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| Topic Started: Feb 8 2017, 10:02 AM (1,038 Views) | |
| Mr Pat | Feb 8 2017, 10:02 AM Post #1 |
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We can only hope. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I Edited by Mr Pat, Feb 8 2017, 10:04 AM.
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| Rich | Feb 13 2017, 12:32 AM Post #81 |
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No thanks, I would much rather stay in my own country of Birth and try to make it better than it is as opposed to leaving for more lenient and welcoming countries that have fought countless conflicts to get where they are today. Those that say they are oppressesd and trodden over have only themselves to blame, the wealthy and hedonistic west was once like that but actually did something about it. If you are willing to be walked over then you will be taken advantage of. |
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| Affa | Feb 13 2017, 03:16 PM Post #82 |
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We're not disagreeing here. I understand that there is interstate migration and suspect that there are measures to limit how much (or how easy) it is ........ my point was 'is there a lesson there that the EU can learn and implement'? The UK government hasn't put hurdles to make it harder for immigrants to get a foothold - they've done the opposite! |
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| Paul | Feb 13 2017, 03:17 PM Post #83 |
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If we had not been lied to by our politicians in the 70's perhaps we would never have joined the Common Market in the first place. |
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| Steve K | Feb 13 2017, 03:28 PM Post #84 |
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Oh not THAT line again. Go on name such a lie. You might want to read this first The Gov Pamphlet delivered to every household before the 1975 Euro Referendum |
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| papasmurf | Feb 13 2017, 03:46 PM Post #85 |
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Try getting a site that is open all year around in Britain. |
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| Steve K | Feb 13 2017, 03:51 PM Post #86 |
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Ah yes. Bit of a diversion from topic but IIRC that's all to do with people avoiding council tax by claiming they're not permanent residents. |
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| papasmurf | Feb 13 2017, 03:57 PM Post #87 |
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It is all to do with open all year sites being a rare as rocking horse poo. There is no avoidance of council tax because that is part of the site charge. |
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| Rich | Feb 13 2017, 05:07 PM Post #88 |
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How long does one have to reside in a place before one is classified as a permanent resident? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-36266504 |
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| Mr Pat | Feb 24 2017, 02:19 AM Post #89 |
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I see the EU are already worried about the shortfall of funding when we leave; demanding 60 billion to see them through. It appears they really did like our money. |
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| Affa | Feb 24 2017, 09:28 AM Post #90 |
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Don't Pay the demands ....... nobody else does. |
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| Steve K | Feb 24 2017, 11:05 AM Post #91 |
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It's a silly claim but yes some in Brussels have opined such. Hence the counter claim that in that case we'd take our share of their assets, we could also demand free access to the single market too Just a silly game really, the public deserve better |
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| Steve K | Mar 1 2017, 08:06 PM Post #92 |
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Juncker has published a paper laying out 5 options the EU can pursue for its future Overview: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39132141 Full white paper: http://europa.eu/rapid/attachment/IP-17-385/en/White%20Paper%20on%20the%20future%20of%20Europe.pdf How strange that this USofE we were told over and over again that the EU was committed to isn't one of the options or even one of the policies impacted by the options. Because it never was true in the first place perchance? That the leavers were pushing a false line to get something they emotionally wanted by use of false instrument? Perish the thought |
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| Rich | Mar 1 2017, 08:27 PM Post #93 |
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You cannot blame folks for taking a particular stance when their concerns are ignored and the perception projected by the EU leads them down the road of leaving, the EU has only itself to blame for being inflexible, intransigent and arrogant for the outcome that has taken place in the UK, UK governments get exactly the same treatment when they do not listen to the concerns of those that pay their wages and fund their gold plated pensions. |
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| Steve K | Mar 1 2017, 08:33 PM Post #94 |
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It was the perception created by charlatans like Farage and their camp followers who knew USofE was dead in the water by 2008 yet kept their idiot Project Fear about it going for ever after. Well they knew they'd lose an honest informed argument so they thought better to tell untruths than give up their emotional obsession |
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| Tigger | Mar 1 2017, 10:02 PM Post #95 |
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Perhaps it was a plan to get the UK out? After all we've been the whinging neighbour for as long as I can remember, and one or two of my Continental friends (unfairly) blame the UK and US primarily for the banking crisis. |
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| The Buccaneer | Mar 5 2017, 12:09 AM Post #96 |
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I read the Juncker 'options' and 'path five' is merely another way of saying federation without using that word. The ckue is in the drive to save the € from extinction, because without a common tax, budget and legal system, it is doomed. |
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