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The almost interesting 'what is an Ad Hom' discussion; from Brexit Self Harm
Topic Started: Apr 24 2017, 08:59 PM (18 Views)
Dan1989
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Tigger
Apr 24 2017, 08:56 PM
Dan1989
Apr 24 2017, 08:17 PM


Or does not mention that a large number of German equipment was stolen from Czechoslovakia, like the ever useful Panzer 38T, which was later turned into the Marder III, also the favoured Bren Gun was made in Czechoslovakia, with changes made by Britain to suit its needs, there's a lot missing.

Does not even tell you about operation Chariot or Unit 731.

There's more, but it's been a while since I watched it, another one is over glorification of Germany Armour and forgetting about the larger variations in tanks, Germany most used and probably most successful was the Sturmgeschütz IV a retrofit of the Panzer 4.

It's a good documentary, but it's very outdated now.
An expected side step with little merit.  ::)

The World at War was about the political and historic events of that period, not the techincal minutiae, it is now a valuable source of information as many of the senior and not so senior figures who were there contributed, which is why I brought it up in the first place.
Oh look, more rudeness and he wonders why no-one really responds to him, at this rate, will only be me & Steve.
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Steve K
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Dan1989
Apr 24 2017, 08:59 PM
Oh look, more rudeness and he wonders why no-one really responds to him, at this rate, will only be me & Steve.
If you think someone posting a message challenge such as "An expected side step with little merit" is rudeness then you really need to subscribe to the Wiltingflowers-R-Us forum
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Apr 24 2017, 09:03 PM
Dan1989
Apr 24 2017, 08:59 PM
Oh look, more rudeness and he wonders why no-one really responds to him, at this rate, will only be me & Steve.
If you think someone posting a message challenge such as "An expected side step with little merit" is rudeness then you really need to subscribe to the Wiltingflowers-R-Us forum
He's arguing the person, not the content, that's rudeness within debating culture, hence ad hominem, I try to keep it on subject, but he as always, makes it about the person.

Probably why most don't respond to him much.
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Tigger
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Dan1989
Apr 24 2017, 08:59 PM
Oh look, more rudeness and he wonders why no-one really responds to him, at this rate, will only be me & Steve.
Not rudeness, facts. :)

You made statements that when pressed you could not back up because you've been winging it.
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Dan1989
Apr 24 2017, 09:04 PM
Steve K
Apr 24 2017, 09:03 PM
Dan1989
Apr 24 2017, 08:59 PM
Oh look, more rudeness and he wonders why no-one really responds to him, at this rate, will only be me & Steve.
If you think someone posting a message challenge such as "An expected side step with little merit" is rudeness then you really need to subscribe to the Wiltingflowers-R-Us forum
He's arguing the person, not the content, that's rudeness within debating culture, hence ad hominem, I try to keep it on subject, but he as always, makes it about the person.

Probably why most don't respond to him much.
Report it then, we need a laugh sometimes. Or maybe you should actually read the post you say is an ad hominem first. Or maybe we should look at some of your recent posts to compare.

Here's a clue

"An expected side step with little merit" is attacking the message

"Aren't we a cry baby" is attacking the person


Perhaps you might want to get back to debating the topic at hand.

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Dan1989
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Apr 24 2017, 09:07 PM
Dan1989
Apr 24 2017, 08:59 PM
Oh look, more rudeness and he wonders why no-one really responds to him, at this rate, will only be me & Steve.
Not rudeness, facts. :)

You made statements that when pressed you could not back up because you've been winging it.
I said it's outdated, and shown you examples, but keep attacking the person, instead of what I responded with.
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Apr 24 2017, 09:04 PM
He's arguing the person, not the content, that's rudeness within debating culture, hence ad hominem, I try to keep it on subject, but he as always, makes it about the person.

Probably why most don't respond to him much.
You called me a dick earlier! ;D
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Apr 24 2017, 09:13 PM
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Apr 24 2017, 09:04 PM
Steve K
Apr 24 2017, 09:03 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep"An expected side step with little merit" is rudeness then you really need to subscribe to the Wiltingflowers-R-Us forum
He's arguing the person, not the content, that's rudeness within debating culture, hence ad hominem, I try to keep it on subject, but he as always, makes it about the person.

Probably why most don't respond to him much.
Report it then, we need a laugh sometimes. Or maybe you should actually read the post you say is an ad hominem first. Or maybe we should look at some of your recent posts to compare.

Here's a clue

"An expected side step with little merit" is attacking the message

"Aren't we a cry baby" is attacking the person


Perhaps you might want to get back to debating the topic at hand.

So, let me get this straight, instead of improving it, you'd rather remind the poster that he did it once, so carry on.

Maybe if it improved site wide, you know call out any ad hominem, that means Tigger can not post anymore, but oh-well.
Edited by Dan1989, Apr 24 2017, 09:17 PM.
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Apr 24 2017, 09:13 PM
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Apr 24 2017, 09:04 PM
He's arguing the person, not the content, that's rudeness within debating culture, hence ad hominem, I try to keep it on subject, but he as always, makes it about the person.

Probably why most don't respond to him much.
You called me a dick earlier! ;D
I'll say it again, in my last post, just because I did, should everyone else.

I only responded in kind, after a longer period of receiving it.
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Steve K
Apr 24 2017, 09:13 PM
Dan1989
Apr 24 2017, 09:04 PM
Steve K
Apr 24 2017, 09:03 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep"An expected side step with little merit" is rudeness then you really need to subscribe to the Wiltingflowers-R-Us forum
He's arguing the person, not the content, that's rudeness within debating culture, hence ad hominem, I try to keep it on subject, but he as always, makes it about the person.

Probably why most don't respond to him much.
Report it then, we need a laugh sometimes. Or maybe you should actually read the post you say is an ad hominem first. Or maybe we should look at some of your recent posts to compare.

Here's a clue

"An expected side step with little merit" is attacking the message

"Aren't we a cry baby" is attacking the person


Perhaps you might want to get back to debating the topic at hand.

No wonder we do not attract new members to this forum.
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Apr 24 2017, 09:41 PM
No wonder we do not attract new members to this forum.
A poster made a public accusation that another poster was breaking the rules and gave a very specific quote of where this was supposed to have occurred.

Perhaps you feel that a mod should ignore such, perhaps you feel that it shouldn't be equally publicly answered, perhaps you feel that my explanation was incorrect

Please clarify - by PM if you wish - as frankly I'm mystified as to just what point you are making
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