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| Topic Started: Mar 13 2017, 07:38 AM (1,711 Views) | |
| C-too | Mar 13 2017, 07:38 AM Post #1 |
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The spat between Turkey and the Netherlands has led to some very nasty comments by Erdogan. It seems that Erdogan wants more power and control in Turkey and sees the actions by the Dutch (and Germans) as a stumbling block in his ambitions. Judging by the comments by Erdogan I would think he is not fit to have any power, authority or control anywhere. "They are Nazi remnants, they are fascists," Erdogan said, days after he angrily compared moves to block rallies in Germany to "Nazi practices". Netherlands Prime Minister Mark Rutte called Erdogan's remark comparing the Dutch to the Nazis "crazy". http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/03/turkey-tells-dutch-ambassador-don-hurry-170311201322798.html |
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| Deleted User | Mar 19 2017, 01:32 PM Post #161 |
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My guess is that if it's going to happen it will be around mid 21st century. The extremists of both sides control the narrative not the ordinary joes. The ordinary Joes respond when they have to choose a side . We saw this in Nazi Germany and we are seeing this in Turkey. I would put the break up of Yugoslavia as a better example. My newsagent and Dentist are both Muslims . So are ISIS . My I don't know my newsagents or Dentists political views but I do know The ISIS ones....and I'm going to guess that my Newagents and Dentist view would gravitate more and more towards ISIS ones if ISIS came down my local high street in tanks. |
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| marybrown | Mar 19 2017, 01:37 PM Post #162 |
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Can I have a ''P' please Bob? |
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| Steve K | Mar 19 2017, 01:37 PM Post #163 |
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That's the old "both Hitler and you breathed air so you are both mass murderers" fallacy |
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| Deleted User | Mar 19 2017, 01:44 PM Post #164 |
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Whereas your is the deliberatey misunderstand and post strawman fallacy. |
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| marybrown | Mar 19 2017, 01:45 PM Post #165 |
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So..your wife went out half naked..being blonde as well I'm blonde and one thing you must do is respect the local culture..Whenever I've visited Muslim countries..I wear long sleeves and long trousers/skirt.. It is no good waltzing around these places like you are in Benidorm..It just doesn't work that way!! |
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| Steve K | Mar 19 2017, 01:50 PM Post #166 |
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Err if you look what you were responding to it was a fair question bout what "not long" meant A question that the poster ran a mile from |
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| Deleted User | Mar 19 2017, 01:50 PM Post #167 |
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You are somewhat 'homely' Mary..get over it.
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| marybrown | Mar 19 2017, 01:52 PM Post #168 |
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Once again..a rude post..let's av a look at your boat race then? |
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| Deleted User | Mar 19 2017, 01:53 PM Post #169 |
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My post was somewhat independent of that post. If you had read it all would have been clear...are you going to obfuscate for a bit? |
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| marybrown | Mar 19 2017, 02:22 PM Post #170 |
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No..I think we are going to ignore you..Gansao is a nice person..I didn't realise he had an evil twin...
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| Deleted User | Mar 19 2017, 02:32 PM Post #171 |
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I reckon Mary is older but still hot. In my imagination
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| Steve K | Mar 19 2017, 03:04 PM Post #172 |
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Not at all. Not my fault if you quote something and then pretend it's false to assume we can take your reply as referring to that Now you allege "deliberatey misunderstand and post strawman fallacy" but seem to be "obfuscating" as to just what you are referring to. Maybe you have me confused with Delf's strawman fallacy of "There is going to be a bloody war fought on our streets before long.". Please clarify. |
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| Steve K | Mar 19 2017, 03:08 PM Post #173 |
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Several trolling posts removed. We really are in Mr Thread meets Mr Gutter territory so high time we cut it out Edited by Steve K, Mar 19 2017, 03:24 PM.
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| marybrown | Mar 19 2017, 04:18 PM Post #174 |
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Well that's another thread been annulled?
Edited by marybrown, Mar 19 2017, 04:26 PM.
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| marybrown | Mar 19 2017, 04:27 PM Post #175 |
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Bloody hell Gansao..can you post something before my tea dries up? |
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| Deleted User | Mar 19 2017, 04:29 PM Post #176 |
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TBH I would happily take my post and repost it on its own...as a separate point..some other time. I also didn't realise that Delf was using this claim to refute a point that had nothing to do with it. I accept that my post was out of context enough with the main drag of the thread to be either a strawman or completely irrelevant due to my misunderstanding I haven't checked this but nevertheless apologise and accept that I did exactly what I blame others of doing. |
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| Deleted User | Mar 19 2017, 04:30 PM Post #177 |
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I love you dearly and accept that you know lots more than me about arabs. How about that? |
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| marybrown | Mar 19 2017, 04:37 PM Post #178 |
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That's a good call...
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| Deleted User | Mar 19 2017, 04:43 PM Post #179 |
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So are you baby..❤ Too much? |
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| marybrown | Mar 19 2017, 04:46 PM Post #180 |
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No I want friends on here..not enemies.. |
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| Rich | Mar 19 2017, 05:06 PM Post #181 |
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I'm your friend Mary.....you will get no grief from me......then again, I am a gentleman and was raised with the correct manners and compassion that is demanded in a decent society.
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| marybrown | Mar 19 2017, 05:14 PM Post #182 |
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I know..we go a long way back..about 10 years I reckon..and you have never been rude to me once.. |
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| marybrown | Mar 19 2017, 05:18 PM Post #183 |
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Do you remember when PS reckoned he could get a sack of pig's ears for 10 bob..Pass..
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| marybrown | Mar 19 2017, 05:23 PM Post #184 |
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Ok I've led this post away from the original thread...Do they eat pig's ears in Turkey?? |
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| RoofGardener | Mar 19 2017, 05:42 PM Post #185 |
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"War on the streets " ? Oh come come, that is just Islamaphobic Racist paranoia. Except... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39047455 (Sweden) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack (France) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2015_Paris_attacks (France) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%9309_Oslo_riots (Norway) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Year's_Eve_sexual_assaults_in_Germany (Germany) http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/08/migrant-sex-attacks-increase-133-per-cent/ (Austria) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Brussels_bombings (Belgium) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36035174 (Spain) I could go on. |
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| marybrown | Mar 19 2017, 05:54 PM Post #186 |
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| Deleted User | Mar 19 2017, 06:19 PM Post #187 |
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Which takes me back to my post that claims extremists control the narrative. History has proved this time and time again. People will take sides and a perceived overreaction from one side will start one from the other side. Meanwhile attitudes harden and become more viscous and extreme. It's not necessarily the amount of extremist within the community ,what is more important is how many people with the potential and possibility to take sides. As in the former Yugoslavia people who previously were friends became deadly enemies. |
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| Rich | Mar 19 2017, 06:22 PM Post #188 |
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I am glad that I do not reside in those areas of Europe. |
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| Steve K | Mar 19 2017, 06:48 PM Post #189 |
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and embarrass yourself further showing you ain't got a clue what war really is like. Feel free Go on educate yourself (but note the warning in the url) http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/syria-conflict-5-years-savage-civil-war-60-powerful-photos-graphic-images-warning-1549534 |
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| RoofGardener | Mar 19 2017, 09:15 PM Post #190 |
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Indeed, except I was only making one specific point; that we are not THAT far from the "..war on the streets" alluded to earlier. Indeed, the residence of Paris in particular might consider that they've been under attack "on the streets" for some time. |
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| Deleted User | Mar 19 2017, 11:10 PM Post #191 |
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About Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YonKkoqTyUs |
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| Tigger | Mar 19 2017, 11:25 PM Post #192 |
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Nice bit of right wing propaganda there, for the best laughs check out the comments below the vid from gun toting Americans! I'd have Paris under Islamic siege any day!
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| Rich | Mar 19 2017, 11:28 PM Post #193 |
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Blimey or should I say FM? should we expect the same if we do not bolster and man our borders more intensely. Seems to me that 52% have made the right decision for the right reasons in the nick of time. But we must not take our eye off of the ball, with the summer due and the Freedom of movement about to end then a sudden inrush is well on the cards. What is happening there in Paris and other "arrondissements is only 22 miles from our coast,.....frightening isn't it.
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| Tigger | Mar 19 2017, 11:28 PM Post #194 |
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Nice bit of right wing propaganda there Delf, for the best laughs check out the comments below the vid from gun toting Americans! I'd have Paris under Islamic siege any day! I've just had another look, how about this for starters, and this is one of the milder comments! "Kick all the Jews out of Europe, problem solved". Edited by Tigger, Mar 19 2017, 11:29 PM.
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| Tigger | Mar 19 2017, 11:30 PM Post #195 |
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What is more frightening is that you take it all at face value!
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| Deleted User | Mar 19 2017, 11:35 PM Post #196 |
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Hey some of those mericans are getting twitchy, as for Paris could keep posting clips all night of the shit going down. This one is an angry American lady though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9spx7xPRBFw "When a million zombies come over that hill you will glad you bought enough bullets" Said someone out there.
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| Deleted User | Mar 19 2017, 11:52 PM Post #197 |
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What Europe needs is a cool rainy summer if we get a long hot one anything could happen. |
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| Tigger | Mar 19 2017, 11:55 PM Post #198 |
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It's probably not a good idea to take these clips at face value, only the converted need apply.
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| Steve K | Mar 20 2017, 12:10 AM Post #199 |
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Just when will you realise you're being fed bollocks pandering to your preconceptions? Oh and whoever was your geography teacher should be shot. "Arrondisements just 22 miles away"
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| Rich | Mar 20 2017, 12:55 AM Post #200 |
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I was referring to the northern coast of France where a good number of the immigrants are being herded to, scoff if you wish, I will stick with my concerns, but at least we both now know where we stand. |
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