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| Trump officials might be expecting EU to fall apart this year, US envoy says | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 14 2017, 02:14 AM (846 Views) | |
| Cymru | Jan 14 2017, 02:14 AM Post #1 |
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/trump-officials-might-be-expecting-eu-to-fall-apart-this-year-us-envoy-says/2017/01/13/26b2d47c-d748-11e6-a0e6-d502d6751bc8_story.html?utm_term=.9fff07f0e123 Interestingly Le Pen paid a visit to Trump Tower recently. Frexit on the cards? Edited by Cymru, Jan 14 2017, 02:14 AM.
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| Malum Unus | Jan 19 2017, 10:29 PM Post #41 |
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Yes but that's not even its worst problem, the biggest problem with the EU is it takes years to act to any serious threat, to the point that by the time it has acted, it's already too late and the damage has been done. It's a bureaucratic behemoth, large, powerful, but slow moving and even slower to react to danger. |
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| The Buccaneer | Jan 20 2017, 12:04 PM Post #42 |
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It is still only mere speculation though, for simpletons and others n'est ce pas ? |
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| The Buccaneer | Jan 20 2017, 12:05 PM Post #43 |
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Germany has been breaking EU rules about their huge trading surplus for years, but who will sanction them, despite this ? |
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| The Buccaneer | Jan 20 2017, 12:07 PM Post #44 |
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Just how accurate has any IMF forecast been over the past 30 years ? I rest the case for ignoring this one as well. |
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| Affa | Jan 20 2017, 02:10 PM Post #45 |
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George Osborne held little confidence in what the IMF had to say about UK prospects - when they disagreed with his (and OBR) predictions. He was however very quick to say the IMF gave the most reliable analysis when Gordon Brown was PM. |
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| Steve K | Jan 21 2017, 12:15 AM Post #46 |
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Well that was my new fact of the day - thanks, was not aware of the 6% rule or the potential fine of 0.1% of GDP that they've never been required to pay More here for any others that weren't aware: https://www.euractiv.com/section/euro-finance/news/germany-under-eu-scrutiny-for-current-account-surplus/ |
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| Tigger | Jan 21 2017, 12:21 AM Post #47 |
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George got a new job today! Bide time and say I told you so? |
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| Affa | Jan 21 2017, 06:10 PM Post #48 |
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Guardian George has got a pt job working for Investment Bankers, how unsurprising. Is is another case of 'not what you know, but who you know'? Edited by Affa, Jan 21 2017, 06:12 PM.
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| Ewill | Jan 21 2017, 06:21 PM Post #49 |
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Well at least he was a CofE , unlike Blair He is a senior advisor at investment bank JP Morgan (salary estimates range between £500,000 and £2.5m) and advises the Swiss insurance firm Zurich Financial Services on climate change issues for a reputed £1m a year, not to mention his consulting role with luxury goods firm LVMH. And he was said to have been paid an estimated £1m for writing a report for the government of Kuwait on the future of the oil-rich state. Indeed, such is the demand for his advisory services that he has set up a commercial consultancy firm, Tony Blair Associates, which has banked at least £2m advising foreign countries and businesses. ........................... Blair has been active on the after-dinner speech circuit. Signed to the Washington Speakers Bureau for £500,000.............. ................ – and has reportedly earned over £5m for his speaking engagements. Last year he earned almost £400,000 for two half-hour speeches in the Philippines. ............, Blair receives £84,000 of taxpayers' money to run a private office, and he is also entitled to draw a pension of £63,468. Read more: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/article-1693540/How-rich-is-Tony-Blair.html#ixzz4WQBsF2p6 |
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| Affa | Jan 21 2017, 06:23 PM Post #50 |
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Is he still an MP? |
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| Rich | Jan 21 2017, 06:39 PM Post #51 |
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Yes, most interesting, even though Germany has "more than halved " it's surplus it is still under scrutiny, what must have gone before is anyone's guess. I like the bit where it state's "the new EU ruling" which came into force in 2011, err, excuse me, but that was 6 years ago. No wonder the dinosaur can never complete a trade deal in decent time, by the time it is completed probably 2 heads of state have changed and so have priorities. Bring on the Brexit and PDQ. ps, And Brexit detractors complain that the UK does not have any qualified negotiators......please, my sides are aching through laughing.
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| Tigger | Jan 21 2017, 06:40 PM Post #52 |
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You know what? I don't feel half as bad now that you've pointed out Blair made far more, perhaps socialists make better lackies for the financial parasite sector? And did I detect a hint of sour grapes? |
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| Rich | Jan 21 2017, 06:45 PM Post #53 |
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More like a case of what you do NOT know, the bigger the failure then the more successful you seem to be in the private sector. I suppose there must be some logic in it. |
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| Tigger | Jan 21 2017, 06:45 PM Post #54 |
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Your lack of knowledge needs a timely update! Private Eye reported that the government approached ACAS in the hope of luring away some negotiators, no luck I'm afraid, and no help from white Commonwealth countries either, to busy smoozing around the EU looking for deals of their own! Sides still aching Rich?
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| Tigger | Jan 21 2017, 06:49 PM Post #55 |
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Absolutely! Farage will soon be very rich as well, he's moving to the US to become a Fox News pundit, no more South coast rallies for you and his other loyal fans! And he never even became a UK MP!
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| BmOnline | Jan 22 2017, 01:05 PM Post #56 |
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Well, well gentlemen- in proper housings - Eu will for sure fall like a card house- and the russian prisioner Angela Merkel must return back to jail.Now, the gang- they tried to kill both- the new president and his visepresident M Pence- but it was discovered and quickly brougth behind bars. And quess what- the left side of norwegian parlament went very seek after hearing that Turbo Trump- wanted to vanish all muslim idiots from the eath surface. Well, at least we got some real facts to believe in. Turbo Trump is certanly not spare the confetti BmOnline ps: The deadth squad of Kremlin is now behind bars Now you shud lift your head and lissen carefully- as Renees Cafee just said. |
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 01:07 PM Post #57 |
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^ Hypothermia?
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| papasmurf | Jan 22 2017, 01:08 PM Post #58 |
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He already is. |
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 01:23 PM Post #59 |
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A few weeks ago he was complaining that the £100k+ he earns a year as an MEP had left him poor compared to his many friends who work in the City, perhaps he should have spent less time in the pub smoking and drinking with idiots? |
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| papasmurf | Jan 22 2017, 01:24 PM Post #60 |
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His friends are paid too much. |
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| Affa | Jan 22 2017, 01:25 PM Post #61 |
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You got me, there, BM. |
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| Opinionater | Jan 25 2017, 04:28 PM Post #62 |
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I think the future of the EU may well be in the balance. One very major factor is the French election, if Le Pen wins its game over for the EU. If she looses by a small percentage of the vote there may still be major problems for the EU. If she looses by a large percentage, as is predicted in the second round then the EU could hang on for another year or two. No matter what unless the EU reforms back into what it origalaly was (a common market) and drops its objective of being a political union and a European state I can't see it surviving in the long term. Just my opinion, for what it's worth. |
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| LZ54 | Jan 25 2017, 11:07 PM Post #63 |
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Exactly my thoughts. Edited by LZ54, Jan 25 2017, 11:08 PM.
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| Steve K | Jan 25 2017, 11:14 PM Post #64 |
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Awkward then that that "its objective of being a political union and a European state " is a
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| LZ54 | Jan 25 2017, 11:35 PM Post #65 |
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Fixed it for you. modedited back to original wording by Opinionater Edited by Steve K, Jan 25 2017, 11:45 PM.
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| Steve K | Jan 25 2017, 11:44 PM Post #66 |
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see rule 10 |
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| Curious Cdn | Jan 26 2017, 12:01 AM Post #67 |
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What fun! The United States of America and the European Union can watch each other fall apart, this year! |
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| Tigger | Jan 26 2017, 12:08 AM Post #68 |
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I'm looking forward to Trump trying to boss around China, this will be very interesting! |
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| LZ54 | Jan 26 2017, 09:48 PM Post #69 |
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Harsh. No malice intended, just pointing out a well known fact. |
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| LZ54 | Jan 26 2017, 09:50 PM Post #70 |
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That's why China made an announcement yesterday that they are rolling out more nuke in the country. |
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| Steve K | Jan 26 2017, 09:58 PM Post #71 |
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Nah, if I wanted to be harsh I'd have got the other mod toolkit out. Editing others words when you quote them is funny on less serious forums but in serious debate is a slippery slope and can get very provocative. Members must not change the words of others when quoting them. Removing text in way that is ideally clear but does not alter meaning is OKPS that symbol is the 'don't argue this anymore in Main Forum' symbol. PM or Dungeon is OK |
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| Tigger | Jan 26 2017, 10:17 PM Post #72 |
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Didn't know that, but they've been hinting at trade measures of their own. |
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- Eu will for sure fall like a card house- and the russian prisioner Angela Merkel must return back to jail.
Now you shud lift your head and lissen carefully- as Renees Cafee just said.
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Members must not change the words of others when quoting them. Removing text in way that is ideally clear but does not alter meaning is OK
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