (and indeed many countries, including the UK) are rife with secret organizations whose actions you know nothing about, and never will.

I'm not saying that LHO didn't shoot JFK, I'm just saying that he didn't kill him.

Surely it's not too difficult to have someone kill JFK, and then someone to kill his killer... If the killer of JFK and his/her killer were under the direct orders from someone at the top of the CIA/FBI/ETC then the killers, killer wouldn't actually know that they'd assassinated anyone important and very few people would be 'in the know', in fact, just one person would be in the know and that is the one who gave the orders, and if you're seriously telling me there isn't at least one person in the US dedicated to secrets enough to keep one like this, you're plain nuts.
Edited by Malum Unus, Apr 17 2016, 07:47 PM.
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Given the killing of LHO I think the barometer swings towards the Mafia.
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Steve K
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Two words for those that just love conspiracy theories without any real evidence because they can't be proved wrong to their standards

Andrew Wakefield

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Steve K
Apr 18 2016, 08:35 AM
Two words for those that just love conspiracy theories without any real evidence because they can't be proved wrong to their standards

Andrew Wakefield



I'll see that Andrew Wakefield and raise you a Pandemrix: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/sep/19/swine-flu-vaccine-narcolepsy-uk

Of course, that the swine flu vaccine could have dangerous side effects, was also thought to be just conspiracy theory... Until it was proven right.



As to JFK, I think it's pretty clear to anyone who understands anything about firearms that the third killshot was from a different calibre weapon with a hollow point bullet... Neither of which were possessed by LHO.

So who fired it?
Edited by Malum Unus, Apr 18 2016, 09:22 AM.
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Well it would seem clear to anyone with a little knowledge about firearms
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Apr 18 2016, 09:30 AM
Well it would seem clear to anyone with a little knowledge about firearms


The bullet entered the rear left side of JFKs head and exited the front right side nearly destroying it in the process (earwitnesses also describe hearing a different sound to the first two shots).

Unless that was the mother of all ricochets, LHO was at completely the wrong angle.

EDIT - BTW I am aware the the round nosed Carcano bullets tend to tumble, yet oddly the first two didn't... From the Zapruder film it looks like JFK didn't even realise that he'd been shot by the first bullet.



I doubt we'll ever really know who did it or exactly what happened, or who killed Jill Dando, was Dr. David Kelly's death 'really' a suicide, ETC.
Edited by Malum Unus, Apr 18 2016, 10:38 AM.
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Steve K
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I find this far more persuasive

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/head.htm
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Apr 17 2016, 05:36 PM
If Lee Harvey Oswald didn't shoot JFK my Arse is a Fire Engine. Conspiracy theories usually fall down on Too Many People would have to know logic. You couldn't get a better example of this fundamental truth than this bloody episode in our history. If you think the FBI did for him then you're nuts.
But, if LHO did kill JFK then LHO would have needed "laws of physics defying bullets".

Which is more likely?

LHO has bullets that defy physics but no trace of them is ever found

or

More than just LHO was directly involved in the killing of JFK


If I were you I'd grease that fireman's pole up, as there's going to be heavy traffic in your arse next time someone calls 999.


All The Best
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Steve K
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Apr 18 2016, 02:31 PM
Jus
Apr 17 2016, 05:36 PM
If Lee Harvey Oswald didn't shoot JFK my Arse is a Fire Engine. Conspiracy theories usually fall down on Too Many People would have to know logic. You couldn't get a better example of this fundamental truth than this bloody episode in our history. If you think the FBI did for him then you're nuts.
But, if LHO did kill JFK then LHO would have needed "laws of physics defying bullets".

Which is more likely?

LHO has bullets that defy physics but no trace of them is ever found

or

More than just LHO was directly involved in the killing of JFK


If I were you I'd grease that fireman's pole up, as there's going to be heavy traffic in your arse next time someone calls 999.


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Not true

The defying the laws of physics theory was based on a misconstrued layout of the car. The rear seat was significantly higher than the seat Connolly was in which makes the trajectory a straight line and it wasn't the back of his head that was blown off
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Apr 18 2016, 02:02 PM
I find this far more persuasive

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/head.htm


Hmm, curious... The Zapruder film shows a lower wound and damage than the X-rays show, in the film the top of JFK's head is less damaged than in the X-rays.

Granted it's difficult to be certain due to the low quality of the film.

Interesting information though, thanks!!
Edited by Malum Unus, Apr 18 2016, 04:10 PM.
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