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Callous bastards
Topic Started: Oct 11 2017, 09:08 AM (719 Views)
papasmurf
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Recently I have got really hacked of with callous bastards. I think they should be visibly identifiable so if the get into situations where they need help the general public can make an informed choice of giving them their own back by offering no assistance at all.
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papasmurf
Oct 11 2017, 09:08 AM
Recently I have got really hacked of with callous bastards. I think they should be visibly identifiable so if the get into situations where they need help the general public can make an informed choice of giving them their own back by offering no assistance at all.
Which in essence is a form of callous behaviour equalling those you are criticisng. You really are a little ray of sunshine at times.
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Oct 11 2017, 03:24 PM
papasmurf
Oct 11 2017, 09:08 AM
Recently I have got really hacked of with callous bastards. I think they should be visibly identifiable so if the get into situations where they need help the general public can make an informed choice of giving them their own back by offering no assistance at all.
Which in essence is a form of callous behaviour equalling those you are criticisng. You really are a little ray of sunshine at times.
I thought the thread title was a review of the latest Quentin Tarantino film.
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Oct 11 2017, 03:24 PM
Which in essence is a form of callous behaviour equalling those you are criticisng.
Not at all, they don't care about anyone but themselves so why should I care about them.
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I thought this was going to be another rant against the evil, murdering Tories.
It might turn into one yet, of course.
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papasmurf
Oct 11 2017, 09:08 AM
Recently I have got really hacked of with callous bastards. I think they should be visibly identifiable so if the get into situations where they need help the general public can make an informed choice of giving them their own back by offering no assistance at all.
So, basically, anyone who disagrees with your line of thought is Callous, is that the case?......and apparently, born out of wedlock.....how you know this I just cannot begin to know.
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Oct 11 2017, 06:52 PM
So, basically, anyone who disagrees with your line of thought is Callous,
Callous is callous it has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with me.
showing or having an insensitive and cruel disregard for others.
"his callous comments about the murder made me shiver"
synonyms: heartless, unfeeling, uncaring, cold, cold-hearted, hard, as hard as nails, hard-hearted, with a heart of stone, stony-hearted, insensitive, lacking compassion, hard-bitten, cold-blooded, hardened, case-hardened, harsh, cruel, ruthless, brutal; unsympathetic, uncharitable, indifferent, unconcerned, unsusceptible, insensible, bloodless, soulless; informal hard-boiled; rare indurate, indurated, marble-hearted
"his callous disregard for the feelings and wishes of others"
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papasmurf
Oct 11 2017, 07:00 PM
Rich
Oct 11 2017, 06:52 PM
So, basically, anyone who disagrees with your line of thought is Callous,
Callous is callous it has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with me.
showing or having an insensitive and cruel disregard for others.
"his callous comments about the murder made me shiver"
synonyms: heartless, unfeeling, uncaring, cold, cold-hearted, hard, as hard as nails, hard-hearted, with a heart of stone, stony-hearted, insensitive, lacking compassion, hard-bitten, cold-blooded, hardened, case-hardened, harsh, cruel, ruthless, brutal; unsympathetic, uncharitable, indifferent, unconcerned, unsusceptible, insensible, bloodless, soulless; informal hard-boiled; rare indurate, indurated, marble-hearted
"his callous disregard for the feelings and wishes of others"
Has it occurred to you that some of the things you say might be considered callous to others?

Because believe me they are.
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Happy Hornet
Oct 11 2017, 07:08 PM
Has it occurred to you that some of the things you say might be considered callous to others?

Because believe me they are.
I merely respond in kind to callous people.
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papasmurf
Oct 11 2017, 07:13 PM
Happy Hornet
Oct 11 2017, 07:08 PM
Has it occurred to you that some of the things you say might be considered callous to others?

Because believe me they are.
I merely respond in kind to callous people.
Really? All those millions of men, women and children who if you had your way would be homeless are callous bastards are they?
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Alberich
Oct 11 2017, 03:24 PM
papasmurf
Oct 11 2017, 09:08 AM
Recently I have got really hacked of with callous bastards. I think they should be visibly identifiable so if the get into situations where they need help the general public can make an informed choice of giving them their own back by offering no assistance at all.
Which in essence is a form of callous behaviour equalling those you are criticisng. You really are a little ray of sunshine at times.
:)
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Happy Hornet
Oct 11 2017, 07:22 PM
Really? All those millions of men, women and children who if you had your way would be homeless are callous bastards are they?
What are you on about?
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papasmurf
Oct 11 2017, 08:25 PM
Happy Hornet
Oct 11 2017, 07:22 PM
Really? All those millions of men, women and children who if you had your way would be homeless are callous bastards are they?
What are you on about?
All of the millions of men, women and children who would be made homeless by the forced repatriation policy you advocate.

Not to mention the thousands of disbaled, elderly or infirm who would die.

Sounds pretty callous to me, way more callous than anything the current Tory government have done.
Edited by Happy Hornet, Oct 12 2017, 04:47 AM.
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Oct 12 2017, 04:47 AM
All of the millions of men, women and children who would be made homeless by the forced repatriation policy you advocate.

Not to mention the thousands of disbaled, elderly or infirm who would die.

Sounds pretty callous to me, way more callous than anything the current Tory government have done.
That have been explained to you many times. Britain can only in the long term sustainably supports a population of 22 million.
At some stage in the not too distant future that problem is going to be something the government in power of whatever political colour will have to face that and do something about it. The more time passes the more drastic the solution will have to be.
It has nothing to do with callousness at all.
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papasmurf
Oct 12 2017, 07:01 AM
Happy Hornet
Oct 12 2017, 04:47 AM
All of the millions of men, women and children who would be made homeless by the forced repatriation policy you advocate.

Not to mention the thousands of disbaled, elderly or infirm who would die.

Sounds pretty callous to me, way more callous than anything the current Tory government have done.
That have been explained to you many times. Britain can only in the long term sustainably supports a population of 22 million.
At some stage in the not too distant future that problem is going to be something the government in power of whatever political colour will have to face that and do something about it. The more time passes the more drastic the solution will have to be.
It has nothing to do with callousness at all.
Sounds pretty callous to me and I'm sure others too.

You will say of course that you are just being practical, doing what needs to be done. The people you label as callous bastards would say the exact same thing.

Try not to be so judgemental. Try looking at it from the other person's point of view.
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Oct 12 2017, 07:17 AM


You will say of course that you are just being practical, doing what needs to be done.
Just what do you suggest as a solution, because if the population growth in Britain is not stopped and reversed as a matter of urgency at some stage there will have to be a far nastier solution found.
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papasmurf
Oct 12 2017, 07:25 AM
Happy Hornet
Oct 12 2017, 07:17 AM


You will say of course that you are just being practical, doing what needs to be done.
Just what do you suggest as a solution, because if the population growth in Britain is not stopped and reversed as a matter of urgency at some stage there will have to be a far nastier solution found.
Well if we have to remove large swathes of the population why not be practical instead of ideological when selecting who to remove?

Identify those that will be of most use, those with skills, expertise that we need. People of working and tax paying age and the business owners who enploy them.

Then identify those who we don't need, people who take but put little or nothing back. Habitual criminals is an easy one but there are only so many of them. So let's look at others, like say the elderly. Anyone over retirement age who isn't an employer, ship them out.

I realise this means you and your wife being kicked out of your own home/country PS, but this country only has a carrying capacity of 22 million and something needs to be done. It's nothing personal.
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Happy Hornet
Oct 12 2017, 07:32 AM
Well if we have to remove large swathes of the population why not be practical instead of ideological when selecting who to remove?

It is a case of look after your own first, last in first out.
You solution is far more callous.
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papasmurf
Oct 12 2017, 07:43 AM
Happy Hornet
Oct 12 2017, 07:32 AM
Well if we have to remove large swathes of the population why not be practical instead of ideological when selecting who to remove?

It is a case of look after your own first, last in first out.
You solution is far more callous.
Your solution is ideological, personal.

Mine is practical, doing what's best for the country not my personal political/social leanings.

All of which deviates from the original point.

You DO seem callous to others despite not believing yourself to be. Try not to be so hasty in judging others.
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Oct 12 2017, 07:54 AM
Your solution is ideological, personal.

My solution is the least worst option. Plus looking after it's own citizens is after the defence of the realm is a major tenet of any government, (one the current government seems to have forgotten.
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papasmurf
Oct 12 2017, 07:58 AM
Happy Hornet
Oct 12 2017, 07:54 AM
Your solution is ideological, personal.

My solution is the least worst option. Plus looking after it's own citizens is after the defence of the realm is a major tenet of any government, (one the current government seems to have forgotten.
And the millions of people you want to remove are British citizens. So the government is doing it's duty protecting them from people like you.
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Oct 12 2017, 08:02 AM
And the millions of people you want to remove are British citizens. So the government is doing it's duty protecting them from people like you.
If you think the current government is protecting its citizens you are quite frankly deluded.
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papasmurf
Oct 12 2017, 08:06 AM
Happy Hornet
Oct 12 2017, 08:02 AM
And the millions of people you want to remove are British citizens. So the government is doing it's duty protecting them from people like you.
If you think the current government is protecting its citizens you are quite frankly deluded.
Nobody's put me in a cattle truck so they've got that right at least.
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Oct 12 2017, 08:08 AM
Nobody's put me in a cattle truck so they've got that right at least.
Yet.
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Oct 12 2017, 07:58 AM
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Oct 12 2017, 07:54 AM
Your solution is ideological, personal.

My solution is the least worst option. . .
It's not your solution, Hitler has copyright on it

You should be ashamed of those posts ^.
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Oct 12 2017, 09:27 AM
It's not your solution, Hitler has copyright on it

I am suggesting deportation not extermination. Just what is your solution to get the population of Britain back down to the carrying capacity before nature does it the hard way?
(By the way this has eff all to do with my thread opener. It is about callous bastards at a personal level, with the "everyone else can eff off and die as long as I am all right Jack," attitude of which there are several on this forum judging by their postings on the forum.)
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papasmurf
Oct 12 2017, 09:35 AM
Steve K
Oct 12 2017, 09:27 AM
It's not your solution, Hitler has copyright on it

I am suggesting deportation not extermination. Just what is your solution to get the population of Britain back down to the carrying capacity before nature does it the hard way?
(By the way this has eff all to do with my thread opener. It is about callous bastards at a personal level, with the "everyone else can eff off and die as long as I am all right Jack," attitude of which there are several on this forum judging by their postings on the forum.)
As I said, Hitler has copyright on your proposed policy. He started with deportations, the killing was a reaction to the inevitable result of such.

He also has copyright on the Ein Volk phrase which looks very similar to the disgusting policy you are advocating



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Oct 12 2017, 09:42 AM
As I said, Hitler has copyright on your proposed policy. He started with deportations, the killing was a reaction to the inevitable result of such.

He also has copyright on the Ein Volk phrase which looks very similar to the disgusting policy you are advocating



Just what is your solution then, because as time passes any solution is going to get even more drastic.
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papasmurf
Oct 12 2017, 09:49 AM
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Oct 12 2017, 09:42 AM
As I said, Hitler has copyright on your proposed policy. He started with deportations, the killing was a reaction to the inevitable result of such.

He also has copyright on the Ein Volk phrase which looks very similar to the disgusting policy you are advocating



Just what is your solution then, because as time passes any solution is going to get even more drastic.
Well maybe we could start with deporting anyone that claims the UK can only support 22 million. No one wants to hear such idiot whining. ;-)


Seriously we have to get back to living with a stable population rather than the Ponzi scheme governments have pursued for decades of loading an increasing working age population so they can be taxed to support the elderly. Elements of that include ending mass immigration, removing incentives on third or more children and focusing healthcare of quality of life not extension of life.


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Oct 12 2017, 09:35 AM
Steve K
Oct 12 2017, 09:27 AM
It's not your solution, Hitler has copyright on it

I am suggesting deportation not extermination. Just what is your solution to get the population of Britain back down to the carrying capacity before nature does it the hard way?
(By the way this has eff all to do with my thread opener. It is about callous bastards at a personal level, with the "everyone else can eff off and die as long as I am all right Jack," attitude of which there are several on this forum judging by their postings on the forum.)
I brought this point up in relation to the OP. You see others as callous because of thier political viewpoints but don't seem able to grasp that some people can and do take the same view as you as a result of your political viewpoints.

The point is you should make more of an effort to understand the other person's viewpoint instead of making knee jerk judgements and dismissing them as "callous bastards".
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Oct 12 2017, 09:49 AM
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Oct 12 2017, 09:42 AM
As I said, Hitler has copyright on your proposed policy. He started with deportations, the killing was a reaction to the inevitable result of such.

He also has copyright on the Ein Volk phrase which looks very similar to the disgusting policy you are advocating



Just what is your solution then, because as time passes any solution is going to get even more drastic.
I offered an alternative solution, which was identical to yours except that it would involve putting people like you in cattle trucks instead of people like me.

Suddenly the desperate need to do something about over population didn't seem quite so urgent and those advocating it had gone from being practical to being callous. Funny that.
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BRITS ABROAD: THE TOP COUNTRIES
Country nameResident Britons
Australia1,300,000
Spain761,000
United States678,000
Canada603,000
Ireland291,000
New Zealand215,000
South Africa212,000
France200,000
5.5 million Brits reside permanently abroad.
Brits Abroad
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To tell you the truth..I don't know what he means by ''callous bastards'' Is it racist??
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Oct 12 2017, 01:34 PM
BRITS ABROAD: THE TOP COUNTRIES
Country nameResident Britons
Australia1,300,000
Spain761,000
United States678,000
Canada603,000
Ireland291,000
New Zealand215,000
South Africa212,000
France200,000
5.5 million Brits reside permanently abroad.
Brits Abroad
:thumbsup: amazing

And just think what would happen if they all came back or even just 10% of them. So so many ex pat Brits are of the classic stereotype of constantly running down the UK there would a national epidemic of face filling to shut them up
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Oct 12 2017, 01:57 PM
To tell you the truth..I don't know what he means by ''callous bastards'' Is it racist??
IMHO not unless he applies it to an ethnically definable group

But that OP was pointlessly obscure wasn't it.
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Oct 12 2017, 01:59 PM
marybrown
Oct 12 2017, 01:57 PM
To tell you the truth..I don't know what he means by ''callous bastards'' Is it racist??
IMHO not unless he applies it to an ethnically definable group

But that OP was pointlessly obscure wasn't it.
Still wondering..
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Oct 12 2017, 10:32 AM
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Oct 12 2017, 10:14 AM
IF he said that then I would

But having looked at what he actually has said then I severely doubt you can back that post ^ with a link

Can you?
He backs people who have. Plus he is patron of the Optimum Population Trust

https://www.populationmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/population_problem_uk.pdf
So typical. Post a PDF which does not contain any reference to David Attenburgh. You just waste everyone's time with your 4 page PDF.
Where has David Attenburgh said that the UK can only support 21 million?
He hasn't has he, because it is nonsense. I have no idea what we can support, but if you mean without importing food, that's different.
Large swathes of the country, especially Scotland, are empty. So is much of South West England. So is much of East Anglia.
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OK, just realised I was beaten to it and you've been well and truly called out on this one, PS, I should have read further down the thread before replying!
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Oct 12 2017, 04:56 PM
OK, just realised I was beaten to it and you've been well and truly called out on this one, PS, I should have read further down the thread before replying!
Yep

And action has now been taken
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Firstly I thin k we all know what PS means when he refers to callous bastards. There are those without a doubt who are selfish and heartless. IMO not that many really, probably about the same amount as those who live on benefits as a lifestyle so maybe they cancel each other out.

Secondly, good call HH on the “we have to deport 38milion people to reach carrying capacity”. First off are there really 38 million people living in the UK who are not indigenous? I doubt it. I think your idea of getting rid of the feckless is best. Same problem with both approaches though, who would be foolish enough to take them? So surely that makes it a moot point.

Finally. Can anyone SUCCINTLY and with decent verification say what the UK’s carrying capacity actually is?
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