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| Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM (1,603 Views) | |
| C-too | Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM Post #1 |
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Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election. No influence on the outcome because he says so IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.
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| The Buccaneer | Jan 22 2017, 01:58 PM Post #521 |
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You have some basis for that claim I hope ? |
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| Rich | Jan 22 2017, 02:35 PM Post #522 |
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Trollop?????you are far too kind in description for my money. |
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| Affa | Jan 22 2017, 03:08 PM Post #523 |
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The 1931 GE was a turning point. Consensus politics gave way to the Party politics still with us today. PR could have ended that, but having established itself completely. Plutocracy has made that change near impossible. I'm not alone here in believing it will require huge failure to maintain living standards and employment prospects before the electorate learn that they have it in them to make Parliament serve them. |
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| Rich | Jan 22 2017, 03:28 PM Post #524 |
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" before the electorate learn that they have it in them to make Parliament serve them." IMO, that process has now begun and not before time too, I am of the opinion, that Theresa May has listened to the majority of the voting electorate and that she is minded to put in place policies that will benefit the UK first and foremost by the time of the next General election, as does every other nation on this planet and that is understandable, why would anyone in their right mind agree to being taxed only to benefit other countries? |
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| Affa | Jan 22 2017, 03:49 PM Post #525 |
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May has indicated that her government will pay more attention to society at large and cut back on the 'business priority' dogma that has gotten us here. If she pulls it off she will have achieved what no Labour government was able to do, even with a huge majority of support in Parliament, in the Party. May has neither! |
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| Rich | Jan 22 2017, 05:45 PM Post #526 |
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Well, watching the Andrew Marr show this morning, it transpires that our PM will be the FIRST foreign leader to be invited into the Oval office and converse with PRESIDENT Trump......now what could that mean and what is the significance of such an invitation? |
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| Steve K | Jan 22 2017, 05:53 PM Post #527 |
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What could that mean? Well for a start it means that that thread crowing about how he'd see Putin first was just a load of baloney http://w11.zetaboards.com/UK_Debate_Mk_2/topic/30132309/
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 05:56 PM Post #528 |
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Seriously?
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| Steve K | Jan 22 2017, 05:58 PM Post #529 |
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I see Trump is so desperately insecure he's got his White House press secretary Sean Spicer telling lies already about how many people turned up to his inauguration http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38712182 He's now trying to defend being caught out being a lying little git who works for a lying little handed git by saying no one has any numbers. Unfortunately there's a time lapse video and public transportation data that shows only about 1/3 the number that came to see Obama in 2013 came to see shaby Donald last week And Spicer is going to find out so soon and so harshly that you don't aggressively diss the media when they're reporting the truth. |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 05:59 PM Post #530 |
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Maybe, but I bet you and the other lefties got your 2 bobs worth of gloating in it
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| Affa | Jan 22 2017, 06:00 PM Post #531 |
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What relevance does this invitation have to the subject of these post between us? You believe May will serve with more respect for voters, considerably less favouritism for big business. I mentioned that to do that without the full support of her party she has no chance - I doubt any leader of any party could pull it off. |
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 06:14 PM Post #532 |
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The difficult part will be maintaining the privileges of the better off who will be hit by Brexit, whilst at the same time offering enough red meat to the plebs to keep them distracted. |
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| Steve K | Jan 22 2017, 06:25 PM Post #533 |
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You are entitled to that delusion |
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| C-too | Jan 22 2017, 06:37 PM Post #534 |
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Try learning from the right-wing rubbish of the 1980s. |
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| Rich | Jan 22 2017, 06:43 PM Post #535 |
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Yes, a bit like the £350 million baloney that voters did not take any notice of either, politicians are very well known for hyperbole and people...rational and logical thinking people take that into account. People are not such a soft touch as others make out. |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 22 2017, 07:19 PM Post #536 |
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So day one and Trump has his press secretary telling outright lies or "alternative facts" as his team put it, about the attendance at his inauguration. Doesn't bode well. |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 07:53 PM Post #537 |
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Jesus Christ now we have the crowds at his inauguration.For gods sake give it a rest. I hear he has invited Micky Mouse to the white house,but don't tell anyone it's a secret ssshhhh So the man has an ego and a bit of pride, this board is full of them.Let him have his day for gods sake. |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 22 2017, 07:57 PM Post #538 |
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So you're ok with politicians lying to the public? Edited by Happy Hornet, Jan 22 2017, 07:58 PM.
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 08:01 PM Post #539 |
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Ever thought the man is embarrassed, a bit of humility (yes,even Trump ) Contrary to popular belief,he is human.With the same traits as every other human. |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 22 2017, 08:03 PM Post #540 |
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So to clarify, you are defending a politician who has lied to the public? |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 08:05 PM Post #541 |
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On crowd numbers at an inauguration,does'nt bother me at all. I see it for what it is.Not another nail in his coffin like some. How long are you going to go on with this for the next 4 years about his inauguration ? Now, on a matter of national security a bit different wouldn't you say ? |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 08:08 PM Post #542 |
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And you haven't ? Lets start with BLIAR shall we ? Or if your a lib dem how about good ol bonking paddy hey ? Jeremy Thorpe Peter Mandelson Tell me when to stop
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 08:09 PM Post #543 |
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Politicians who tell blatant but needless lies end up losing the trust of just about everyone in the end.You simply cannot take them at their word. |
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| Rich | Jan 22 2017, 08:09 PM Post #544 |
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Well, you are a voter (apparently) are you happy with your choices when you put an x on the ballot paper? |
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 08:10 PM Post #545 |
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Another failure to launch? |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 22 2017, 08:13 PM Post #546 |
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Never defended any of the above or any other lying politician. Your defence of political dishonesty has been noted however. |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 08:17 PM Post #547 |
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I don't. NOT even you
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| Steve K | Jan 22 2017, 08:19 PM Post #548 |
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Excuse me but weren't you the one crowing about how you wanted to see Facts not Opinions? Seems you are showing plurality of standards posting all those opinions Can we have some facts please? I know it's upsetting for you to see your hero breaking the law (getting a state employee to bear false witness) on day 1 but please cope with it. |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 08:19 PM Post #549 |
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LOL crowds at an inauguration. WHATEVER As long as it gives you lot something to talk about
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 08:20 PM Post #550 |
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They are well documented go look them up if it concerns you |
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| Steve K | Jan 22 2017, 08:21 PM Post #551 |
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As I posted earlier xosg, that he feels the need to lie big time about such a small matter shows so much about how pathetic he really is. |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 08:22 PM Post #552 |
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And the fact you lot have to run with it in your arguments.Shows you how pathetic you all are |
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| Steve K | Jan 22 2017, 08:26 PM Post #553 |
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Do read the Forum Rules |
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| Tigger | Jan 22 2017, 08:26 PM Post #554 |
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You are right it doesn't matter but it just seems a bit undignified doesn't it? He makes a clearly untrue but rather vacuous claim, probably knowing full well it would be checked, but rather than just STFU and letting it pass he goes into one! Trust me this behaviour will wear a bit thin before long. |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 08:30 PM Post #555 |
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I am not saying it is healthy. I am saying it seems pathetic to be having a debate about it. |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 08:34 PM Post #556 |
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What is that supposed to mean ?What law have I broken now ? I don't go around with my little red book in my pocket ( know what I mean ) |
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| Steve K | Jan 22 2017, 08:34 PM Post #557 |
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So you'd brush under the carpet him getting a state employee to tell lies and harangue the media in public on day 2 of his term in office as if it's no guide as to what will follow? |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 22 2017, 08:47 PM Post #558 |
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To be fair, his press secretary only got the gig because Comical Ali is no longer with us. |
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| The Buccaneer | Jan 22 2017, 08:47 PM Post #559 |
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Yes, seriously, so how about any kind of corroboration for once ? |
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| xosg | Jan 22 2017, 08:52 PM Post #560 |
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I realise the concerns but I don't judge people on things that may or may not happen in the future. Judge him on his record. He hasn't killed anyone yet,as he ? He hasn't deported anyone yet, has he ? He is not building any concentration camps yet,is he ? He hasn't locked anyone up yet,has he ? So I see no reason as yet to go into overdrive over him.Maybe because I am practical and a Realist with my head screwed on,who doesn't follow the masses like a sheep.I have my own opinions and I judge people on what they do,not who they are |
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