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Does "god" have a sense of humour?
Topic Started: Aug 29 2017, 11:13 AM (510 Views)
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I saw this in the Independent, and it made me chuckle.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/christian-home-destroyed-flood-tony-perkins-natural-disasters-gods-punishment-homosexuality-a7196786.html

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Louisiana floods destroy home of Christian leader who says God sends natural disasters to punish gay people


A flood has destroyed the home of a Christian lobbyist who preached that God sends natural disasters to punish gays.

President of the controversial Christian group Family Research Council, Tony Perkins, described a deluge of “near biblical proportions” hitting his Louisiana home.

During a broadcast on the group’s radio station, he told how he and his family had fled in a canoe.



So, does God have a sense of humour, or has Mr Perkins got some skeletons he wants to get out of the closet?

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No he doesn't

But satan does.
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Can't speak for the almighty but you would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh at this one.
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PV - 'Does God have a sense of humour?' - He must have, since He deemed it fit to sanction the likes of thee and me, and the other odd bods that inhabit UK Debate 2's hallowed forums!
Edited by Oddball, Aug 29 2017, 03:06 PM.
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Aug 29 2017, 03:04 PM
PV - 'Does God have a sense of humour?' - He must have, since He deemed it fit to sanction the likes of thee and me, and the other odd bods that inhabit UK Debate 2's hallowed forums!
If he does have..it must be a very sick one...
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Aug 29 2017, 03:04 PM
PV - 'Does God have a sense of humour?' - He must have, since He deemed it fit to sanction the likes of thee and me, and the other odd bods that inhabit UK Debate 2's hallowed forums!
I'm afraid that PV has adopted the ''mods swagger''

Power corrupts..
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Aug 29 2017, 03:35 PM
Oddball
Aug 29 2017, 03:04 PM
PV - 'Does God have a sense of humour?' - He must have, since He deemed it fit to sanction the likes of thee and me, and the other odd bods that inhabit UK Debate 2's hallowed forums!
I'm afraid that PV has adopted the ''mods swagger''

Power corrupts..
Care to elaborate Mary?

I'm not sure I follow your reasoning here.


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Well PV, I suppose we should whittle it down to whichever particular deity you are referring to.......as according to the many religions of the world there are many "Gods".

But there are apparently many more that sit in the seats of power and they most certainly do not have a sense of humour. :P

(unlike me) ;D
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Mr Perkins said he has been forced to live off “God’s provisions” following the flood.

i.e. That bank account in Switzerland...
Edited by Curious Cdn, Aug 30 2017, 10:26 AM.
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Curious Cdn
Aug 30 2017, 10:26 AM
Mr Perkins said he has been forced to live off “God’s provisions” following the flood.

i.e. That bank account in Switzerland...
Frozen member???? whats the weather like over there CC?
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Aug 30 2017, 11:22 AM
Curious Cdn
Aug 30 2017, 10:26 AM
Mr Perkins said he has been forced to live off “God’s provisions” following the flood.<br /><br />i.e. That bank account in Switzerland...
Frozen member???? whats the weather like over there CC?
It must have been January when I wrote that.
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Don't know about a sense of humour, but if he exists, he must be a complete and utter sadist, racist, fascist psychopath.
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Sep 1 2017, 04:26 PM
Don't know about a sense of humour, but if he exists, he must be a complete and utter sadist, racist, fascist psychopath.
It would seem that this so called God does indeed exist, but I get the impression that this God is in the creative imagination of peoples who need something to believe in other than their frail and unsure selves.

But on a lighter note, if he does have a sense of humour then I think it is warped.
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Sep 1 2017, 04:30 PM
It would seem that this so called God does indeed exist, but I get the impression that this God is in the creative imagination of peoples who need something to believe in other than their frail and unsure selves.

God is for people who can't handle real life or drugs.
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If there is a God I sure hope he/she has a sense of humour.

I just love that section in one of the early Python books where philosophers are discussing God and "God knows what he was thinking when he invented sex" where one of them pipes up something like this

A: "Of course Jesus was a bastard you know"

B: " He was?"

A: "Yes because Joseph married Mary but wasn't his father"

B: "ah but he was an Almighty Bastard then"



:-[ I'll get me coat
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God does have a sense of humour. That's why most of us look silly with our clothes off. Know of any other species like that?
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Curious Cdn
Sep 2 2017, 12:40 PM
God does have a sense of humour. That's why most of us look silly with our clothes off. Know of any other species like that?
a fair few species

And I can think of a number of humans (all female!) that look interesting with their clothes off


This thread has gone a bit awry hasn't it. I blame that Steve
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Sep 2 2017, 08:02 AM
Rich
Sep 1 2017, 04:30 PM
It would seem that this so called God does indeed exist, but I get the impression that this God is in the creative imagination of peoples who need something to believe in other than their frail and unsure selves.

God is for people who can't handle real life or drugs.
In your humble opinion of course, Smurfy.

Wunner what you will have to say when you face Him after you snuff it? Popcorn:
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Sep 2 2017, 01:27 PM
In your humble opinion of course, Smurfy.

Actually it is a quote but I can't remember who by.
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Sep 2 2017, 01:27 PM
Wunner what you will have to say when you face Him after you snuff it? Popcorn:
I know what I would say.

"You ignorant, arrogant, inhumane bastard, I want nothing to do with you".

That is as polite as it will get.

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Sep 2 2017, 05:26 PM
I know what I would say.

"You ignorant, arrogant, inhumane bastard, I want nothing to do with you".

That is as polite as it will get.

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I think you are confusing me with Iain Duncan Smith.
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Sep 2 2017, 05:26 PM
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Sep 2 2017, 01:27 PM
Wunner what you will have to say when you face Him after you snuff it? Popcorn:
I know what I would say.

"You ignorant, arrogant, inhumane bastard, I want nothing to do with you".

That is as polite as it will get.

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PV - Well I won't say "See you in Hell", for both our sakes.
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As the old phrase goes: I'll swear there ain't no heaven and pray there ain't no hell
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Sep 2 2017, 09:23 PM
As the old phrase goes: I'll swear there ain't no heaven and pray there ain't no hell
If you've been told the Gospel and don't believe it, that's fine. If there's no afterlife we'll be dead for ever.
However...

I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live as if there isn't and to die to find out that there is. (Albert Camus)
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Sep 3 2017, 07:34 PM
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Sep 2 2017, 09:23 PM
As the old phrase goes: I'll swear there ain't no heaven and pray there ain't no hell
If you've been told the Gospel and don't believe it, that's fine. If there's no afterlife we'll be dead for ever.
However...

I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live as if there isn't and to die to find out that there is. (Albert Camus)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: /8/
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Sep 3 2017, 08:17 PM
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Sep 3 2017, 07:34 PM
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Sep 2 2017, 09:23 PM
As the old phrase goes: I'll swear there ain't no heaven and pray there ain't no hell
If you've been told the Gospel and don't believe it, that's fine. If there's no afterlife we'll be dead for ever.
However...

I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live as if there isn't and to die to find out that there is. (Albert Camus)
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: /8/
Yes very good that one :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Or as Jimmy Stewart said in Harvey: "Years ago my mother used to say to me, she'd say, "In this world, Elwood, you must be" - she always called me Elwood - "In this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant." Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me"
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Sep 3 2017, 07:34 PM
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Sep 2 2017, 09:23 PM
As the old phrase goes: I'll swear there ain't no heaven and pray there ain't no hell
If you've been told the Gospel and don't believe it, that's fine. If there's no afterlife we'll be dead for ever.
However...

I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live as if there isn't and to die to find out that there is. (Albert Camus)
Pascal's Wager: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager

Widely considered to be just about the weakest of all philosophical arguments in favour of Belief In God.

Something that 1st Year university students are taught to turn on its head to show the inherent weaknesses thereof.

As a simple challenge to Pascal's Wager I ask one simple question: which god, or goddess, should I believe in?

The only logical conclusion if one is following Pascal's Wager decision theory is to believe equally, in all gods, and goddesses.

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Sep 3 2017, 07:34 PM
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Sep 2 2017, 09:23 PM
As the old phrase goes: I'll swear there ain't no heaven and pray there ain't no hell
If you've been told the Gospel and don't believe it, that's fine. If there's no afterlife we'll be dead for ever.
However...

I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live as if there isn't and to die to find out that there is. (Albert Camus)
Pascal's Wager: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager

Widely considered to be just about the weakest of all philosophical arguments in favour of Belief In God.

Something that 1st Year university students are taught to turn on its head to show the inherent weaknesses thereof.

As a simple challenge to Pascal's Wager I ask one simple question: which god, or goddess, should I believe in?

The only logical conclusion if one is following Pascal's Wager decision theory is to believe equally, in all gods, and goddesses.

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Well I'm biased, but my recommendation is the God of Abraham and His Son Jesus, who said "I am the Way the Truth and the Life, no man cometh unto the Father, but by me".
So you can't even be a Christian unless you know Jesus for yourself. (You can be a christian with a small c, but that involves nothing supernatural)
No one else can do it for you.

You can be a Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, or Jedi Knight, but none of those religions guarantee a path to Heaven, if that's what anyone is hoping for, which I am!
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Sep 5 2017, 11:40 AM
Well I'm biased, but my recommendation is the God of Abraham and His Son Jesus, who said "I am the Way the Truth and the Life, no man cometh unto the Father, but by me".
Using the Bible to prove the validity of Biblical claims doesn't work.

By the same token I could use The Ainulindale to prove the existence of Illuvatar and the Ainur - coupling that with Pascal's Wage would then require you to worship the "gods" of Lord Of The Rings.


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Sep 5 2017, 11:40 AM

You can be a Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu, or Jedi Knight, but none of those religions guarantee a path to Heaven, if that's what anyone is hoping for, which I am!
BTW a careful study of Christian theology would demonstrate that believing in God to get to Heaven is all but guaranteed to result in the opposite - belief for personal gain is selfish, and that is counter to Christian teaching.


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Sep 5 2017, 11:45 AM
BTW a careful study of Christian theology would demonstrate that believing in God to get to Heaven is all but guaranteed to result in the opposite - belief for personal gain is selfish, and that is counter to Christian teaching.

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Using the Bible to prove the validity of Biblical claims doesn't work.
Where do you get such tosh. Salvation is a free gift, all it requires is repentance and faith in Christ.

I'm surprised you try to beat me with theology after the previous post which I've included for humour purposes. Irony alert.
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Sep 5 2017, 12:06 PM
Where do you get such tosh. Salvation is a free gift, all it requires is repentance and faith in Christ.
Believing in Christ BECAUSE you want to go to heaven ISN'T repentance - its selfish.


BTW how can salvation be a "free gift" if it requires we pay with "repentance and belief" - are you using a different definition of "free" to the rest of the world?


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Sep 5 2017, 12:06 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 11:45 AM
BTW a careful study of Christian theology would demonstrate that believing in God to get to Heaven is all but guaranteed to result in the opposite - belief for personal gain is selfish, and that is counter to Christian teaching.

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Using the Bible to prove the validity of Biblical claims doesn't work.
Where do you get such tosh. Salvation is a free gift, all it requires is repentance and faith in Christ.

I'm surprised you try to beat me with theology after the previous post which I've included for humour purposes. Irony alert.
Hardly seems fair on all of the native Americans and aborigines, who, by God's will, were cut off from the rest of the world and for centuries lived their whole lives having never heard of Christ or the Christian God.

Talk about being set up to fail.
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Sep 5 2017, 12:44 PM
Hardly seems fair on all of the native Americans and aborigines, who, by God's will, were cut off from the rest of the world and for centuries lived their whole lives having never heard of Christ or the Christian God.

Talk about being set up to fail.
That is essentially what all forms of monotheism espouse.

And that isn't even touching on the abominably inhumane Christian doctrine of "original sin"; which is in my opinion the most barbaric theological standpoint I have ever studied.

How can people who a) did not know God exists, and/or b) have not been baptised through no fault of their own be condemned to Hell because Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden Of Eden.

Not to mention that the sin in question was questioning God, not the several generations of incest that must have occurred to create the human race - if we believe the biblical nonsense.

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Sep 5 2017, 11:40 AM
Well I'm biased, but my recommendation is the God of Abraham and His Son Jesus, who said "I am the Way the Truth and the Life, no man cometh unto the Father, but by me".
Using the Bible to prove the validity of Biblical claims doesn't work.

By the same token I could use The Ainulindale to prove the existence of Illuvatar and the Ainur - coupling that with Pascal's Wage would then require you to worship the "gods" of Lord Of The Rings.


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I much prefer Tyto's "gods of the copy book headings" by Kipling.

http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poems_copybook.htm
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Sep 5 2017, 12:16 PM
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Sep 5 2017, 12:06 PM
Where do you get such tosh. Salvation is a free gift, all it requires is repentance and faith in Christ.
Believing in Christ BECAUSE you want to go to heaven ISN'T repentance - its selfish.


BTW how can salvation be a "free gift" if it requires we pay with "repentance and belief" - are you using a different definition of "free" to the rest of the world?


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PV - That is a TWIST on only part of the story.

Also, while the Protestant takes on 'salvation' is various, in Catholicism, the salvation offered by Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection, is not forced on us, we have as part of our human nature 'free-will'; it is for us to complete the deal, so to speak, yes this does include penitence of our sinfullness, and to truly attempt to ammend our lives. It is, as it were, a 'contract' in which we may choose to opt in or opt out - and choose the consequences.
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We all carry fear at some level we just deal with it in many different ways. Believing in God is one way, owning various guns is another.
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Sep 6 2017, 07:14 AM
We all carry fear at some level we just deal with it in many different ways. Believing in God is one way, owning various guns is another.
I believe in a god that has guns.

It's an American Evangelical thing.
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We all carry fear at some level we just deal with it in many different ways. Believing in God is one way, owning various guns is another.
I believe in a god that has guns.

It's an American Evangelical thing.
Quite.
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Of course god has a sense of humour. He invented it.
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