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| Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM (1,604 Views) | |
| C-too | Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM Post #1 |
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Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election. No influence on the outcome because he says so IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.
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| Tigger | Jan 21 2017, 11:43 PM Post #481 |
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Maybe? What about all the US debt China owns? Not a bad hand to hold especially as you have just set up a rival banking system, that incidentally we are also involved in, which was against US wishes. Dump that on the markets and the dollar tanks, an act of war given the way the US defends the dollar. |
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| Tigger | Jan 21 2017, 11:48 PM Post #482 |
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Oh look xsog is in denial of economic factors, well they do involve numbers and that! FOOKIN POOFY ECONOMICS!
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 12:12 AM Post #483 |
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Not in denial.I don't post BS and opinions passing it off as FACTS (call me old fashioned ) PS.One thing I do know.AS long as the world keeps trading goods and services for MONEY (BTW you can use anything for money as long as it is consensual.PIGS,COWS,whatever ) they are all in danger. Even your beloved chinese Edited by xosg, Jan 22 2017, 12:17 AM.
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| Rich | Jan 22 2017, 01:34 AM Post #484 |
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Quite so, no trade....no profit....no profit then no trade, believe me,big businesses will decide the outcome of our Brexit and not the spiteful Eurocrats who dread having the trough taken away from under their snouts....oh dear, what a dreadful day they will have when they come to realise that no ideology can ever compete with pragmatism, practicality and common sense. Perhaps 2017 election/votes will make them come to their senses?....one can only hope. Surely, one must study the life cycle of a willow tree in order to learn how to survive. Edited by Rich, Jan 22 2017, 01:36 AM.
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| Curious Cdn | Jan 22 2017, 05:10 AM Post #485 |
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What lot is that? |
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| C-too | Jan 22 2017, 07:26 AM Post #486 |
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It would appear to be the case that things went pear shaped in 2008. Hmm, I wonder if that was Brown's fault. |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 22 2017, 08:01 AM Post #487 |
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I don't recall you springing to the defence of Hilary Clinton or the numerous journalists and other individuals that Donald Trump has personally attacked or condeming Trump for it. Why is that may I ask? Edited by Happy Hornet, Jan 22 2017, 08:02 AM.
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| Lewis | Jan 22 2017, 08:32 AM Post #488 |
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Probably, because Donald Fart is a right whinger extremist! |
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| Gnikkk | Jan 22 2017, 08:33 AM Post #489 |
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Manchester City drew 2-2 with Tottenham Hotspur, twice each side hit the back of the net, that City hit the corner flag as well is not a reason to say the score was not 2-2. They are the rules, bleating over the result is childish, he won end of. The rules are the rules, you cannot say that the result would have been different if the rules were different, because people voted according to the agreed rules. |
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| Lewis | Jan 22 2017, 08:35 AM Post #490 |
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Yeah it was Brown's fault that the meltdown that started in the states spread like wildfire. Notwithstanding the fact that a right winger was in charge of the states at the time. Never mind the right wing brain deads have to have someone to blame, so Brown will do! |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 09:47 AM Post #491 |
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I don't hold out much fate they will change Rich. Just listen to them on here. They have caused all this with the populace finally starting to reject the BS they put out over the last 50 years.Unfortunately some people are never going to learn from history. You can call it ARROGANCE,STUPIDITY or both |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 22 2017, 10:51 AM Post #492 |
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Yeah its so simple, every right wing government in history has created a problem free utopia. Oh no wait........ It's you political tribalists of all kinds that need to learn, none of you have all the answers, this has been proved time and time again. Once you've learned this very simple and obvious truth we might start to get somewhere. |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 22 2017, 11:27 AM Post #493 |
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At my school we had a saying "if you can't take it don't dish it out". Seems that Trump and some of his supporters are yet to learn that lesson, the delicate little snowflakes. Edited by Happy Hornet, Jan 22 2017, 11:28 AM.
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| johnofgwent | Jan 22 2017, 11:30 AM Post #494 |
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It .. It is GREEN !!
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That argument .. is SO last century. 1931 in fact Well in the UK anyway Although the way Corbyn's going, if we can get shot of the scottish trollop, 2020 might see a repeat |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 12:03 PM Post #495 |
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It's you political tribalists of all kinds that need to learn, none of you have all the answers, this has been proved time and time again. Once you've learned this very simple and obvious truth we might start to get somewhere. DITTO : Back at ya
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 12:10 PM Post #496 |
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You've got form when it comes to profound ignorance in economic matters as the above post demonstrates, tediously we get the usual chest beating and hubris when it comes to trade, however it is now undeniable that the UK will no longer be a gateway into the biggest free market in the World. Watch where the money shufflers re-congregate because they move to where the action is. Our actions will have serious consequences going forward, but feel free to embarrass yourself further with yet another chest beating reply, we need a laugh. |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 22 2017, 12:10 PM Post #497 |
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Except of course I'm not a political tribalist and am on record as saying that i think that political tribalism is the biggest problem facing this country. |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 12:12 PM Post #498 |
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You play by the rules or you don't play at all. If it wasn't for the electoral college,why bother campaigning in smaller states ? When all you have to do is campaign in California and Texas and let them pick the next president hey ? It is there for a reason. While your on about fairness,address why UKIP with nearly 4m votes nationally only have 1 MP representing them ? On the other hand the SNP (Scottish National Party ) led by Jimmy Crankie have 56 MPs with less than 1.5m votes ? As I said if you don't like the rules DON'T play |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 12:19 PM Post #499 |
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Give us FACTS.Facts are what determine arguments,not opinions and inuendos of biased arrogant party members
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 12:19 PM Post #500 |
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Being blunt here, thick,stupid or lazy people with poor skill sets or a lack of assets have suffered badly under right wing neo liberal governments, I've yet to see any plausible economic plans from the latest bunch of even more neo liberal Anglo Saxon governments that will reverse the situation. If you want alleged free trade you have to compete head on, and no cutting taxes for big business and the 1% does not work for thick, stupid or lazy people with poor skill sets because these actions effectively remove the need for the latter........... |
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| krugerman | Jan 22 2017, 12:20 PM Post #501 |
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As much as I utterly detest UKIP, I have to agree with the poster "xosg" It is undefensible that the SNP have over 50 MPs yet UKIP with more votes have only 1 The argument against FPTP and in favour of some form of proportional representation is overwhelming, it also legitimises the world wide protests againt Donald Trump, because basically Hillary got more votes. Edited by krugerman, Jan 22 2017, 12:21 PM.
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 12:22 PM Post #502 |
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Facts are offered and out come the emoticons in response, I'll happily remind you every time a large employer decides their interests will be best served outside the UK in the future, that way it's kept nice and simple for you, one day you have a proper job the next day you don't!
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 12:24 PM Post #503 |
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We voted against it, console yourself that many of those who rejected it will suffer because of their actions, it's the only way some people learn........... |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 12:37 PM Post #504 |
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As I said, "Give me Facts ?" Heard your opinions and speeches several thousand times over the years and I must say you don't have a track record on being correct do ya ? Same old same old drivel from you every time you post: WERE ALL DOOMED,ALL THE MONEY HAS GONE, EVERYONE IS DESERTING US.YOUR ALL STUPID I didn't want your opinions (be they old and boring) I want FACTS and OUTCOMES Until then your just like the rest of us aren't you,You don't know do ya ?
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 12:42 PM Post #505 |
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So then, is it untrue that thick, lazy and stupid people with no assets have been left behind? If not I'm at a loss to explain the present ructions in society. |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 12:43 PM Post #506 |
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Well when you do,I hope that in the interests of fairness you address the jobs that are coming into this country to negate the losses YOU are ALWAYS predicting ( although I doubt it,won't hold my breath ) You are the GODFATHER of false predictions on here
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 12:46 PM Post #507 |
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Look. STOP with your opinions and inuendos and give me the FACTS for the umpteenth time of asking ?
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| The Buccaneer | Jan 22 2017, 12:46 PM Post #508 |
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Trump seems to be off and running, having just sacked all the US foreign ambassadors so he can appoint his own, and making plans to ease the burden of 'Obamacare' for some hard up states. It remains to be seen whether these are beneficial or not, and just as he's got 4 years to show what he can do to better the lives of poor US citizens and restore manufacturing and bring businesses back home to the US to reduce unemployment, he'll be judged by results. As is Obama, who the consensus so far seems to have written off as ineffectual. |
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| Tytoalba | Jan 22 2017, 12:47 PM Post #509 |
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Tigger has, by his own words, lost one job and found another in education. with a pension,so he had no difficulty in finding another one . |
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| Steve K | Jan 22 2017, 12:49 PM Post #510 |
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Well yes and no The problem results from the referendum we had in 2011 where the UK overwhelmingly rejected AV based elections which if adopted would have curtailed that effect significantly There is a wonderful irony that referendums that gave UKIP what they always wanted denied them the chance for a position in government (under AV the 2015 election would have required a coalition government) But back to topic: the issue over Trump's election is whether illegal activity (the hacking and FBI director) enabled his votes to be selectively sought and delivered. Apparently under USA law an illegally won election has to stand. Says so much about the USA and certainly says he has no moral mandate And lack of a moral mandate is what could get him in the end. It's the crucial factor in impeachments and the way he is going he's going to give legal cause for such very soon |
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 12:50 PM Post #511 |
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It's now fairly obvious you can't answer this without compromising your entire argument, job done as far as I'm concerned! And remember folks, the World does not owe you a living you really do have to get off your nationalistic arses!
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| Steve K | Jan 22 2017, 12:52 PM Post #512 |
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Ah but he left office with massive approval ratings for being ineffectual An irony is his economic success was in no small part down to the Republican Senate forcing him into budget cuts he could never have sold to his own party. |
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 12:53 PM Post #513 |
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Yes I've retired and handed the company over to others who can hopefully take it to the next level, and my current role pays minimum wage (I'm not allowed to work for nothing) and this present part time job offers no pension. |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 12:55 PM Post #514 |
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FACTS. Give me FACTS.You don't like it do ya ? I got you again.You are so easy to put down and silence.Like taking candy from a baby,well for me it is anyway.
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 12:57 PM Post #515 |
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Seems to be the case we are creating jobs in your case.Totally refutes your argument,don't it ? |
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 12:58 PM Post #516 |
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Obama was also left with the clusterfuck of Wall Street after Bush's years of looking the other way, he's done a reasonable job of getting it back in line, but don't tell that to folks like Mr Pirate.... |
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 12:59 PM Post #517 |
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You've painted yourself into a corner, well done!
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 01:00 PM Post #518 |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 01:30 PM Post #519 |
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Seems I am not the one calling everyone stupid and I know best or else. Just doing my job and calling you out.if you open your mouth about outcomes, give us FACTS not opinions to back it up You lost yet another argument again'st me and YOU don't like it do ya ? You strike me as always getting your own way and very bombastic and dominant in nature. Don't like it do ya when up again'st the same ? Remember there are millions around who are just as bombastic and insulting as you. Just you aint met them yet |
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| Affa | Jan 22 2017, 01:37 PM Post #520 |
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Some cuts, austerity of a sort, were always part of the Obama recovery plan. Those were mainly State Funding as I understood it, and some public services did see a reduction in spending. |
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IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.



I wonder if that was Brown's fault.

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