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Bill to de-fund the UN ?; over UNSC 2334
Topic Started: Jan 15 2017, 09:46 AM (249 Views)
RoofGardener
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A couple of Republican Senators have introduced an interesting bill to congress.

https://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=2962

It calls for the cancellation of all finance to the UN unless the Israeli settlers resolution is withdrawn (not even sure HOW that happens ? ).

I can't imagine for one minute that it would pass, and even if it DID I can't imagine even DT signing it off, but it might serve as an interesting bellweather of the new Congress.
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Steve K
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Yes interesting and it shows that in fact compared to Cruz, Trump was the least worst option of the last two in the Republican race
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RoofGardener
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Scary thought !
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RoofGardener
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Hmm... it appears that more UN-related stuff has emerged. Trumps has presented draft executive orders incorporating the idea of ceasing to fund any UN department that breaches certain criteria.

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...The first of the two draft orders, titled “Auditing and Reducing U.S. Funding of International Organizations” and obtained by The New York Times, calls for terminating funding for any United Nations agency or other international body that meets any one of several criteria.

Those criteria include organizations that give full membership to the Palestinian Authority or Palestine Liberation Organization, or support programs that fund abortion or any activity that circumvents sanctions against Iran or North Korea. The draft order also calls for terminating funding for any organization that “is controlled or substantially influenced by any state that sponsors terrorism” or is blamed for the persecution of marginalized groups or any other systematic violation of human rights...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/united-nations-trump-administration.html?_r=2

Even more interesting is the proposal to cut development aid to any country that "... oppose important United States policies.."

We've seen something of the latter policy already; In the 1990's Yemen voted against a US-sponsored resolution authorising military action against Iraq. The next day, the USA cut its annual $70 million in aid !
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I think the UN is a spineless not fit for purpose corrupt organization,that needs to be dismantled from the bottom up and something else replace it.Given that the U.S.A basically fund it and it does absolutely SFA,he has a point.
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I think the UN is worse than "spineless" I think it has sold almost all its soul to peacemakers, making knee jerk reactions, at the expense of acknowledging the full picture.
IMO it doesn't have the teeth or the desire to take military action in the different areas where action needs to be taken.
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johnofgwent
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I fail to see the point of it.

It was set up, if I understand correctly, to try to avoid widespread military conflict.

Yet its core members are those who do most of that, and usually against the wishes of swathes of the population of the country in question...


Edit. So, I've spent a while exploiting the lunchtime pubs WiFi reading through the details in the opening post, and once again it comes down little more than yanks having no respect for the institutions they set up to legitimise hanging non yanks they wanted hanged when those institutions start looking for yank and pal-of-yank necks to stretch.

I'll give Cruz's bill the same contempt I give to presidents who refuse to recognise the legality of united kingdom coroners courts.

Edited by johnofgwent, Sep 5 2017, 11:52 AM.
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C-too
Sep 5 2017, 11:09 AM
I think the UN is worse than "spineless" I think it has sold almost all its soul to peacemakers, making knee jerk reactions, at the expense of acknowledging the full picture.
Indeed.

Far too often it panders to the warmongering state of Israel and their Zionist supporters in the US.


All The Best
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Sep 5 2017, 11:34 AM
C-too
Sep 5 2017, 11:09 AM
I think the UN is worse than "spineless" I think it has sold almost all its soul to peacemakers, making knee jerk reactions, at the expense of acknowledging the full picture.
Indeed.

Far too often it panders to the warmongering state of Israel and their Zionist supporters in the US.


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You mean the UN ignores fourteen hundred years of near serfdom as in the state of Dhimmitude of the Jews under Arab / Muslim domination ? Amongst other things. I suspect the UN is too quick to condemn Israel without paying any attention to the history of the area.

I don't condone everything the Jews of Israel do, even when it is partially defensive, where some people seem to condone everything done against the Jews for the last 1400 years. How sad is that ?


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Edited by C-too, Sep 7 2017, 07:50 AM.
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Steve K
Jan 15 2017, 10:18 AM
Yes interesting and it shows that in fact compared to Cruz, Trump was the least worst option of the last two in the Republican race


Thats what Noam Chomsky said from the start of the last Presidential campaign. /8/
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