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Kevin Spacey
Topic Started: Nov 10 2017, 03:38 PM (892 Views)
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Brian Cranston, a respected actor, has said that he believes that Mr. Spacey's career is over.

I think he's right.

For allegations that he drunkenly made a pass at a 14-yr old. This has ballooned into various other men and women who have worked with Spacey on various projects including the current "House Of Cards" (that Netflix have abandoned immediately), also alleging that he's some sort of Rolf Harris type who groped people at any opportunity. Nothing is proven, nothing has been tested in the courts.

Literally, this man is on the edge of being erased from existence because of unproven allegations.

I wonder how long it will be before they remove his star from the Hollywood walk of fame and withdraw his KBE?
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThe evidential test
Is a conviction more likely than not based on the evidence? .

Only when the evidential test is approved is the next stage opened.If the evidential test fails the process is halted.
The public interest test

The more serious an alleged offence or more vulnerable the victim the more likely it will be that a prosecution is required in the public interest.
Prosecution is less likely to be approved if, for example, a court would be likely to award a minimal penalty

From what I have seen from the press reports none of these allegations have made it past a report to the police and many are only reported to press but all male alleged perpetrators are named. Trial by media is happening well before charges are even laid so no trial in law is on the timeline . Careers are being ruined for no ''proven'' reason. 20 year old allegations against men who are not in the public eye would not involve being named in extensive press reports .

Apart from presence at a police interview and advising their client, solicitors will not be engaging with the media in any meaningful way. A defendant is not generally named by the police until their first court appearance after charging. Before that appearance police will usually refer only to an arrest or charge involving ''a 30 year old male'' or whatever.

If a prosecution for a serious criminal offence and a court trial results then the CPS will be fully lawyered up with top counsel appointed to prosecute the state's case.

Any criminal defendant is entitled to legal aid to help to defend their case and top counsel may be appointed to represent them. Criminal Defendants , are means tested and assessed for financial contributions towards their legal costs. I recall reading that at least one of the not guilty national radio DJs dragged through the courts had to sell his house.

DJ Dave Lee Travis sold his sprawling house in Mentmore and moved to a small bungalow in Buckland to pay for his successful defence against claims he indecently assaulted young women.

Criminal law is not skewed in favour of the rich and powerful . Far from it.

http://www.bucksherald.co.uk/news/how-dlt-downsized-to-buckland-to-pay-huge-legal-fees-1-5875339http://www.rebelcircus.com/blog/famous-people-who-got-away-with-crimes/"loophole lawyer".

Nick Freeman is a solicitor who specialises in road traffic cases and is extremely good at his job because does his homework extremely thoroughly and double checks everything.

Road traffic laws (primary and secondary) and permissions are checked to ensure that every I is dotted and every t crossed to ensure that the alleged offender has been properly charged according to the laws of England and Wales before a case even gets to court. In court the defendant's case is properly presented. Sometimes he wins , sometimes he loses.

Access to his firm's services is not restricted to the rich and famous, anyone can engage the services of his Manchester based firm


www.rebelcircus.com/blog/famous-people-who-got-away-with-crimes
The CPS can and does use the ''finest'' legal minds and whether or not you engage Mr Freeman's firm to represent you in a road traffic action might well depend on how much you value your driving licence. I have no idea as to his charges.

You need a meticulous solicitor in such road traffic cases.

Meticulous research , not necessarily expensive research
So do you think it's just a coincidence that some solicitors charge a lot, lot more than others for their services?
Since when do all plumbers, electricians, cake makers, decorators , dentists , driving instructors, dog walkers etc etc charge the same fees for their services?
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThe evidential test
Is a conviction more likely than not based on the evidence? .

Only when the evidential test is approved is the next stage opened.If the evidential test fails the process is halted.
The public interest test

The more serious an alleged offence or more vulnerable the victim the more likely it will be that a prosecution is required in the public interest.
Prosecution is less likely to be approved if, for example, a court would be likely to award a minimal penalty

From what I have seen from the press reports none of these allegations have made it past a report to the police and many are only reported to press but all male alleged perpetrators are named. Trial by media is happening well before charges are even laid so no trial in law is on the timeline . Careers are being ruined for no ''proven'' reason. 20 year old allegations against men who are not in the public eye would not involve being named in extensive press reports .

Apart from presence at a police interview and advising their client, solicitors will not be engaging with the media in any meaningful way. A defendant is not generally named by the police until their first court appearance after charging. Before that appearance police will usually refer only to an arrest or charge involving ''a 30 year old male'' or whatever.

If a prosecution for a serious criminal offence and a court trial results then the CPS will be fully lawyered up with top counsel appointed to prosecute the state's case.

Any criminal defendant is entitled to legal aid to help to defend their case and top counsel may be appointed to represent them. Criminal Defendants , are means tested and assessed for financial contributions towards their legal costs. I recall reading that at least one of the not guilty national radio DJs dragged through the courts had to sell his house.

DJ Dave Lee Travis sold his sprawling house in Mentmore and moved to a small bungalow in Buckland to pay for his successful defence against claims he indecently assaulted young women.

Criminal law is not skewed in favour of the rich and powerful . Far from it.

http://www.bucksherald.co.uk/news/how-dlt-downsized-to-buckland-to-pay-huge-legal-fees-1-5875339http://www.rebelcircus.com/blog/famous-people-who-got-away-with-crimes/"loophole lawyer".

Nick Freeman is a solicitor who specialises in road traffic cases and is extremely good at his job because does his homework extremely thoroughly and double checks everything.

Road traffic laws (primary and secondary) and permissions are checked to ensure that every I is dotted and every t crossed to ensure that the alleged offender has been properly charged according to the laws of England and Wales before a case even gets to court. In court the defendant's case is properly presented. Sometimes he wins , sometimes he loses.

Access to his firm's services is not restricted to the rich and famous, anyone can engage the services of his Manchester based firm


www.rebelcircus.com/blog/famous-people-who-got-away-with-crimes
So do you think it's just a coincidence that some solicitors charge a lot, lot more than others for their services?
Since when do all plumbers, electricians, cake makers, decorators , dentists , driving instructors, dog walkers etc etc charge the same fees?
No, some can charge a lot more than others because they are much better at what they do than others in their field.

So it also goes with lawyers. The better your lawyer the better your chances of a favourable outcome. Being as the better lawyers charge a lot more for their services they tend to end up representing rich people who are the only ones who can afford them.

Hence the justice system being skewed in favour of the rich.
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Nov 12 2017, 10:34 AM
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Nov 12 2017, 07:47 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThe evidential test
Is a conviction more likely than not based on the evidence? .

Only when the evidential test is approved is the next stage opened.If the evidential test fails the process is halted.
The public interest test

The more serious an alleged offence or more vulnerable the victim the more likely it will be that a prosecution is required in the public interest.
Prosecution is less likely to be approved if, for example, a court would be likely to award a minimal penalty

From what I have seen from the press reports none of these allegations have made it past a report to the police and many are only reported to press but all male alleged perpetrators are named. Trial by media is happening well before charges are even laid so no trial in law is on the timeline . Careers are being ruined for no ''proven'' reason. 20 year old allegations against men who are not in the public eye would not involve being named in extensive press reports .

Apart from presence at a police interview and advising their client, solicitors will not be engaging with the media in any meaningful way. A defendant is not generally named by the police until their first court appearance after charging. Before that appearance police will usually refer only to an arrest or charge involving ''a 30 year old male'' or whatever.

If a prosecution for a serious criminal offence and a court trial results then the CPS will be fully lawyered up with top counsel appointed to prosecute the state's case.

Any criminal defendant is entitled to legal aid to help to defend their case and top counsel may be appointed to represent them. Criminal Defendants , are means tested and assessed for financial contributions towards their legal costs. I recall reading that at least one of the not guilty national radio DJs dragged through the courts had to sell his house.

DJ Dave Lee Travis sold his sprawling house in Mentmore and moved to a small bungalow in Buckland to pay for his successful defence against claims he indecently assaulted young women.

Criminal law is not skewed in favour of the rich and powerful . Far from it.

http://www.bucksherald.co.uk/news/how-dlt-downsized-to-buckland-to-pay-huge-legal-fees-1-5875339http://www.rebelcircus.com/blog/famous-people-who-got-away-with-crimes/"loophole lawyer".

Nick Freeman is a solicitor who specialises in road traffic cases and is extremely good at his job because does his homework extremely thoroughly and double checks everything.

Road traffic laws (primary and secondary) and permissions are checked to ensure that every I is dotted and every t crossed to ensure that the alleged offender has been properly charged according to the laws of England and Wales before a case even gets to court. In court the defendant's case is properly presented. Sometimes he wins , sometimes he loses.

Access to his firm's services is not restricted to the rich and famous, anyone can engage the services of his Manchester based firm


www.rebelcircus.com/blog/famous-people-who-got-away-with-crimes
Since when do all plumbers, electricians, cake makers, decorators , dentists , driving instructors, dog walkers etc etc charge the same fees?
No, some can charge a lot more than others because they are much better at what they do than others in their field.

So it also goes with lawyers. The better your lawyer the better your chances of a favourable outcome. Being as the better lawyers charge a lot more for their services they tend to end up representing rich people who are the only ones who can afford them.

Hence the justice system being skewed in favour of the rich.
The better your lawyer the better your chances of a favourable outcome

Magistrates and juries decide verdicts of cases based on the facts , not the solicitor , barrister or other representative engaged

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Magistrates and juries decide verdicts of cases based on the facts , not the solicitor , barrister or other representative engaged

In an ideal world, in the real world, skilled representation gives a far better chance of winning your case.
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Magistrates and juries decide verdicts of cases based on the facts , not the solicitor , barrister or other representative engaged

In an ideal world, in the real world, skilled representation gives a far better chance of winning your case.
Precisely.
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Magistrates and juries decide verdicts of cases based on the facts , not the solicitor , barrister or other representative engaged

In an ideal world, in the real world, skilled representation gives a far better chance of winning your case.
Precisely.
Freeman & Co are positively anal about the 7Ps for road traffic defences

Thus many of their publicised courtroom successes were ''won'' at their office desks well before trial, any lawyer similarly meticulous about their case preparation can do the same

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And in addition:

. . . Nick Freeman is a solicitor who specialises in road traffic cases and is extremely good at his job because does his homework extremely thoroughly and double checks everything.

Road traffic laws (primary and secondary) and permissions are checked to ensure that every I is dotted and every t crossed to ensure that the alleged offender has been properly charged according to the laws of England and Wales before a case even gets to court. In court the defendant's case is properly presented. Sometimes he wins , sometimes he loses.

Access to his firm's services is not restricted to the rich and famous, anyone can engage the services of his Manchester based firm . .
Yes but lets get real

Nick Freeman's essentially one solicitor firm didn't get to have £700k cash in the bank and turn £270k profit a year (after salaries etc) by doing most of their work on the cheap

Nick Freeman's last accounts
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And in addition:

. . . Nick Freeman is a solicitor who specialises in road traffic cases and is extremely good at his job because does his homework extremely thoroughly and double checks everything.

Road traffic laws (primary and secondary) and permissions are checked to ensure that every I is dotted and every t crossed to ensure that the alleged offender has been properly charged according to the laws of England and Wales before a case even gets to court. In court the defendant's case is properly presented. Sometimes he wins , sometimes he loses.

Access to his firm's services is not restricted to the rich and famous, anyone can engage the services of his Manchester based firm . .
Yes but lets get real

Nick Freeman's essentially one solicitor firm didn't get to have £700k cash in the bank and turn £270k profit a year (after salaries etc) by doing most of their work on the cheap

Nick Freeman's last accounts
But, it is possible.

https://news.sky.com/story/lawyer-phil-shiners-misconduct-proven-over-false-abuse-claims-10753190
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And in addition:

. . . Nick Freeman is a solicitor who specialises in road traffic cases and is extremely good at his job because does his homework extremely thoroughly and double checks everything.

Road traffic laws (primary and secondary) and permissions are checked to ensure that every I is dotted and every t crossed to ensure that the alleged offender has been properly charged according to the laws of England and Wales before a case even gets to court. In court the defendant's case is properly presented. Sometimes he wins , sometimes he loses.

Access to his firm's services is not restricted to the rich and famous, anyone can engage the services of his Manchester based firm . .
Yes but lets get real

Nick Freeman's essentially one solicitor firm didn't get to have £700k cash in the bank and turn £270k profit a year (after salaries etc) by doing most of their work on the cheap

Nick Freeman's last accounts
Link doesn't work and I have no idea how many fee earners there are at the firm

He's specialised in a niche area and marketed the firm well

Apparently he usually first meets a client at the courtroom door - well after the backroom work has been completed

I read that he also fronts a service where those with NIPs or other traffic offence notifications who do not want to use Freeman's services can be put in touch with other approved solicitors

Good luck to him
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Magistrates and juries decide verdicts of cases based on the facts , not the solicitor , barrister or other representative engaged

Are you deliberately avoiding the very clear point someone else is making here?  ::)

High profile (and expensive) lawyers with a proven track record of swaying jurors will often be beyond the financial means of most ordinary folks, why are you pretending otherwise?
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Magistrates and juries decide verdicts of cases based on the facts , not the solicitor , barrister or other representative engaged

Are you deliberately avoiding the very clear point someone else is making here?  ::)

High profile (and expensive) lawyers with a proven track record of swaying jurors will often be beyond the financial means of most ordinary folks, why are you pretending otherwise?
I'm avoiding nothing, others are avoiding the simple fact that legal actions are decided on the applicable law , nothing else. Once the applicable law is correctly identified it can be applied to the facts of a case and magistrates/jury decide the verdict.

Prosecutions under road traffic laws have written detailed procedure to be followed in primary and secondary legislation if there is to be a correct prosecution of a defendant

If those detailed legal procedures are not followed or have been incorrectly applied then any prosecution made under them must fail because the law used in a prosecution is inapplicable or invalid.

Would you really want to be improperly prosecuted? I wouldn't.

A meticulous lawyer checks that every t is crossed and every I dotted on every page of paperwork. Some solicitors specialise in road traffic offences and do it well so they attract clients who prize their driving licence.

As I've posted the 7 Ps
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I'm avoiding nothing, others are avoiding the simple fact that legal actions are decided on the applicable law , nothing else. Once the applicable law is correctly identified it can be applied to the facts of a case and magistrates/jury decide the verdict.

Prosecutions under road traffic laws have written detailed procedure to be followed in primary and secondary legislation if there is to be a correct prosecution of a defendant

If those detailed legal procedures are not followed or have been incorrectly applied then any prosecution made under them must fail because the law used in a prosecution is inapplicable or invalid.

Would you really want to be improperly prosecuted? I wouldn't.

A meticulous lawyer checks that every t is crossed and every I dotted on every page of paperwork. Some solicitors specialise in road traffic offences and do it well so they attract clients who prize their driving licence.

As I've posted the 7 Ps
Why have side tracked into motoring offences? (Especially when effectively access to legal representation for the majority of the population has been removed by the current government due to massive cuts to legal aid.)
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I'm avoiding nothing, others are avoiding the simple fact that legal actions are decided on the applicable law , nothing else. Once the applicable law is correctly identified it can be applied to the facts of a case and magistrates/jury decide the verdict.



Don't act dumb because we know you are not dumb.

And please drop the patronising stance, it's pretty obvious why some pay a fortune for the services of well known lawyers with fearsome reputations, if you like I'll buy you a subscription to Private Eye and you can catch up on the latest legal comings and goings in the world of the rich and famous. :)
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Why have side tracked into motoring offences? (Especially when effectively access to legal representation for the majority of the population has been removed by the current government due to massive cuts to legal aid.)[/quote]In motoring terms, it's a diversion.

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I'm avoiding nothing, others are avoiding the simple fact that legal actions are decided on the applicable law , nothing else. Once the applicable law is correctly identified it can be applied to the facts of a case and magistrates/jury decide the verdict.



Don't act dumb because we know you are not dumb.

And please drop the patronising stance, it's pretty obvious why some pay a fortune for the services of well known lawyers with fearsome reputations, if you like I'll buy you a subscription to Private Eye and you can catch up on the latest legal comings and goings in the world of the rich and famous. :)
You don't like facts?

Here's another , ''most'' people have DAS (or similar)legal expenses cover attached to their household/car policy

At the very least it gives them access to a legal help line FOC
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Here's another , ''most'' people have DAS (or similar)legal expenses cover attached to their household/car policy

At the very least it gives them access to a legal help line FOC
That is of no help at all, in criminal, benefits related or medical negligence cases.
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I'm avoiding nothing, others are avoiding the simple fact that legal actions are decided on the applicable law , nothing else. Once the applicable law is correctly identified it can be applied to the facts of a case and magistrates/jury decide the verdict.



Don't act dumb because we know you are not dumb.

And please drop the patronising stance, it's pretty obvious why some pay a fortune for the services of well known lawyers with fearsome reputations, if you like I'll buy you a subscription to Private Eye and you can catch up on the latest legal comings and goings in the world of the rich and famous. :)
You don't like facts?

Here's another , ''most'' people have DAS (or similar)legal expenses cover attached to their household/car policy

At the very least it gives them access to a legal help line FOC
Well done! I make that three times you've avoided answering the question head on. :)

Next time I get nicked doing 35 in a 30 I'll seek out Cherie Booth QC.

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You don't like facts?

Here's another , ''most'' people have DAS (or similar)legal expenses cover attached to their household/car policy

At the very least it gives them access to a legal help line FOC
Well done! I make that three times you've avoided answering the question head on. :)

Next time I get nicked doing 35 in a 30 I'll seek out Cherie Booth QC.

Cherie Booth?
Waste of money
Road traffic law has never been her field
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Road traffic law has never been her field
But by no stretch of the imagination are sexual offences anything to do with traffic law.
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Well done! I make that three times you've avoided answering the question head on. :)

Next time I get nicked doing 35 in a 30 I'll seek out Cherie Booth QC.

Cherie Booth?
Waste of money
Road traffic law has never been her field
Looks like we are in PH1 territory now! ;D

So to summarise if you are poor or on a middle income you won't be able to afford a high profile lawyer to dig you out of a hole!
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Cherie Booth?
Waste of money
Road traffic law has never been her field
Looks like we are in PH1 territory now! ;D

So to summarise if you are poor or on a middle income you won't be able to afford a high profile lawyer to dig you out of a hole!
That's the wild generalisation you have posted with no evidence and plenty of unfounded assumption

(what is PH1?)
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Well done! I make that three times you've avoided answering the question head on. :)

Next time I get nicked doing 35 in a 30 I'll seek out Cherie Booth QC.

Cherie Booth?
Waste of money
Road traffic law has never been her field
Her speciality has been sticking up for immigrants....hence Tony's policy of open borders.
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Looks like we are in PH1 territory now! ;D

So to summarise if you are poor or on a middle income you won't be able to afford a high profile lawyer to dig you out of a hole!
That's the wild generalisation you have posted with no evidence and plenty of unfounded assumption

(what is PH1?)
My vans just got nicked and my accounts were in there somewhere, unfortunately I'm having a go at self assessment and it's nearly the end of January. I'm totally legit, honest!

Can you recommend me a tax barrister to keep the revenue at bay whilst I get creative? I could possibly stretch to say thirty quid an hour, but only for the first day.............

PH1. Former member with an almost endearing method of not giving a straight answer to a straight question. :)
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Cherie Booth?
Waste of money
Road traffic law has never been her field
Her speciality has been sticking up for immigrants....hence Tony's policy of open borders.
And employment law plus a few other odds and sods, Google, wonderful thing.
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And in addition:

. . . Nick Freeman is a solicitor who specialises in road traffic cases and is extremely good at his job because does his homework extremely thoroughly and double checks everything.

Road traffic laws (primary and secondary) and permissions are checked to ensure that every I is dotted and every t crossed to ensure that the alleged offender has been properly charged according to the laws of England and Wales before a case even gets to court. In court the defendant's case is properly presented. Sometimes he wins , sometimes he loses.

Access to his firm's services is not restricted to the rich and famous, anyone can engage the services of his Manchester based firm . .
Yes but lets get real

Nick Freeman's essentially one solicitor firm didn't get to have £700k cash in the bank and turn £270k profit a year (after salaries etc) by doing most of their work on the cheap

Nick Freeman's last accounts
Link doesn't work and I have no idea how many fee earners there are at the firm

He's specialised in a niche area and marketed the firm well

Apparently he usually first meets a client at the courtroom door - well after the backroom work has been completed

I read that he also fronts a service where those with NIPs or other traffic offence notifications who do not want to use Freeman's services can be put in touch with other approved solicitors

Good luck to him
Link still works here. And you can drill down to the same info via companies house here https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06527671/filing-history

He's making a mint by charging big fees and you know it. This whole myth that worthwhile legal representation is freely available on some magic legal tree makes magic money trees seem like serious ideas

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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepNick Freeman's last accounts
Link doesn't work and I have no idea how many fee earners there are at the firm

He's specialised in a niche area and marketed the firm well

Apparently he usually first meets a client at the courtroom door - well after the backroom work has been completed

I read that he also fronts a service where those with NIPs or other traffic offence notifications who do not want to use Freeman's services can be put in touch with other approved solicitors

Good luck to him
Link still works here. And you can drill down to the same info via companies house here https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06527671/filing-history

He's making a mint by charging big fees and you know it. This whole myth that worthwhile legal representation is freely available on some magic legal tree makes magic money trees seem like serious ideas

Link still works here

I get this:


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Steve K
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Try the drill down? It's the first report in the documents listed for his company
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Steve K
Nov 12 2017, 09:46 PM
Ewill
Nov 12 2017, 04:08 PM
Steve K
Nov 12 2017, 03:45 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepNick Freeman's last accounts
Link doesn't work and I have no idea how many fee earners there are at the firm

He's specialised in a niche area and marketed the firm well

Apparently he usually first meets a client at the courtroom door - well after the backroom work has been completed

I read that he also fronts a service where those with NIPs or other traffic offence notifications who do not want to use Freeman's services can be put in touch with other approved solicitors

Good luck to him
Link still works here. And you can drill down to the same info via companies house here https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06527671/filing-history

He's making a mint by charging big fees and you know it. This whole myth that worthwhile legal representation is freely available on some magic legal tree makes magic money trees seem like serious ideas

Those who don't like the idea of paying a professional to ensure that threats to their driving licence are defended can join Chauffeurplan or similar (circa £85-£299 pa)
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Steve K
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Try the drill down? It's the first report in the documents listed for his company
will do
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Just heard on the news another 20 men have come forward with allegations against Spacey, three are talking to the police. All were said to worked at the Old Vic.
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Jessamy Bride
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This sort of thing is happening now, today....... to vulnerable people all across the land....and it needs to be sorted.

I just think they should be starting with the present........ and working backwards towards historical.

I wouldn't like to think large numbers of police are being tied up in the pursuit of high profile figures
when we need them with their noses to the ground.... right now.

Go after him by all means... but where is our reassurance that they are not glory seeking... when they need to be policing and protecting ordinary people from this type of damage.
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Aled Jones has recently been accused...and has been banned by the BBC pending investigations..
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