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Trump withdraws from Trans-Pacific Partnership amid flurry of orders
Topic Started: Jan 23 2017, 06:44 PM (267 Views)
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/23/donald-trump-first-orders-trans-pacific-partnership-tpp

Yes! Yes! Yes!

Next stop NAFTA.
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Steve K
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Jan 23 2017, 06:44 PM
Why celebrate a great day for China as they're the ones who gain out of this idiot flounce and a hidden "Make China Great Again" policy?

Didn't he get elected promising to take China down a peg or two? Oh yes he was lying then too

BTW the US$ fell today as the real smart people made their judgement on this


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Jan 23 2017, 06:44 PM
:rubchin:

You are not a fan of America but instead worship all things Communist, so you must be aware that China will simply move in and hoover up trade deals? Plus of course China has already warned the US that if it imposes sanctions on it the Chinese people will simply boycott all US business interests in China?
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Jan 23 2017, 08:56 PM
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Jan 23 2017, 06:44 PM
:rubchin:

You are not a fan of America but instead worship all things Communist, so you must be aware that China will simply move in and hoover up trade deals? Plus of course China has already warned the US that if it imposes sanctions on it the Chinese people will simply boycott all US business interests in China?
Exactly

China was only excluded from TPP because Obama said you can have them or us. Now Oz, Japan etc will likely let China back in which will weaken Trump's position to take on China

Quite why the OP is celebrating an own goal by his hero is really very puzzling
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Steve K
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Trump's move - the truth
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Jan 23 2017, 09:05 PM


Quite why the OP is celebrating an own goal by his hero is really very puzzling
I suspect he wants to see the free World dismantled and Russia and China in control, sorry that should have read China in control as Russia is a dirt poor Mafia state run on the whims of one man.
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Jan 23 2017, 09:10 PM
Steve K
Jan 23 2017, 09:05 PM


Quite why the OP is celebrating an own goal by his hero is really very puzzling
I suspect he wants to see the free World dismantled and Russia and China in control, sorry that should have read China in control as Russia is a dirt poor Mafia state run on the whims of one man.

Now, the Chinese take over the leadership of the 40% of the World's economy around the Pacific Rim. The Chinese were going to become dominant, eventually but I'm sure that they can hardly believe their luck to have regional hegemony just handed to them after 75 years of American dominance.
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from Hard Brexit thread - but best answered here imho
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Jan 24 2017, 07:17 AM
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Jan 23 2017, 07:46 PM
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Jan 23 2017, 05:11 PM
Well well well.... it appears that Awwwstrylia and New Zealand might be tempted to move closer into partnership with the UK after all.

They have just lost the major trading relationship with the USA that they where hoping for.

The Donald has just cancelled ratification of the Trans Pacific Trade Partnership.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38721056
Nope

Was irrelevant to Oz-USA trade as there's been an FTA in place there for over a decade. Trump's action will actually help Oz trade in Asia
Strewth, don't come the raw prawn with me, BruceK. If everything is bonza with their USA FTA, then why did Gods Own Country want to join the TPP in the first place ? Presumably they saw some advantage in it ?

Still, no worries. She'll be OK ! ;D


Because TPP gives Oz, NZ and Canada better access to the Far East market. Hence today's news that Oz and NZ are looking at pursuing TPP minus one

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38725807

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Jan 24 2017, 10:37 AM
from Hard Brexit thread - but best answered here imho
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Jan 24 2017, 07:17 AM
Steve K
Jan 23 2017, 07:46 PM
Strewth, don't come the raw prawn with me, BruceK. If everything is bonza with their USA FTA, then why did Gods Own Country want to join the TPP in the first place ? Presumably they saw some advantage in it ?

Still, no worries. She'll be OK ! ;D


Because TPP gives Oz, NZ and Canada better access to the Far East market. Hence today's news that Oz and NZ are looking at pursuing TPP minus one

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38725807

Seem's like Trump is hoovering up all the markets that we were hoping to do business with??
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Jan 24 2017, 04:00 PM
Seem's like Trump is hoovering up all the markets that we were hoping to do business with??
I don't think so myself.

No one seems to have noticed what is going on here, Trump does not want to deal with trade blocks as this limits what the US can screw out of the other side, hence the animosity towards China and the EU who are more than capable of slugging it out with the US, what Trump has specifically said is that he wants bi-lateral trade deals, this gives the US the upper hand in every situation as the opposite number will always be the junior party.

Oh, and we seem to be first in line.
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