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Ratko Mladic convicted of Bosnian murders
Topic Started: Nov 22 2017, 11:11 AM (566 Views)
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finally http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42080090

Sentence to Life but it won't bring back the thousands he killed or the scars Bosnia will take a century to heal - if it's allowed to

I hope rats slowly eat him in his cell
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Indeed. Although Yugoslavia had a chequered history before Tito banged heads together and subdued the historic hatred it was still a civilised European country before its break up and civil war(s).
It underlines ( to me at least) that given the same circumstances in the UK ( and Canada🙄) there would be no shortage of home grown Mladics and other mass murderers.
That’s why I am slightly sickened when some people paint the people in middle Eastern wars as lesser beings than people in Surrey or Buckinghamshire. If there were political unrest here (and I repeat Canada)as severe as the unrest in Yugoslavia or the Middle East then the severity of violence would be exactly the same ...imo...
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Well, that's good news!

Too late for tens of thousands, though.
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Nov 22 2017, 08:19 PM
Indeed. Although Yugoslavia had a chequered history before Tito banged heads together and subdued the historic hatred it was still a civilised European country before its break up and civil war(s).
It underlines ( to me at least) that given the same circumstances in the UK ( and Canada🙄) there would be no shortage of home grown Mladics and other mass murderers.
That’s why I am slightly sickened when some people paint the people in middle Eastern wars as lesser beings than people in Surrey or Buckinghamshire. If there were political unrest here (and I repeat Canada)as severe as the unrest in Yugoslavia or the Middle East then the severity of violence would be exactly the same ...imo...
You must know some horrible secret about ourselves that we don't . Canadians say "sorry" when they walk into a lamp post. Somehow, I can't visualize us building death camps for each other. Americans, yes. They've already done that.(see: Andersonville Georgia) . We're all pretty "middling" here and those who are politically passionate and violent are fringe and marginal and usually the butt of humour.

You really need to come for a visit.
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It underlines ( to me at least) that given the same circumstances in the UK ( and Canada🙄) there would be no shortage of home grown Mladics and other mass murderers.
Judging by some people on internet forums I came to the conclusion a long time ago there would be no lack of volunteers for death squads in Britain, or for a latter day Aktion T4.
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A bit off topic I know but is there any chance George W and Tony Blair could be brought to account for you know what at The Hague. The slaughter in Serbia was small compared to the disaster in Iraq.
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It underlines ( to me at least) that given the same circumstances in the UK ( and Canada🙄) there would be no shortage of home grown Mladics and other mass murderers.
Judging by some people on internet forums I came to the conclusion a long time ago there would be no lack of volunteers for death squads in Britain, or for a latter day Aktion T4.
That's a bit rich coming from you considering some of the things that you have said you would like to do to certain people and some of that included summary executions.

And, if I recall correctly you have said that you could easily call upon others to carry out what is tantamount to vigilantism.
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The Idea that Britain is above committing atrocities is fanciful thinking. Ask the Irish or the Boers. You don’t have to be a Nazi to do the unthinkable.
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And, if I recall correctly you have said that you could easily call upon others to carry out what is tantamount to vigilantism.
I have done no such thing.
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finally http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42080090

Sentence to Life but it won't bring back the thousands he killed or the scars Bosnia will take a century to heal - if it's allowed to

I hope rats slowly eat him in his cell
Only taken the Hague legal folks 30 or so years to declare the obvious - I wonder how much the judges and lawyers, and ancillary folk made out of the case(s)? {Probably into the $millions] - I bet it does come out of Mladic's pocket.

At least the surviving relatives and close friends of his victims get some sort of closure.
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Indeed. Although Yugoslavia had a chequered history before Tito banged heads together and subdued the historic hatred it was still a civilised European country before its break up and civil war(s).
It underlines ( to me at least) that given the same circumstances in the UK ( and Canada🙄) there would be no shortage of home grown Mladics and other mass murderers.
That’s why I am slightly sickened when some people paint the people in middle Eastern wars as lesser beings than people in Surrey or Buckinghamshire. If there were political unrest here (and I repeat Canada)as severe as the unrest in Yugoslavia or the Middle East then the severity of violence would be exactly the same ...imo...
You must know some horrible secret about ourselves that we don't . Canadians say "sorry" when they walk into a lamp post. Somehow, I can't visualize us building death camps for each other. Americans, yes. They've already done that.(see: Andersonville Georgia) . We're all pretty "middling" here and those who are politically passionate and violent are fringe and marginal and usually the butt of humour.

You really need to come for a visit.

Canada is a prosperous and stable country but it is full of human beings and human beings can become monsters...even Canadian ones.
Given the right circumstances you and the other Canucks would fight each other like rats in a sack.
Don’t kid yourself otherwise...
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It underlines ( to me at least) that given the same circumstances in the UK ( and Canada🙄) there would be no shortage of home grown Mladics and other mass murderers.
Judging by some people on internet forums I came to the conclusion a long time ago there would be no lack of volunteers for death squads in Britain, or for a latter day Aktion T4.


Well iirc you have suggested that murdering IDC not a bad idea...so count yourself amongst them.
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Indeed. Although Yugoslavia had a chequered history before Tito banged heads together and subdued the historic hatred it was still a civilised European country before its break up and civil war(s).
It underlines ( to me at least) that given the same circumstances in the UK ( and Canada🙄) there would be no shortage of home grown Mladics and other mass murderers.
That’s why I am slightly sickened when some people paint the people in middle Eastern wars as lesser beings than people in Surrey or Buckinghamshire. If there were political unrest here (and I repeat Canada)as severe as the unrest in Yugoslavia or the Middle East then the severity of violence would be exactly the same ...imo...
You must know some horrible secret about ourselves that we don't . Canadians say "sorry" when they walk into a lamp post. Somehow, I can't visualize us building death camps for each other. Americans, yes. They've already done that.(see: Andersonville Georgia) . We're all pretty "middling" here and those who are politically passionate and violent are fringe and marginal and usually the butt of humour.

You really need to come for a visit.

Canada is a prosperous and stable country but it is full of human beings and human beings can become monsters...even Canadian ones.
Given the right circumstances you and the other Canucks would fight each other like rats in a sack.
Don’t kid yourself otherwise...
We have a very different history to yours and Bosnia's. We are almost all immigrants to this place. The sort of ethnic enclaves with long history of the place and the jingoism that goes with it doesn't really exist, here with the exception of in Quebec. The predominant feeling among the public in Canada about Quebec separating would be like a lot of you feel about Scots separating ...if they're going to go, then go. Quebec is a voluntary member of the Canadian Confederation. It is not the same sort of construct as Yugoslavia was, tribes that have hated each other for millennia cobbled together into an arbitrary country that was meant to be a military buffer zone.
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Canada is a prosperous and stable country but it is full of human beings and human beings can become monsters...even Canadian ones.
Given the right circumstances you and the other Canucks would fight each other like rats in a sack.
Don’t kid yourself otherwise...
We have a very different history to yours and Bosnia's. We are almost all immigrants to this place. The sort of ethnic enclaves with long history of the place and the jingoism that goes with it doesn't really exist, here with the exception of in Quebec. The predominant feeling among the public in Canada about Quebec separating would be like a lot of you feel about Scots separating ...if they're going to go, then go. Quebec is a voluntary member of the Canadian Confederation. It is not the same sort of construct as Yugoslavia was, tribes that have hated each other for millennia cobbled together into an arbitrary country that was meant to be a military buffer zone.

You are completely missing the point or you simply cannot understand that your history has shielded you from becoming the people that produced the likes of Mladic. Mladic and his kind is the product of what came before him . You are other Canucks are no better or worse people than the countries that produced the very worst of ISIS , Nazis or any of the things you think you are superior to...you are just luckier.
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We have a very different history to yours and Bosnia's. We are almost all immigrants to this place. The sort of ethnic enclaves with long history of the place and the jingoism that goes with it doesn't really exist, here with the exception of in Quebec. The predominant feeling among the public in Canada about Quebec separating would be like a lot of you feel about Scots separating ...if they're going to go, then go. Quebec is a voluntary member of the Canadian Confederation. It is not the same sort of construct as Yugoslavia was, tribes that have hated each other for millennia cobbled together into an arbitrary country that was meant to be a military buffer zone.

You are completely missing the point or you simply cannot understand that your history has shielded you from becoming the people that produced the likes of Mladic. Mladic and his kind is the product of what came before him . You are other Canucks are no better or worse people than the countries that produced the very worst of ISIS , Nazis or any of the things you think you are superior to...you are just luckier.
No, YOU are missing the point. The endemic tribalism of all of Europe (including your island) has created the most ultraviolent peoples on the face of this Earth. The genocides in Yugoslavia are normal and natural to Europe and Europeans due to your millennia long tribal chauvinisms ... the latest iteration of which is Brexit.. It is bred deeply into your European souls and you have successfully it all over the planet.

Where will WWIII start? Probably in Europe ...
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You are completely missing the point or you simply cannot understand that your history has shielded you from becoming the people that produced the likes of Mladic. Mladic and his kind is the product of what came before him . You are other Canucks are no better or worse people than the countries that produced the very worst of ISIS , Nazis or any of the things you think you are superior to...you are just luckier.
No, YOU are missing the point. The endemic tribalism of all of Europe (including your island) has created the most ultraviolent people's on the face of this Earth. The genocides in Yugoslavia are normal and natural to Europe and Europeans due to your millennia long tribal chauvinisms ... the latest iteration of which is Brexit.. It is bred deeply into your European souls and you have successfully it all over the planet.

Where will WWIII start? Probably in Europe ...

You forget to mention the European adventurism that resulted in the decline of The indigenous populations of the America’s and the flood of aforesaid Europeans ( your ancestors) into the regions to finish them off and steal their land.
You are the lucky recipient of those nasty Europeans. In fact you are nothing but an extension of them..you can deny it as much as you like ..perhaps this silly demonisation of Europeans is a ploy to detach yourself from that reality.
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No, YOU are missing the point. The endemic tribalism of all of Europe (including your island) has created the most ultraviolent people's on the face of this Earth. The genocides in Yugoslavia are normal and natural to Europe and Europeans due to your millennia long tribal chauvinisms ... the latest iteration of which is Brexit.. It is bred deeply into your European souls and you have successfully it all over the planet.

Where will WWIII start? Probably in Europe ...

You forget to mention the European adventurism that resulted in the decline of The indigenous populations of the America’s and the flood of aforesaid Europeans ( your ancestors) into the regions to finish them off and steal their land.
You are the lucky recipient of those nasty Europeans. In fact you are nothing but an extension of them..you can deny it as much as you like ..perhaps this silly demonisation of Europeans is a ploy to detach yourself from that reality.
The indigenous population was totally wiped out where I live a hundred years before the first settler arrived.They were killed off during another World War between France and England called the Seven Years War and the local natives unluckily sided with the French.

European ultraviolent ... it's stamped on your genes and you cannot shed the curse.
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You forget to mention the European adventurism that resulted in the decline of The indigenous populations of the America’s and the flood of aforesaid Europeans ( your ancestors) into the regions to finish them off and steal their land.
You are the lucky recipient of those nasty Europeans. In fact you are nothing but an extension of them..you can deny it as much as you like ..perhaps this silly demonisation of Europeans is a ploy to detach yourself from that reality.
The indigenous population was totally wiped out where I live a hundred years before the first settler arrived.They were killed off during another World War between France and England called the Seven Years War and the local natives unluckily sided with the French.

European ultraviolent ... it's stamped on your genes and you cannot shed the curse.


Then you are the lucky recipient of a people you pretend to despise. You are just a Pip pretending despise and disassociate himself from Magwitch.
You should be grateful for your European ancestors who facilitated your wealth on the back of dead Indians and not pretend you are not implicated in the crime or a recipient of the crime.
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The indigenous population was totally wiped out where I live a hundred years before the first settler arrived.They were killed off during another World War between France and England called the Seven Years War and the local natives unluckily sided with the French.

European ultraviolent ... it's stamped on your genes and you cannot shed the curse.


Then you are the lucky recipient of a people you pretend to despise. You are just a Pip pretending despise and disassociate himself from Magwitch.
You should be grateful for your European ancestors who facilitated your wealth on the back of dead Indians and not pretend you are not implicated in the crime or a recipient of the crime.
You're proud of your genocides, are you? ... and we should be too?

As I said, it is the default setting of your people to be genocidal. The remarkable thing about the Bosnian massacres is that they happened a half century after the previous, like events. That has to be some sort of a record in the five plus thousand year history of White Europeans.
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Then you are the lucky recipient of a people you pretend to despise. You are just a Pip pretending despise and disassociate himself from Magwitch.
You should be grateful for your European ancestors who facilitated your wealth on the back of dead Indians and not pretend you are not implicated in the crime or a recipient of the crime.
You're proud of your genocides, are you? ... and we should be too?

As I said, it is the default setting of your people to be genocidal. The remarkable thing about the Bosnian massacres is that they happened a half century after the previous, like events. That has to be some sort of a record in the five plus thousand year history of White Europeans.


You sound more and more like the Nation of Islam in every post ..except you want to pick and choose who the white devils are ( not me guv it, the big boys did it and run away).
No matter how much you want to deny it you and the other Canucks ( as well as the resources you hold ) are the result of European imperialism . Europeans took the land from the indigenous population and gave it to you ( in your case you claim indirectly...receiving stolen goods is still a crime ). If this kind of denial is common in Canada I can only think it is because of repressed guilt and the fact that Canada is an irrelevance beside the US has caused a rather large chip to grow on collective shoulders.
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You're proud of your genocides, are you? ... and we should be too?

As I said, it is the default setting of your people to be genocidal. The remarkable thing about the Bosnian massacres is that they happened a half century after the previous, like events. That has to be some sort of a record in the five plus thousand year history of White Europeans.


You sound more and more like the Nation of Islam in every post ..except you want to pick and choose who the white devils are ( not me guv it, the big boys did it and run away).
No matter how much you want to deny it you and the other Canucks ( as well as the resources you hold ) are the result of European imperialism . Europeans took the land from the indigenous population and gave it to you ( in your case you claim indirectly...receiving stolen goods is still a crime ). If this kind of denial is common in Canada I can only think it is because of repressed guilt and the fact that Canada is an irrelevance beside the US has caused a rather large chip to grow on collective shoulders.
No chip. We just don't buy into your bullshyte so readily, anymore and that seems to irk your imperious European asses.
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You sound more and more like the Nation of Islam in every post ..except you want to pick and choose who the white devils are ( not me guv it, the big boys did it and run away).
No matter how much you want to deny it you and the other Canucks ( as well as the resources you hold ) are the result of European imperialism . Europeans took the land from the indigenous population and gave it to you ( in your case you claim indirectly...receiving stolen goods is still a crime ). If this kind of denial is common in Canada I can only think it is because of repressed guilt and the fact that Canada is an irrelevance beside the US has caused a rather large chip to grow on collective shoulders.
No chip. We just don't buy into your bullshyte so readily, anymore and that seems to irk your imperious European asses.


Irk is incorrect. Europeans descendants who profit from European imperialism and pretending otherwise is more sad than irksome. Being irrelevant is not an excuse to excuse yourself from reality.
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We celebrate those throughout history that rebelled against the feudal establishment!
Plutocracy is little different to rule by the land Barons of yesteryear.

Austerity, over taxed minions, corruption in the upper echelons, falling living standards, a massive wealth gap ........ 'it can't happen here again' can it?
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No chip. We just don't buy into your bullshyte so readily, anymore and that seems to irk your imperious European asses.


Irk is incorrect. Europeans descendants who profit from European imperialism and pretending otherwise is more sad than irksome. Being irrelevant is not an excuse to excuse yourself from reality.
You live in a filthy rich country, still coasting on the loot stripped from occupying a quarter of the planet. How dare you blame others.

It's becoming easier to see the roots of Serb genocide as your ire rises with each post. You and your entire European civilization need to take an anger management course.
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We celebrate those throughout history that rebelled against the feudal establishment!
Plutocracy is little different to rule by the land Barons of yesteryear.

Austerity, over taxed minions, corruption in the upper echelons, falling living standards, a massive wealth gap ........ 'it can't happen here again' can it?


More like it will happen.
I suspect that the underclass that it produces will be powerless to do anything about it..in fact I suspect that millions of people will simply be surplus to requirements and the prospect of the masses overturning the privileged few will disappear.
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Irk is incorrect. Europeans descendants who profit from European imperialism and pretending otherwise is more sad than irksome. Being irrelevant is not an excuse to excuse yourself from reality.
You live in a filthy rich country, still coasting on the loot stripped from occupying a quarter of the planet. How dare you blame others.

It's becoming easier to see the roots of Serb genocide as your ire rises with each post. You and your entire European civilization need to take an anger management course.


You live in a filthy rich society too and you have acquired this wealth by being the bastard child of European imperialism. You are the one doing the blaming. I am merely pointing out that you not only aided and abetted the crime..you made away with the loot.
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Canada was a poor country until we became a fully independent one. Stop trying to take credit for our successes.
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Canada was a poor country until we became a fully independent one. Stop trying to take credit for our successes.


So you did well out of land you acquire over the dead bodies of other cultures and given to you..good for you.
That doesn’t give you the right to pretend that you were not the product and still are the product of past European Imperialism.
In fact the fact that you own the land over past indigenous peoples makes you part of a crime against humanity that is far worse than crimes against peoples who prevailed European colonisation with their indigenous populations intact such as India and Kenya.
We should be attempting to disassociate ourselves from you not the other way around.
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Canada was a poor country until we became a fully independent one. Stop trying to take credit for our successes.


So you did well out of land you acquire over the dead bodies of other cultures and given to you..good for you.
That doesn’t give you the right to pretend that you were not the product and still are the product of past European Imperialism.
In fact the fact that you own the land over past indigenous peoples makes you part of a crime against humanity that is far worse than crimes against peoples who prevailed European colonisation with their indigenous populations intact such as India and Kenya.
We should be attempting to disassociate ourselves from you not the other way around.
Would you prefer that we get back into ships and sail to the UK? Should we take back the possessions that we left behind? ... become Europeans, again? ... build death camps for the Britons that we push out of their homes in desperation?

Sounds good to me! If 37 million of us kill all of you off and divvy up the island among ourselves, it won"t be so cramped or claustrophobic, anymore (borrowing a page from your Anglo-Saxon ancestors)
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Canada was a poor country until we became a fully independent one. Stop trying to take credit for our successes.


So you did well out of land you acquire over the dead bodies of other cultures and given to you..good for you.
That doesn’t give you the right to pretend that you were not the product and still are the product of past European Imperialism.
In fact the fact that you own the land over past indigenous peoples makes you part of a crime against humanity that is far worse than crimes against peoples who prevailed European colonisation with their indigenous populations intact such as India and Kenya.
We should be attempting to disassociate ourselves from you not the other way around.
Would you prefer that we get back into ships and sail to the UK? Should we take back the possessions that we left behind? ... become Europeans, again? ... build death camps for the Britons that we push out of their homes in desperation?

Sounds good to me! If 37 million of us kill all of you off and divvy up the island among ourselves, it won"t be so cramped or claustrophobic, anymore (borrowing a page from your Anglo-Saxon ancestors)
No please stay where you are we have enough diversity is strength people here already. Wish you good luck though, by the look of how things are going out there you are going to need it.
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Would you prefer that we get back into ships and sail to the UK? Should we take back the possessions that we left behind? ... become Europeans, again? ... build death camps for the Britons that we push out of their homes in desperation?

Sounds good to me! If 37 million of us kill all of you off and divvy up the island among ourselves, it won"t be so cramped or claustrophobic, anymore (borrowing a page from your Anglo-Saxon ancestors)
No please stay where you are we have enough diversity is strength people here already. Wish you good luck though, by the look of how things are going out there you are going to need it.
You're kidding, right? We're the planet's life boat.
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Canada was a poor country until we became a fully independent one. Stop trying to take credit for our successes.


So you did well out of land you acquire over the dead bodies of other cultures and given to you..good for you.
That doesn’t give you the right to pretend that you were not the product and still are the product of past European Imperialism.
In fact the fact that you own the land over past indigenous peoples makes you part of a crime against humanity that is far worse than crimes against peoples who prevailed European colonisation with their indigenous populations intact such as India and Kenya.
We should be attempting to disassociate ourselves from you not the other way around.
Would you prefer that we get back into ships and sail to the UK? Should we take back the possessions that we left behind? ... become Europeans, again? ... build death camps for the Britons that we push out of their homes in desperation?

Sounds good to me! If 37 million of us kill all of you off and divvy up the island among ourselves, it won"t be so cramped or claustrophobic, anymore (borrowing a page from your Anglo-Saxon ancestors)


Well that’s what effectively happened in the Americas. Europeans killed off the indigenous people and claimed the land for themselves. You and the rest of the white people who populate the Americas are the product of a genocide that Mr Hitler himself would be proud of .
You have profited from genocide but you don’t seem to have the guts to admit it.
I haven’t heard or read any of your BS from Australian or New Zealander’s and I suspect that few Canucks actually think this....unless self loathing and projection is endemic North of the US.
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Would you prefer that we get back into ships and sail to the UK? Should we take back the possessions that we left behind? ... become Europeans, again? ... build death camps for the Britons that we push out of their homes in desperation?

Sounds good to me! If 37 million of us kill all of you off and divvy up the island among ourselves, it won"t be so cramped or claustrophobic, anymore (borrowing a page from your Anglo-Saxon ancestors)


Well that’s what effectively happened in the Americas. Europeans killed off the indigenous people and claimed the land for themselves. You and the rest of the white people who populate the Americas are the product of a genocide that Mr Hitler himself would be proud of .
You have profited from genocide but you don’t seem to have the guts to admit it.
I haven’t heard or read any of your BS from Australian or New Zealander’s and I suspect that few Canucks actually think this....unless self loathing and projection is endemic North of the US.
Yeah, yeah ... We're "just like Hitler"

Get a grip, for gawd's sake!
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Well that’s what effectively happened in the Americas. Europeans killed off the indigenous people and claimed the land for themselves. You and the rest of the white people who populate the Americas are the product of a genocide that Mr Hitler himself would be proud of .
You have profited from genocide but you don’t seem to have the guts to admit it.
I haven’t heard or read any of your BS from Australian or New Zealander’s and I suspect that few Canucks actually think this....unless self loathing and projection is endemic North of the US.
Yeah, yeah ... We're "just like Hitler"

Get a grip, for gawd's sake!


Yup. Those nasty Europeans killed off the indigenous natives very very quickly and with some very wicked methods....and left your ancestors with the spoils. You and your wealth are the result of some very nefarious practices. As said Europeans should be ashamed of you not you of them.
Also I never said you lot were ‘ just like Hitler’ ( sic) . You are more like spoiled brats who deny their true past..or at least one of you is ..

At least the Australians, New Zealander’s and Yanks do not try to pretend that they had nothing to do with the demise of the indigenous population and come out with BS like ‘ there were no natives in my area for ages before I came here cos nasty Europeans killed them off’....I think that they would realise what a risible statement that would be.
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well, as i see it, here is the problem

we don't do "total war" any more. The violence in the former yugoslavia, however it started, gave the on campus imans a perfect excuse to point the finger at the way the UN and NATO were doing fuck all and say "look, see how the infidel gives not a shit when blonde, blue eyed followers of the prophet are slain in their thousands". How then will they react when it is your turn, you who are olive of skin, brown of eye and black of hair ? You know the answer, so rise up and struggle for your faith .....

And the rest, as they say, is history. This act spawned a thousand al-quaeda and isis recruiting sergeants.
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well, as i see it, here is the problem

we don't do "total war" any more. The violence in the former yugoslavia, however it started, gave the on campus imans a perfect excuse to point the finger at the way the UN and NATO were doing fuck all and say "look, see how the infidel gives not a shit when blonde, blue eyed followers of the prophet are slain in their thousands". How then will they react when it is your turn, you who are olive of skin, brown of eye and black of hair ? You know the answer, so rise up and struggle for your faith .....

And the rest, as they say, is history. This act spawned a thousand al-quaeda and isis recruiting sergeants.
The Russian methods of squashing the Checens multiplied that tenfold.
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Canada was a poor country until we became a fully independent one. Stop trying to take credit for our successes.


So you did well out of land you acquire over the dead bodies of other cultures and given to you..good for you.
That doesn’t give you the right to pretend that you were not the product and still are the product of past European Imperialism.
In fact the fact that you own the land over past indigenous peoples makes you part of a crime against humanity that is far worse than crimes against peoples who prevailed European colonisation with their indigenous populations intact such as India and Kenya.
We should be attempting to disassociate ourselves from you not the other way around.
Would you prefer that we get back into ships and sail to the UK? Should we take back the possessions that we left behind? ... become Europeans, again? ... build death camps for the Britons that we push out of their homes in desperation?

Sounds good to me! If 37 million of us kill all of you off and divvy up the island among ourselves, it won"t be so cramped or claustrophobic, anymore (borrowing a page from your Anglo-Saxon ancestors)


Nice idea but it would be beyond your capability. Canucks have made good cannon fonder in the past but none of them are a match for a small ginger Glaswegian😉
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Would you prefer that we get back into ships and sail to the UK? Should we take back the possessions that we left behind? ... become Europeans, again? ... build death camps for the Britons that we push out of their homes in desperation?

Sounds good to me! If 37 million of us kill all of you off and divvy up the island among ourselves, it won"t be so cramped or claustrophobic, anymore (borrowing a page from your Anglo-Saxon ancestors)


Nice idea but it would be beyond your capability. Canucks have made good cannon fonder in the past but none of them are a match for a small ginger Glaswegian😉
You Englishmen prefer to use them as your cannon fodder now, eh?
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Would you prefer that we get back into ships and sail to the UK? Should we take back the possessions that we left behind? ... become Europeans, again? ... build death camps for the Britons that we push out of their homes in desperation?

Sounds good to me! If 37 million of us kill all of you off and divvy up the island among ourselves, it won"t be so cramped or claustrophobic, anymore (borrowing a page from your Anglo-Saxon ancestors)


Nice idea but it would be beyond your capability. Canucks have made good cannon fonder in the past but none of them are a match for a small ginger Glaswegian😉
I'm not taking sides here, but it cannot be denied that Canadian air force men played a vital role in the Battle of Britain as did many other nationalities.
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Nice idea but it would be beyond your capability. Canucks have made good cannon fonder in the past but none of them are a match for a small ginger Glaswegian😉
I'm not taking sides here, but it cannot be denied that Canadian air force men played a vital role in the Battle of Britain as did many other nationalities.
And their Army was vital to the battle for Normandy making huge sacrifices
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