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| General sexual assault discussion including Trump allegations; Off-topic diversion from "Asylum seeker commits sexual assaults..." thread | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 10 2017, 09:13 AM (67 Views) | |
| papasmurf | Feb 10 2017, 09:13 AM Post #1 |
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There is no mention of 18 women on the police source the DM references at the bottom of the page. (Perhaps the DM doesn't have a fluent German speaker.) |
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| Cymru | Feb 10 2017, 09:59 AM Post #2 |
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Translated it and it DOES mention 18 women. Specifically:
Which is a translation of:
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 10 2017, 10:03 AM Post #3 |
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Precisely, which is why I'm opposed to inviting a foreigner who has been caught on tape boasting about sexually assaulting women into this country. Yet some people here want to give Donald Trump a state visit. |
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| papasmurf | Feb 10 2017, 10:05 AM Post #4 |
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That is not 18 sexual assaults. (Sorry but the DM is egging the pudding, the police report isn't.) |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 10 2017, 10:07 AM Post #5 |
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And what's the difference between this and Donald Trump groping women and grabbing them by the vagina? Why do you condemn one but hero worship the other? Why do you want to keep one out of the country but roll out the red carpet for the other? Putting political partisanship before womens rights perhaps? |
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| Cymru | Feb 10 2017, 10:11 AM Post #6 |
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Wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 10 2017, 10:15 AM Post #7 |
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A lot of people only pretend to care about this sort of thing when it's politically convenient. |
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| papasmurf | Feb 10 2017, 10:17 AM Post #8 |
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Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Plus the devil is in the detail when it comes to proving sexually assault in court. http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/rape_and_sexual_offences/soa_2003_and_soa_1956/#a11 Sexual Assault (section 3) The elements of the offence of sexual assault are: A person (A) intentionally touches another person (B) the touching is sexual (B) does not consent to the touching, and (A) does not reasonably believe that (B) consents. Key points The meaning of sexual, consent (See Rape and Sexual Offences: Chapter 3), reasonable belief and evidential and conclusive presumptions apply to this offence. Touching is widely defined and includes with any part of the body, or with anything else, and can be through clothing. In R v H (Karl Anthony) [2005] 2 Cr. App. R. 9, the Court of Appeal held that the touching of an individual's clothing was sufficient to amount to 'touching' for the purposes of section 3. Where touching was not automatically by its nature sexual, it was possible to ascertain whether the touching had been sexual by determining whether by its nature it might have been sexual and if so whether in the circumstances the purpose had in fact been sexual. Touching includes touching amounting to penetration e.g. kissing. Where there is sufficient evidence, penile penetration of the vagina, anus or mouth should be charged as rape and penetration of the vagina or anus with any part of a person's body or other object should be charged as assault by penetration. Either gender can commit the offence. |
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| Cymru | Feb 10 2017, 10:26 AM Post #9 |
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The quoted text from the Wikipedia article is based on information from cited references, namely the Office on Women's Health, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. |
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| Cymru | Feb 10 2017, 10:27 AM Post #10 |
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The fact that Trump has never done those things. |
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| papasmurf | Feb 10 2017, 10:29 AM Post #11 |
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Really? So all his accusers are lying? |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 10 2017, 10:42 AM Post #12 |
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You mean the things he was caught on tape confessing to? |
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| Cymru | Feb 10 2017, 02:00 PM Post #13 |
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Hardly a confession. He was engaging in jocular bragging with a friend and did not refer to any one individual in particular. |
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| marybrown | Feb 10 2017, 03:35 PM Post #14 |
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I wish all the men who had sexually harassed me in the 1970's..and I'd have had a video..I would have been been minted.. |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 10 2017, 03:37 PM Post #15 |
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So you're cool with someone bragging about sexually assualting women? |
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| papasmurf | Feb 10 2017, 03:43 PM Post #16 |
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No, it referred to something he made a habit of. |
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| johnofgwent | Feb 10 2017, 03:46 PM Post #17 |
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It .. It is GREEN !!
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I'll settle for a video of the "orderly" at the Parc Hospital at Bryncethin that raped my then girlfriend wwhen she was an in patient in '76 |
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