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Trump says US may abandon automatic protections for Nato countries
Topic Started: Jul 21 2016, 11:21 AM (491 Views)
Cymru
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36852805

Well he would get my vote.

It's about time that NATO members stopped leeching off the United States.
Edited by Cymru, Jul 21 2016, 11:23 AM.
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Rich
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Steve K
Jul 24 2016, 09:58 PM
gansao
Jul 24 2016, 07:06 PM
RoofGardener
Jul 24 2016, 06:46 PM
I don't buy that Trump IS an "isolationist".... I would argue that he is just "normalising" the relationships that the USA has with other nations. And that includes the possibility of closing bases and withdrawing troops.


I would not say that he is isolationist on the NATO point alone.
He says that he will bring back jobs to the US. He says that the US will manufacture the things that are made outside.
The only way that the US can increase domestic manufacturing is to block imports.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/us-china-trade-reform

He lambasts free trade treaties like NAFTA

http://time.com/4051371/donald-trump-nafta/
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-lays-out-protectionist-views-in-trade-speech-1467145538

He also says that he likes Putin and seems to praise string men like Erdogan.
https://www.rt.com/usa/352464-trump-erdogan-turkey-nato/

Also if he effectively abandons NATO ( in its present form) and closes bases there wll be power vacuum that will immediately be filled with US rivals.
I say that adds up to an isolationist policy
And then there's that wall he plans
Ah, but he did say that he would make the Mexicans build the wall, so it could be argued that he is at least creating jobs for the immigrants. :P ;D
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Curious Cdn
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gansao
Jul 24 2016, 09:17 PM
Curious Cdn
Jul 24 2016, 09:03 PM
gansao
Jul 24 2016, 08:10 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepQuestion: by what "right" does the USA have large military bases outside of its own borders ? Why is that deemed "normal" ?
Actually, Ginzou. You weren't even on when that started and you blundered your way into the middle of it, chip on your shoulder (as usual), ready to condescend (as usual).

You sound like a petulent five year old, by the way : "You're not answering ME!! ME!!! ME! ME!

It was never about you. Read it all again, for gawd sake or put to bed. No doubt, the Mod will do it for us.


If you answer a post then your post should address the post you answered.
You seem to struggle with the concept of debate old chap.
As for mods..you are using a series of fallacies and ad homs as well as a fair amount of petulance ( as well as deliberately misspelling my name.)
Not only that but I did offer you the choice of carrying on your silly posts in the dungeon, which you seem to not want to do.
You are making it difficult for me to be civil .
You seem to struggle with basic civility. You never have been civil, up to now. I must assume that it is the real "you" and move on.
Edited by Curious Cdn, Jul 24 2016, 11:19 PM.
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Cymru
Jul 24 2016, 10:48 AM
Donald Trump: EU was formed 'to beat the US at making money'

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/24/donald-trump-eu-was-formed-to-beat-the-us-at-making-money

Trump has defended his controversial NATO remarks and has extended the criticism to include the EU.
It's true. The Euro is the answer to the economic weapon the dollar is.
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