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| Dutch General Election | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 5 2017, 12:47 PM (808 Views) | |
| Opinionater | Feb 5 2017, 12:47 PM Post #1 |
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Could this produce a shock result with yet another right wing anti EU party winning? Opinion polling supports this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Dutch_general_election,_2017 |
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| Tigger | Feb 5 2017, 01:15 PM Post #2 |
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Most on this forum only know two sorts of Dutch people,assorted footballers and that Wilders bloke. Should make for "interesting" debate. |
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| Jessamy Bride | Feb 5 2017, 01:21 PM Post #3 |
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Looks like, from your graph..... there is support for the right wing party......and they have an election in March. The Dutch are not happy |
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| johnofgwent | Feb 5 2017, 02:48 PM Post #4 |
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It .. It is GREEN !!
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They have footballers in holland ? So who is "that wilders bloke" up against ? |
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| Rich | Feb 5 2017, 02:52 PM Post #5 |
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Max Bygraves thought that the dutch were good because he offered to give the love of his life.....Tulips from Amsterdam....therefore I declare openly that the dutch must be ok.....Max said so.
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| Tigger | Feb 5 2017, 03:08 PM Post #6 |
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Other politicians apparently John! ![]() Having only researched this subject in the Express I cannot tell you who they are, as far as I can work out all the other politicians will lose because if they don't Islam will take over Holland and it will be run by diktat from Berlin. (post contains irony) Edited by Tigger, Feb 5 2017, 03:09 PM.
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| marybrown | Feb 5 2017, 04:39 PM Post #7 |
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Islam has already taken over Holland..there are more Mosques than you can shake a stick at.. |
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| Rich | Feb 5 2017, 04:55 PM Post #8 |
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If you don't mind, I would like to change that last line a bit.... "there are more mosques than you can SHEIK a stick at. Edited by Rich, Feb 5 2017, 04:55 PM.
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| Steve K | Feb 5 2017, 04:57 PM Post #9 |
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453 apparently, well 452 now because one was burnt down recently That'd be a small fraction of the number of drug cafes or knocking shops then. The highly agnostic Dutch worship other things at other places than churches |
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| Rich | Feb 5 2017, 05:04 PM Post #10 |
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How do you think those living in Islamic orientated countries would feel if the Dutch moved in in vast numbers and practised their present day liberal culture? When in Rome....... |
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| Tigger | Feb 5 2017, 06:50 PM Post #11 |
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A rather strange thing to suggest. The Dutch are liberal well educated and easy going and probably wouldn't move to a repressive nation that does not respect the rights of the individual. |
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| papasmurf | Feb 5 2017, 07:14 PM Post #12 |
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I'm suspect you are somewhat out of touch. |
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| Rich | Feb 5 2017, 07:19 PM Post #13 |
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You were always well known for understatements. |
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| Tigger | Feb 5 2017, 07:44 PM Post #14 |
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I must admit I'm not that up to date on Dutch attitudes not having been there for several years but I think we tend to think foreigners are well...a bit unstable compared to us. I can't see the Dutch voting for oblivion and right wing bollocks. |
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| papasmurf | Feb 5 2017, 08:36 PM Post #15 |
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Just google Geert Wilders polls |
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| Tigger | Feb 5 2017, 08:48 PM Post #16 |
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The thing is the Dutch have coalition governments and despite his lead in the polls the other more numerous and moderate parties have already said they will not form a government with his group. |
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| Oddball | Feb 6 2017, 02:46 AM Post #17 |
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I can percieve at some stage a political, cultural and religious clash between secular tolerant knocking shop and drug liberalism, and the official strictures of Islam. |
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| marybrown | Feb 6 2017, 04:09 PM Post #18 |
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Most of the knocking shops are Turkish run..and a lot of the drug dealing is also Turkish?? |
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| Tigger | Feb 6 2017, 11:00 PM Post #19 |
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I'm fairly sure there are other thinks in Holland apart from hash and knocking shops.. Don't bother mentioning tulips or windmills either. |
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| papasmurf | Feb 6 2017, 11:10 PM Post #20 |
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There is Zwarte Piet day. |
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| Steve K | Feb 6 2017, 11:32 PM Post #21 |
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quite a laugh if you're there at the timeAnd Tigger it was my post that brought up drugs and knocking shops (as being more popular religions there than Islam). Can't blame Mary for carrying on that line. |
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| marybrown | Feb 7 2017, 12:34 PM Post #22 |
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I think that Zwarte Piet's days are numbered as it has been deemed racist by many towns and cities in Holland...so no more naughty kids can be sent to Portugal!!
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| Steve K | Mar 15 2017, 10:49 PM Post #23 |
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Seems not http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39285803
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 15 2017, 11:40 PM Post #24 |
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Sanity prevails. |
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| Rich | Mar 16 2017, 12:44 AM Post #25 |
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That depends on which side of the rose tinted spectacles you are looking from. |
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 16 2017, 01:05 AM Post #26 |
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I'm not wild about neo-fascism. People like that just exacerbate the complex problem of mass migration that is just at the beginning. We are only a few decades away from having large populations on the move because of inundation from rising sea levels. A huge part of humanity lives in deltas and estuaries that are just above sea level, now. The Ganges, Hindus, Mississippi, Nile, Thames, Fraser (in our country) all of Holland, most of Florida, all of Bangladesh, big parts of China will all be on the move, simultaneously and unless you are a fan of World War, you are best not to follow the Wilders path. Edited by Curious Cdn, Mar 16 2017, 01:06 AM.
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| Rich | Mar 16 2017, 01:40 AM Post #27 |
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You may well take that stance and it is most understandable, you have millions of acres of uninhabited land other than animals....we here in the UK are an Island with limited space and we are all ready full up. Please tell me, if your house in Canada is 4 bedroomed and each room is used, how many more will you invite into your house before you say.....enough, no more? |
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| Deleted User | Mar 16 2017, 07:27 AM Post #28 |
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Hoards of migrants using up resources hitherto unused can be as disastrous as any war. Just ask your indigenous population. |
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| Deleted User | Mar 16 2017, 07:44 AM Post #29 |
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Curious is going to find out how mass immigration feels if JT and his handlers get their way. |
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| Steve K | Mar 16 2017, 10:09 AM Post #30 |
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 16 2017, 10:57 AM Post #31 |
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We are a nation of migrants. Mass immigration has already happened and the biggest part flooded in from your islands.The British are a migratory people that have left a third of a billion descendants of their floods scattered all over the planet. You make the Muslims look like lazy strollers. The pot is calling the kettle black. Edited by Curious Cdn, Mar 16 2017, 10:59 AM.
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| marybrown | Mar 16 2017, 11:48 AM Post #32 |
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I can't say I am surprised at the result..After all..Holland is now so full of Muslims ...It would be like a turkey voting for Christmas!!! |
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| Steve K | Mar 16 2017, 12:09 PM Post #33 |
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Yes 5% is "so full" to some isn't it http://www.indexmundi.com/netherlands/demographics_profile.html |
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| marybrown | Mar 16 2017, 12:22 PM Post #34 |
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You'll be believing our government figures on immigration next!! |
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| Rich | Mar 16 2017, 12:26 PM Post #35 |
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From little acorns big oaks grow, and that is no problem as long as that big oak does not shut out the light to other trees and plants such that they die. |
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| Deleted User | Mar 16 2017, 12:31 PM Post #36 |
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Wilders may have stood a chance if he wasnt a lunatic. |
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| marybrown | Mar 16 2017, 12:44 PM Post #37 |
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Have you ever been to Holland?..I must have met the 5% in Rotterdam!! In Hoogstraat!.. Edited by marybrown, Mar 16 2017, 12:46 PM.
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| RoofGardener | Mar 16 2017, 12:50 PM Post #38 |
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Hmm... lets not forget that the PVV has increased its representation in parliament in every general election since their formation back in 2006, and THIS one is no exception. They have gone up from 5th place in 2006, to third place in 2012, to second place in 2017 ! They have more than twice the number of seats in the new parliament than the Lib Dems have in the UK, even though the Dutch parliament is only one-quarter of the size. If the PVV where a liberal, multiculturalist party, then I can help but think that our Media would be trumpeting its success.
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| Deleted User | Mar 16 2017, 12:51 PM Post #39 |
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I went to Rotterdam for a day to work and have been stoned in Amsterdam a couple of times Oh and competed in Utrecht ..forgot about that ..happy days. |
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| marybrown | Mar 16 2017, 12:59 PM Post #40 |
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What I never understood about the ''Coffee houses''..you could get out of your skull..and smoke them inside..but if you wanted a shop bought straight ciggie..you had to smoke them outside?
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quite a laugh if you're there at the time


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