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Imran Awan; Dodgy IT staff
Topic Started: Jul 27 2017, 07:35 AM (445 Views)
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FBI Seized Smashed Hard Drives From Wasserman Schultz IT Aide Imran Awans Home
Imran Awan Was Arrested While Trying to Leave the Country and His Wife Is Already in Pakistan With Their Daughters

The investigation is focused on allegations the Awan group abused their access as congressional information technology (IT) administrators for dozens of Democratic members of the House of Representatives, including former Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chairwoman Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida.
Politico reported the criminal probe concerned “serious, potentially illegal, violations on the House IT network.”
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Developing story we could be hearing more about soon.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/23/exclusive-fbi-seized-smashed-hard-drives-from-wasserman-schultz-it-aides-home/

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Some form of link to the original source would be both appreciated, and conform to the rules.

All The Best
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Added link thanks.
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Comment in Washington Times:-

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/27/wasserman-schultzs-ex-it-guy-prompts-talk-treason/
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May we live in interesting times!
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Jul 27 2017, 11:01 AM
And for an explanation of that it's worth remembering that the 'Washington Times' is a more dubious media outlet than even the Daily Mail

Not to be confused with the Washington Post or New York Times that it tries to fool people that it is
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Jul 27 2017, 01:17 PM
And for an explanation of that it's worth remembering that the 'Washington Times' is a more dubious media outlet than even the Daily Mail

So are most of the other newspapers running the story. However it is the surname Awan that interests me. I am trying to find out if there is a relation between the Awan being referred to in this thread and a serious crook with the same surname who legged it out of Britain several years ago with a substantial amount of other people's money.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/07/27/abc-nbc-and-cbs-pretty-much-bury-it-scandal-engulfing-debbie-wasserman-schultzs-office-n2360649
Concerning media coverage, Politico has reported something on it, but the big three—ABC, NBC, and CBS—have virtually buried this story, preventing the millions of viewers that tune into these respective networks from learning about it. NBC and ABC have been silent in their broadcasts, but CBS did devote 37 seconds to it.

Trump tweeted highlighting this earlier. If the story gets bigger it will be interesting to see how long they keep blanking it for.
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The Hill Reporter Joe Concha weighs in on the lack of mainstream media coverage of the Debbie Wasserman Schultz scandal and how it shows bias.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-fWBP1W4nU
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Jul 27 2017, 04:46 PM

Concerning media coverage, Politico has reported something on it, but the big three—ABC, NBC, and CBS—have virtually buried this story,
Nothing I can find on the BBC about it either practically every other TV news outlet seems to be on the case though.
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Jul 27 2017, 03:52 PM
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Jul 27 2017, 01:17 PM
And for an explanation of that it's worth remembering that the 'Washington Times' is a more dubious media outlet than even the Daily Mail

So are most of the other newspapers running the story. However it is the surname Awan that interests me. I am trying to find out if there is a relation between the Awan being referred to in this thread and a serious crook with the same surname who legged it out of Britain several years ago with a substantial amount of other people's money.
Would that be the Mancunian bootlegger ??
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Jul 27 2017, 07:00 PM
Would that be the Mancunian bootlegger ??
No, it wouldn't.
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Jul 27 2017, 04:46 PM
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/07/27/abc-nbc-and-cbs-pretty-much-bury-it-scandal-engulfing-debbie-wasserman-schultzs-office-n2360649
Concerning media coverage, Politico has reported something on it, but the big three—ABC, NBC, and CBS—have virtually buried this story, . . .
PorkyPie: ^

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/wasserman-schultz-fires-staffer-fraud-arrest-48857862

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/26/politics/imran-awan-house-democrats/index.html

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/debbie-wasserman-schultz-aide-arrested-trying-flee-country-n786651

Do stop posting false news Delf, it is against the rules
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Jul 27 2017, 07:17 PM
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Would that be the Mancunian bootlegger ??
No, it wouldn't.
In which case all I can think is "Imran Awan" is Pakistani for Arfur Daley

As there's several sets of them and their brothers on the run

As for the story itself, I've seen precious little of it so far in places I'd look for news, but I thought I did see a mention on RT which would explain why no other UK news source would touch it ... So is this guy going to death row for espionage it to the slammer for fraud ??? And who "pretended to be him" for his wire transfer ?? All good stuff !! Mind you, I seem to recall Cherie Blair had some well dodgy "aides" ...
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Jul 28 2017, 05:44 AM
In which case all I can think is "Imran Awan" is Pakistani for Arfur Daley

It is just the Awan surname I am interested in. (I won't give the first name because as far as I am aware the case is still being investigated.)
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Jul 27 2017, 07:38 PM
have virtually buried this story. Virtually...  ::)

Your not going to give me another warning are you?
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Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fired DNC Chair) Tries To Threaten US Capitol Police Chief
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ1aJhN6PoE

Whats up with her?
Surely if she and Imran have nothing to hide she has nothing to fear.
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Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the Pakistani IT Scammers
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449983/debbie-wasserman-schultz-pakistani-computer-guys-bank-fraud
Congressional-staff salaries are modest, in the $40,000 range. For some reason, Awan was paid about four times as much. He also managed to get his wife, Alvi, on the House payroll . . . then his brother, Abid Awan . . . then Abid’s wife, Natalia Sova. The youngest of the clan, Awan’s brother Jamal, came on board in 2014 — the then-20-year-old commanding an annual salary of $160,000.


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This Imran Awan?
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Imran Awan is Deputy Director of the Centre for Applied Criminology at Birmingham City University, UK. He is the co-editor of Policing Cyber-Hate, Cyber-Threats and Cyber-Terrorism (Ashgate, 2012) and Extremism, Counter-terrorism and Policing (Ashgate, 2013).
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This Imran Awan?
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Imran Awan is Deputy Director of the Centre for Applied Criminology at Birmingham City University, UK. He is the co-editor of Policing Cyber-Hate, Cyber-Threats and Cyber-Terrorism (Ashgate, 2012) and Extremism, Counter-terrorism and Policing (Ashgate, 2013).
Most likely not eh...  ::)
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Jul 30 2017, 04:23 PM
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This Imran Awan?
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Imran Awan is Deputy Director of the Centre for Applied Criminology at Birmingham City University, UK. He is the co-editor of Policing Cyber-Hate, Cyber-Threats and Cyber-Terrorism (Ashgate, 2012) and Extremism, Counter-terrorism and Policing (Ashgate, 2013).
Most likely not eh...  ::)
No.
the similarities, cyber security, are there, which is coincidental. what it causes in me is an awareness that those we entrust our security to are sometimes the people we need security from.
I have no reason to doubt that this Awan is not fighting extremism - other than he is of the same faith as those he is fighting against. A faith that we know has placement officials in areas where they can influence security services.That is concern, not an accusation.


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This Imran Awan?

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Most likely not eh...  ::)
No.
the similarities, cyber security, are there, which is coincidental. what it causes in me is an awareness that those we entrust our security to are sometimes the people we need security from.
I have no reason to doubt that this Awan is not fighting extremism - other than he is of the same faith as those he is fighting against. A faith that we know has placement officials in areas where they can influence security services.That is concern, not an accusation.


People who are of the same faith as Islamic extremists often have more reason to hate them than you do.
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No.
the similarities, cyber security, are there, which is coincidental. what it causes in me is an awareness that those we entrust our security to are sometimes the people we need security from.
I have no reason to doubt that this Awan is not fighting extremism - other than he is of the same faith as those he is fighting against. A faith that we know has placement officials in areas where they can influence security services.That is concern, not an accusation.


People who are of the same faith as Islamic extremists often have more reason to hate them than you do.
Do tell and please expand on that statement.
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People who are of the same faith as Islamic extremists often have more reason to hate them than you do.
Do tell and please expand on that statement.
Well for example most victims of ISIS are Muslims.
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Do tell and please expand on that statement.
Well for example most victims of ISIS are Muslims.
Yes and most slavers who enslaved poor black people were muslims too.

It would seem that muslims are their own worst enemy.

Make of that fact what you will.
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Well for example most victims of ISIS are Muslims.
Yes and most slavers who enslaved poor black people were muslims too.

It would seem that muslims are their own worst enemy.

Make of that fact what you will.
Us non-Muslims haven't exactly always treated each other splendidly have we?

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Yes and most slavers who enslaved poor black people were muslims too.

It would seem that muslims are their own worst enemy.

Make of that fact what you will.
Us non-Muslims haven't exactly always treated each other splendidly have we?

At best, I would have to say that that reply was a diplomatic dodge.
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What about Seth Rich, is all this linked? Will this latest scandal lead to more suspicious deaths and suicides...
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No.
the similarities, cyber security, are there, which is coincidental. what it causes in me is an awareness that those we entrust our security to are sometimes the people we need security from.
I have no reason to doubt that this Awan is not fighting extremism - other than he is of the same faith as those he is fighting against. A faith that we know has placement officials in areas where they can influence security services.That is concern, not an accusation.


People who are of the same faith as Islamic extremists often have more reason to hate them than you do.

I would hope they do.
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The 615-page survey found that more than 100,000 British Muslims sympathize with suicide bombers and people who commit other terrorist acts. Moreover, only one in three British Muslims (34%) would contact the police if they believed that somebody close to them had become involved with jihadists.
What British Muslims Realy Think
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Us non-Muslims haven't exactly always treated each other splendidly have we?

At best, I would have to say that that reply was a diplomatic dodge.
No it isn't, watch the news, read a history book.
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People who are of the same faith as Islamic extremists often have more reason to hate them than you do.

I would hope they do.
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The 615-page survey found that more than 100,000 British Muslims sympathize with suicide bombers and people who commit other terrorist acts. Moreover, only one in three British Muslims (34%) would contact the police if they believed that somebody close to them had become involved with jihadists.
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It would appear so:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063828/Muslims-patriotic-British-people.html

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPGfVZLzqXM
A Discussion on the Awan Brothers IT Scandal w/ Congressional House Members
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good stuff starts at 5:31
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbPtU4shoqQ
Imran Awan Operated Out of Pakistan While Managing House Cybersecurity
Short but surprising clip
Imran provided security remotely from Pakistan.

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