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Water; Spit from Barnier and Plastic threads
Topic Started: Nov 16 2017, 06:13 PM (286 Views)
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Nov 16 2017, 06:02 PM
No idea how you'd expect to get anything 'flown in'' from Pitcairn Island , there's no airport, it's a 4/5 day sail away from Tahiti (with no landing if the weather is ''off''), supplies come by sea from NZ every three months, less than 1000 visitors a year make it there, and even if somehow you arranged the logistics the 50 island residents (including men, women and children-there are plans to increase it to 80 residents) would have to breach the working time directive somewhat to produce much beyond their own immediate needs
:facepalm:

Sometimes a bit of satire goes miles over certain heads.

As transport costs rise, and they will, the World will become more local, eventually it is unlikely to be economic to fly water in from Fiji anymore, and yes that does happen. :)
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Nov 16 2017, 06:02 PM
No idea how you'd expect to get anything 'flown in'' from Pitcairn Island , there's no airport, it's a 4/5 day sail away from Tahiti (with no landing if the weather is ''off''), supplies come by sea from NZ every three months, less than 1000 visitors a year make it there, and even if somehow you arranged the logistics the 50 island residents (including men, women and children-there are plans to increase it to 80 residents) would have to breach the working time directive somewhat to produce much beyond their own immediate needs
:facepalm:

Sometimes a bit of satire goes miles over certain heads.

As transport costs rise, and they will, the World will become more local, eventually it is unlikely to be economic to fly water in from Fiji anymore, and yes that does happen. :)
Satire?

Ignorance of basic geography more like !jk!

Why shouldn't water be imported from Fiji if there is a market for it in 60 countries ?

All good for the Fijian economy and the charitable trust the water company created

http://www.fijiwater.com/company.html
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Nov 16 2017, 08:30 PM
Satire?

Ignorance of basic geography more like !jk!

Why shouldn't water be imported from Fiji if there is a market for it in 60 countries ?

All good for the Fijian economy and the charitable trust the water company created

http://www.fijiwater.com/company.html

Get your water out of the tap love, the quality standards far exceed that of overpriced bacteria laden river water from the Third World.

No need to get forensic either as that was also satire, laced with some sarcasm this time.  ::)
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Nov 16 2017, 10:49 PM
Get your water out of the tap
:nono: you like drinking Chlorine do you?

(but we digress)
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Nov 16 2017, 10:49 PM
Get your water out of the tap
:nono: you like drinking Chlorine do you?

(but we digress)
I prefer chlorine within the legal limits as opposed to various live microbes, bacteria and viruses, yourself? :)

Please don't tell me you've got one of those daft filter taps fitted with a charcoal filter?
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Nov 16 2017, 10:49 PM
Get your water out of the tap
:nono: you like drinking Chlorine do you?

(but we digress)
I prefer chlorine within the legal limits as opposed to various live microbes, bacteria and viruses, yourself? :)

Please don't tell me you've got one of those daft filter taps fitted with a charcoal filter?
Nope, use filter jugs to fill the kettle and drink bottled Buxton and Evian. Your lack of knowledge on microbes is amazing given your plumbing background.

And soft water tastes shite. Even our cats prefer to drink water out of the fish pond than our tap water



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Nov 16 2017, 08:30 PM
Satire?

Ignorance of basic geography more like !jk!

Why shouldn't water be imported from Fiji if there is a market for it in 60 countries ?

All good for the Fijian economy and the charitable trust the water company created

http://www.fijiwater.com/company.html

Get your water out of the tap love, the quality standards far exceed that of overpriced bacteria laden river water from the Third World.

No need to get forensic either as that was also satire, laced with some sarcasm this time.  ::)
Get your water out of the tap love,

On another thread you were adamantly promoting anti sexism towards women

Double standards :rubchin:

Tap water? Treated with chlorine and God knows what else , yuck
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Nov 16 2017, 11:22 PM
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Nov 16 2017, 11:03 PM
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Nov 16 2017, 10:58 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
I prefer chlorine within the legal limits as opposed to various live microbes, bacteria and viruses, yourself? :)

Please don't tell me you've got one of those daft filter taps fitted with a charcoal filter?
Nope, use filter jugs to fill the kettle and drink bottled Buxton and Evian. Your lack of knowledge on microbes is amazing given your plumbing background.

And soft water tastes shite. Even our cats prefer to drink water out of the fish pond than our tap water



:rubchin:

Well if you insist on wasting your money that is up to you! And you should not drink softened water as most softeners leave a small dose of salt in the water after regenerating during the night, bad if you've got a medical condition, you should also have a drinking water tap that comes straight from the rising main and not via the softner, you can even fit a filter on that if you want! Personally I'd not bother

The water that comes out of your tap has to be potable, that means it has a legal requirement to be drinkable without making you ill, now if you Google about the alleged "health benefits" of bottled water you might frighten yourself into giving that cold tap on the sink a bit of a workout. :)
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Nov 16 2017, 11:28 PM
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Nov 16 2017, 10:49 PM
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Nov 16 2017, 08:30 PM
Satire?

Ignorance of basic geography more like !jk!

Why shouldn't water be imported from Fiji if there is a market for it in 60 countries ?

All good for the Fijian economy and the charitable trust the water company created

http://www.fijiwater.com/company.html

Get your water out of the tap love, the quality standards far exceed that of overpriced bacteria laden river water from the Third World.

No need to get forensic either as that was also satire, laced with some sarcasm this time.  ::)
Get your water out of the tap love,

On another thread you were adamantly promoting anti sexism towards women

Double standards :rubchin:

Tap water? Treated with chlorine and God knows what else , yuck
I'm sexist if it warrants it. :)
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Nov 16 2017, 11:28 PM


Tap water? Treated with chlorine and God knows what else , yuck
You'll never guess what leaches out of the PET bottle you drink your Peckham Spring from! !wav!
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Nov 16 2017, 11:22 PM
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Nov 16 2017, 11:03 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
Nope, use filter jugs to fill the kettle and drink bottled Buxton and Evian. Your lack of knowledge on microbes is amazing given your plumbing background.

And soft water tastes shite. Even our cats prefer to drink water out of the fish pond than our tap water



:rubchin:

Well if you insist on wasting your money that is up to you! And you should not drink softened water as most softeners leave a small dose of salt in the water after regenerating during the night, bad if you've got a medical condition, you should also have a drinking water tap that comes straight from the rising main and not via the softner, you can even fit a filter on that if you want! Personally I'd not bother

The water that comes out of your tap has to be potable, that means it has a legal requirement to be drinkable without making you ill, now if you Google about the alleged "health benefits" of bottled water you might frighten yourself into giving that cold tap on the sink a bit of a workout. :)
You don't get 'free' animals with Evian , Perrier , San Pelligrino etc

When surface water is treated, the vast majority of these animals and plants are removed. However there are some occasions when animals and algae can pass through water filters and enter the water distribution system, which conveys water to homes and workplaces.

There are also some harmless animals which live within water mains. On rare occasions these may be noticed by consumers in a glass of water drawn from their tap.

These animals and algae are normally not visible to the naked eye, however certain species such as Asellus (fresh water shrimps) or Chironomids (midge fly larvae) are slightly larger and may be seen without a microscope.

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Just checked my local water supply via https://www.water.org.uk/ , in the past year issues with excess iron and manganese deposits have been recorded

I'll stick to bottled water

http://dwi.defra.gov.uk/consumers/advice-leaflets/animals.pdf
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Even our cats prefer to drink water out of the fish pond than our tap water




Mine too.
His preference, nay addiction, is rain water.
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Nov 16 2017, 11:37 PM
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Nov 16 2017, 11:03 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
Nope, use filter jugs to fill the kettle and drink bottled Buxton and Evian. Your lack of knowledge on microbes is amazing given your plumbing background.

And soft water tastes shite. Even our cats prefer to drink water out of the fish pond than our tap water



:rubchin:

Well if you insist on wasting your money that is up to you! And you should not drink softened water as most softeners leave a small dose of salt in the water after regenerating during the night, bad if you've got a medical condition, you should also have a drinking water tap that comes straight from the rising main and not via the softner, you can even fit a filter on that if you want! Personally I'd not bother

The water that comes out of your tap has to be potable, that means it has a legal requirement to be drinkable without making you ill, now if you Google about the alleged "health benefits" of bottled water you might frighten yourself into giving that cold tap on the sink a bit of a workout. :)
No water softener here, it just is softer than Evian so the taste is wrong

And yes the water out of the tap has to be potable and nothing more. As far as the law goes it can taste like shit and be full of brown stuff from pipe flushing

And decent bottled water is still cheap

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Nov 16 2017, 11:39 PM
I'm sexist if it warrants it. :)
Which on a debating forum is never  nonono:
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You don't get 'free' animals with Evian , Perrier , San Pelligrino etc

!jk!

No you get respectively, benzine, radioactive minerals and lead!

Well done for being a victim of marketing, I thought San Pellagrino was an Italian footballer until I Googled it being taken off the shelves in New York! You actually think untreated water extracted more often than not from a borehole is better than treated tap water! ;D

Ever seen bottled water out in the sun on a pallet? Very dodgy, chemicals from the bottles giving the water a funny taste, you are probably used to it now, mains water through a copper pipe that has mild antiseptic and anti bacterial properties for me? Pah, I'd not flush the bog with bottled water!
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Nov 16 2017, 11:37 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
:rubchin:

Well if you insist on wasting your money that is up to you! And you should not drink softened water as most softeners leave a small dose of salt in the water after regenerating during the night, bad if you've got a medical condition, you should also have a drinking water tap that comes straight from the rising main and not via the softner, you can even fit a filter on that if you want! Personally I'd not bother

The water that comes out of your tap has to be potable, that means it has a legal requirement to be drinkable without making you ill, now if you Google about the alleged "health benefits" of bottled water you might frighten yourself into giving that cold tap on the sink a bit of a workout. :)
No water softener here, it just is softer than Evian so the taste is wrong

And yes the water out of the tap has to be potable and nothing more. As far as the law goes it can taste like shit and be full of brown stuff from pipe flushing

And decent bottled water is still cheap

It's the minerals and other stuff in the water that give it it's taste, were you aware of that? :rubchin:

Softened water is bland tasting because the carbonates have been removed by the softener.
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And yes the water out of the tap has to be potable and nothing more. As far as the law goes it can taste like shit and be full of brown stuff from pipe flushing



If the local pipes are being flushed your water company must warn you, you'll be advised what to do, and do you know anything about the regulations in regards to back flow? :rubchin:
Edited by Tigger, Nov 17 2017, 12:37 AM.
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Nov 16 2017, 11:03 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
I prefer chlorine within the legal limits as opposed to various live microbes, bacteria and viruses, yourself? :)

Please don't tell me you've got one of those daft filter taps fitted with a charcoal filter?
Nope, use filter jugs to fill the kettle and drink bottled Buxton and Evian. Your lack of knowledge on microbes is amazing given your plumbing background.

And soft water tastes shite. Even our cats prefer to drink water out of the fish pond than our tap water



Bugger me, when we were kids we would drink from a stream when thirsty whilst out playing and eat raw potatoes, no wonder people are so prone to everyday illness now.

Fxxxxxg wimps.
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Nov 17 2017, 12:31 AM
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Nov 16 2017, 11:54 PM
You don't get 'free' animals with Evian , Perrier , San Pelligrino etc

!jk!

No you get respectively, benzine, radioactive minerals and lead!

Well done for being a victim of marketing, I thought San Pellagrino was an Italian footballer until I Googled it being taken off the shelves in New York! You actually think untreated water extracted more often than not from a borehole is better than treated tap water! ;D

Ever seen bottled water out in the sun on a pallet? Very dodgy, chemicals from the bottles giving the water a funny taste, you are probably used to it now, mains water through a copper pipe that has mild antiseptic and anti bacterial properties for me? Pah, I'd not flush the bog with bottled water!
being taken off the shelves in New York

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30 years ago

The manganese and excess iron deposits in my local supply has been within the past year
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Nov 17 2017, 12:52 AM
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Nov 17 2017, 12:31 AM
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Nov 16 2017, 11:54 PM
You don't get 'free' animals with Evian , Perrier , San Pelligrino etc

!jk!

No you get respectively, benzine, radioactive minerals and lead!

Well done for being a victim of marketing, I thought San Pellagrino was an Italian footballer until I Googled it being taken off the shelves in New York! You actually think untreated water extracted more often than not from a borehole is better than treated tap water! ;D

Ever seen bottled water out in the sun on a pallet? Very dodgy, chemicals from the bottles giving the water a funny taste, you are probably used to it now, mains water through a copper pipe that has mild antiseptic and anti bacterial properties for me? Pah, I'd not flush the bog with bottled water!
being taken off the shelves in New York

.........................


30 years ago

The manganese and excess iron deposits in my local supply has been within the past year
I bet when you Googled that you accidentally caught sight of all the other horror stories regarding bottled water. Right?

I bet those doubts are creeping in now. ;-)

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Nov 17 2017, 12:52 AM
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Nov 17 2017, 12:31 AM

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being taken off the shelves in New York

.........................


30 years ago

The manganese and excess iron deposits in my local supply has been within the past year
I bet when you Googled that you accidentally caught sight of all the other horror stories regarding bottled water. Right?

I bet those doubts are creeping in now. ;-)

No and no

Neither the cats, nor dog will touch tap water
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Nov 17 2017, 01:04 AM
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Nov 17 2017, 01:01 AM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
I bet when you Googled that you accidentally caught sight of all the other horror stories regarding bottled water. Right?

I bet those doubts are creeping in now. ;-)

No and no

Neither the cats, nor dog will touch tap water
Thanks for the open mind and scientific peer reviewed analysis, I know realise how wrong I've been!

;D
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Nov 17 2017, 01:01 AM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
I bet when you Googled that you accidentally caught sight of all the other horror stories regarding bottled water. Right?

I bet those doubts are creeping in now. ;-)

No and no

Neither the cats, nor dog will touch tap water
Both my dogs do and Berkshire is built on chalk, probably the hardest water in the UK, I recall reading (somewhere in a medical rag,) that Berkshire has the highest incidents of "stones" in the UK.

We get through a fair amount of kettles in a short space of time too.

Mind you, with what has passed through my gut in 64 years has made my insides like cast iron. ;-)
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And yes the water out of the tap has to be potable and nothing more. As far as the law goes it can taste like shit and be full of brown stuff from pipe flushing



If the local pipes are being flushed your water company must warn you, you'll be advised what to do, and do you know anything about the regulations in regards to back flow? :rubchin:
Well you explain why we get brown tinted water several times a year with no warnings then


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Well you explain why we get brown tinted water several times a year with no warnings then


Corrosion in rusty pipes. It was a problem where I live until the mains were replaced with plastic pipes.
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Well you explain why we get brown tinted water several times a year with no warnings then


Corrosion in rusty pipes. It was a problem where I live until the mains were replaced with plastic pipes.
Quite likely

And given a choice of drinking Buxton (280mh/L dry residue mostly bicarbonate) or Mr Ferrous's Finest Rust with added poison, the Buxton wins every time
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Quite likely

When I did a service on the central heating system a few years ago I had dig out a couple buckets of sludge from the mains water supplied header tank.

(I was expecting that though after several loads of washing had to be redone after mains water sludge got into the washing machine.)
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The worst tap water I ever tasted was in Kent..it stank of bleach..
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The worst tap water I ever tasted was in Kent..it stank of bleach..
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Nope, use filter jugs to fill the kettle and drink bottled Buxton and Evian. Your lack of knowledge on microbes is amazing given your plumbing background.

And soft water tastes shite. Even our cats prefer to drink water out of the fish pond than our tap water



Bugger me, when we were kids we would drink from a stream when thirsty whilst out playing and eat raw potatoes, no wonder people are so prone to everyday illness now.

Fxxxxxg wimps.
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And yes the water out of the tap has to be potable and nothing more. As far as the law goes it can taste like shit and be full of brown stuff from pipe flushing



If the local pipes are being flushed your water company must warn you, you'll be advised what to do, and do you know anything about the regulations in regards to back flow? :rubchin:
Well you explain why we get brown tinted water several times a year with no warnings then




Not my job, contact OFWAT for some compo.

Sounds like they are replacing the old Victorian cast iron pipework, try a magnet under the tap next time it happens, if it's not magnetic it's dirt.  :o
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Well you explain why we get brown tinted water several times a year with no warnings then




Not my job, contact OFWAT for some compo.

Sounds like they are replacing the old Victorian cast iron pipework, try a magnet under the tap next time it happens, if it's not magnetic it's dirt.  :o
or rat poo  :o

PS rust isn't very magnetic, might need a mega magnet (wot I haven't got).
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Not my job, contact OFWAT for some compo.

Sounds like they are replacing the old Victorian cast iron pipework, try a magnet under the tap next time it happens, if it's not magnetic it's dirt.  :o
or rat poo  :o

PS rust isn't very magnetic, might need a mega magnet (wot I haven't got).
As I am sure, you are all probably well aware that the isolation and draining down of a section of potable water pipework, replacement with new and the recharging of the system will draw out all the loose debris and probably century old inner skin of pipework downstream and will more than likely take a couple of days of domestic tap running to get rid of the discolouration and sediment.

Have any of you "dared" to look into your CWS tank in the loft and shone a torch into the bottom of it?

You will probably be horrified to see what is there, but, as long as you do not disturb it you will be okay.
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Get your water out of the tap
:nono: you like drinking Chlorine do you?

(but we digress)
... or Fluorine ...

https://youtu.be/Qr2bSL5VQgM
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Get your water out of the tap
:nono: you like drinking Chlorine do you?

(but we digress)
... or Fluorine ...

https://youtu.be/Qr2bSL5VQgM
;D a classic film

Water Fluoridation is fairly uncommon nowadays in the UK. What does Canada do?
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Water Fluoridation is fairly uncommon nowadays in the UK. What does Canada do?
Some of the fluoride is naturally in the water naturally, iirc you need around 1pp 500,000 for it to do any good, they seem to put it in water op north more than they do dahn saft, more bad teeth and bone problems in that part of the country? :rubchin:

And I think Canadians just chew on a walrus tusk.
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Water Fluoridation is fairly uncommon nowadays in the UK. What does Canada do?
Some of the fluoride is naturally in the water naturally, iirc you need around 1pp 500,000 for it to do any good, they seem to put it in water op north more than they do dahn saft, more bad teeth and bone problems in that part of the country? :rubchin:

And I think Canadians just chew on a walrus tusk.
Surely most people use flouridated toothpaste anyway. And IIRC it isn't flourine they put in but sodium fluoride.

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Surely most people use flouridated toothpaste anyway. And IIRC it isn't flourine they put in but sodium fluoride.

It's a bit of a hangover from the "good old days," it was found that fluoride (sic) was good for promoting bone growth as well as healthy teeth, this was when ricketts and malnutrition was rife, of course a little bit is good but it was thought more was even better! It wasn't, it was worse and caused other problems.
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Get your water out of the tap
:nono: you like drinking Chlorine do you?

(but we digress)
I prefer chlorine within the legal limits as opposed to various live microbes, bacteria and viruses, yourself? :)

Please don't tell me you've got one of those daft filter taps fitted with a charcoal filter?
absolutely not. I have one of these

http://waterdistillersdirect.co.uk/lowest-priced-water-distiller-1/?utm_medium=googleshopping&utm_source=bc

Seriously. And man alive you should see the shit inside the tank end...
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Steve K
Nov 17 2017, 11:33 PM
Curious Cdn
Nov 17 2017, 11:16 PM
Steve K
Nov 16 2017, 10:58 PM

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... or Fluorine ...

https://youtu.be/Qr2bSL5VQgM
;D a classic film

Water Fluoridation is fairly uncommon nowadays in the UK. What does Canada do?
We flouoridate all of the public water supply. When I was a kid, I grew up in a suburb of Montreal. The city didn't not flouoridate as the Catholic Church still had an iron grip on the place and they didn't believe in interfering with God's cavities. I lived in the only suburb that did flouoridate. Montreal was notorious for terrible teeth and the health consequences of having dental abcesses ... like sudden death due to diseased heart valve (the two are directly connected). Montreal now flouoridates after fighting for it for decades. The only parts of the country that do not get treated water are isolated Northern communities that are usually close to 100% native. They supply their own water treatment administered by tribal governments in a patchwork and all of the horrible health consequences of having your teeth rot out of your jaws are rampant where there is no treatment. The mortality rate spikes.

Whatever horrible health consequences we're supposed to be suffering from by consuming fluoride, they are certainly not obvious. We live longer lives on average than you do ... longer still than the Americans do. The only health thing that is unusual about Canada is that we have the highest incidence of M.S. anywhere in the world, here. Fluoride? That's a real long shot.

p.s. Fluorine occurs naturally in bodies of water on the Precambrian Shield, anyway.
Edited by Curious Cdn, Nov 18 2017, 04:23 AM.
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