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Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM (1,615 Views)
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Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election.

No influence on the outcome because he says so !jk! IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.
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Because he's an immature egotistical liar that thinks it's OK to cover up lies with bigger lies?
So perfect Politician material then?


All The Best
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Jan 7 2017, 01:33 PM

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I thought the post was the wining post with the first side to reach more than 50% the winner. Dimbleby thought so on referendum night which apparently sent the BBC staff on duty into a period of shocked disbelief, which they still haven't got over.

Refresh your memories of this wonderful night.  ::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEWiMzC6GNg
I will, --- IF --- things improve in the long run, if they don't the world will remember the foolish dreamers who voted for exit ;D
LOL That's an improvement in this discussion.
Instead of constant doom and gloom forecasts nd speculations we should wait and see. There is an old service saying that if rape is inevitable, then lie back and enjoy it. If Brexit is inevitable, which it is, and most know it, then we have to make the best of it. If we are to Brexit,then we should al l work together in our own best interests.
You can of course keep rocking the boat, slow the process down, assist our opponents in the EU to make it harder for the negotiators out of spite, or you can cooperate fully to get the job done and dusted in our countries best interests.
The first decision the remainers have to make is 'Is Brexit inevitable or not'
If it is then co operate, and stop your constant obstructive moaning, and lie back and enjoy it.
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Jan 8 2017, 11:18 AM
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Jan 7 2017, 04:02 PM

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I will, --- IF --- things improve in the long run, if they don't the world will remember the foolish dreamers who voted for exit ;D
LOL That's an improvement in this discussion.
Instead of constant doom and gloom forecasts nd speculations we should wait and see. There is an old service saying that if rape is inevitable, then lie back and enjoy it. If Brexit is inevitable, which it is, and most know it, then we have to make the best of it. If we are to Brexit,then we should al l work together in our own best interests.
You can of course keep rocking the boat, slow the process down, assist our opponents in the EU to make it harder for the negotiators out of spite, or you can cooperate fully to get the job done and dusted in our countries best interests.
The first decision the remainers have to make is 'Is Brexit inevitable or not'
If it is then co operate, and stop your constant obstructive moaning, and lie back and enjoy it.
Sorry to interfere with your dream world, but I think it is pretty clear by now that there will be difficulties when we leave the EU. So instead of burying our heads in the sand we should be aware of and look for any pitfalls that might lay ahead. Such observations could make exit easier.

You lay back and take it if you wish, I will continue to enjoy prodding the dreamers hoping they will accept at some stage that they have taken a big decision at the wrong time.

Just like yourself I have no influence on negotiations.

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Jan 8 2017, 12:40 AM

Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?


That is the nature of narcissistic bullies. I've had to deal with two of them in my working life, pretty much like him too.

It's all about Trump. Everything will be about Trump. Trump doesn't really give a rat's ass about America. He thinks that he'll make America great again, solely because it will be led by him and HE is great! Things will happen in the world depending on whether Trump takes personal offence or whether you suck up to him and make him feel great.

Attila the Hun was probably like that.
12 days to go until the inauguration speech, let's be patient until then and see what transpires thereafter.
I will give credit to Trump if he manages to "make America great again". Meanwhile I will continue to give my opinion which is that Trump is a liar and will say anything that he thinks might make him appear to be a decent intelligent individual. He resorts to smart mouthing when he doesn't have an intelligent answer which exposes his schoolyard mentality.

My perception is that he is a liar and has always been a liar. He just tells his lies with such conviction that some swallow every word.

(Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table).

Considering Trump has yet to get his feet under the table, so to speak, there's an awful lot of ignorant froth generated by some here, making wildly stupid forecasts and casting nasty aspersions, and the man isn't even British !

Personally, I doubt he could do much worse than the flaky Obama with his 'holier than thou' airs, but bugger all action of any substance, save for the 'Obamacare', an obvious vanity project, which has yet to bear any fruit apparently.
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, making wildly stupid forecasts and casting nasty aspersions, and the man isn't even British !

Memo: Reserve casting nasty aspersions on the British, only .
Edited by Curious Cdn, Jan 8 2017, 03:03 PM.
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
I will give credit to Trump if he manages to "make America great again". Meanwhile I will continue to give my opinion which is that Trump is a liar and will say anything that he thinks might make him appear to be a decent intelligent individual. He resorts to smart mouthing when he doesn't have an intelligent answer which exposes his schoolyard mentality.

My perception is that he is a liar and has always been a liar. He just tells his lies with such conviction that some swallow every word.

(Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table).

Considering Trump has yet to get his feet under the table, so to speak, there's an awful lot of ignorant froth generated by some here, making wildly stupid forecasts and casting nasty aspersions, and the man isn't even British !

Personally, I doubt he could do much worse than the flaky Obama with his 'holier than thou' airs, but bugger all action of any substance, save for the 'Obamacare', an obvious vanity project, which has yet to bear any fruit apparently.
At the moment we have to take Trump on what we see and what we know, and that isn't working in his favour.
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table).

Considering Trump has yet to get his feet under the table, so to speak, there's an awful lot of ignorant froth generated by some here, making wildly stupid forecasts and casting nasty aspersions, and the man isn't even British !

Personally, I doubt he could do much worse than the flaky Obama with his 'holier than thou' airs, but bugger all action of any substance, save for the 'Obamacare', an obvious vanity project, which has yet to bear any fruit apparently.
At the moment we have to take Trump on what we see and what we know, and that isn't working in his favour.
Regardless of anyone's opinion, Mr Trump will be inaugurated in 12 days time and will in effect become the most powerful potentate in the world.

Why not wait a while and just see what happens after that? anyone can guess.
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Isn't it ? Certainly the "liberal elite" would agree, as would the traditional "professional political class" in America.

Have their been any polls on current American opinions outside of those two bubbles ?
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
At the moment we have to take Trump on what we see and what we know, and that isn't working in his favour.
Regardless of anyone's opinion, Mr Trump will be inaugurated in 12 days time and will in effect become the most powerful potentate in the world.

Why not wait a while and just see what happens after that? anyone can guess.
I don't believe in burying my head in the sand or in ignoring alarm bells when they ring.
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Jan 7 2017, 04:22 PM
And refresh your memories of BBC bias ;D

Dimbleby said that the 1975 decision to "join" the common market had been reversed.

(first 15 seconds of the clip)

We never had a referendum to join the comment market... only a referendum to confirm membership that the government had already signed up to two years previously.

And - of course - the 2016 vote was NOT about leaving the common market. It was about leaving the European Union - a VERY different creature.

Is it just me, or does it look like he is chewing a lemon ?

Thanks for the link Tytoalba... it was fun to watch it :)
yes it does look like he is chewing a lemon

I tell people I stayed up all night to watch this. The reality is I got out of bed to watch it because I could not sleep and I went to work high as a kite on my own endorphins, pumped up by the afterburner of Cameron the lying posh boy taking a dive and the only shame was it wasn't off the top of big ben to the pavement below.

As television moments go it's up there with "There was I waiting at the Church" (Sunny Jim Callaghan just before his exit and 18 years of the tories) and the moon landings.
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
Regardless of anyone's opinion, Mr Trump will be inaugurated in 12 days time and will in effect become the most powerful potentate in the world.

Why not wait a while and just see what happens after that? anyone can guess.
I don't believe in burying my head in the sand or in ignoring alarm bells when they ring.
So what do you intend to do to reverse things as they stand?.....go tell the yanks that they have got it all wrong or should we just respect the opinion of the voting American electorate and wish them the best?
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table).

Considering Trump has yet to get his feet under the table, so to speak, there's an awful lot of ignorant froth generated by some here, making wildly stupid forecasts and casting nasty aspersions, and the man isn't even British !

Personally, I doubt he could do much worse than the flaky Obama with his 'holier than thou' airs, but bugger all action of any substance, save for the 'Obamacare', an obvious vanity project, which has yet to bear any fruit apparently.
At the moment we have to take Trump on what we see and what we know, and that isn't working in his favour.

What is it that you think you know that the rest of us don't ?

I thought not !
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
Regardless of anyone's opinion, Mr Trump will be inaugurated in 12 days time and will in effect become the most powerful potentate in the world.

Why not wait a while and just see what happens after that? anyone can guess.
I don't believe in burying my head in the sand or in ignoring alarm bells when they ring.

You just like inventing these 'alarm bells' ?
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
I don't believe in burying my head in the sand or in ignoring alarm bells when they ring.

You just like inventing these 'alarm bells' ?
There is clearly going to be a trade war that will probably become a global one in very short order.The first few salvos have already been fired and the chances of it happening are around 100%. That will probably result in a planetary recession ... including the US but, as you suggest, wait for it.p
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table

You just like inventing these 'alarm bells' ?
There is clearly going to be a trade war that will probably become a global one in very short order.The first few salvos have already been fired and the chances of it happening are around 100%. That will probably result in a planetary recession ... including the US but, as you suggest, wait for it.p

It isn't at all clear to me that there will be a trade war, esp as EU member countries such as Germany, Spain and France stand to lose far more than we in the UK will. Check their trade figures with the UK.
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
I don't believe in burying my head in the sand or in ignoring alarm bells when they ring.
So what do you intend to do to reverse things as they stand?.....go tell the yanks that they have got it all wrong or should we just respect the opinion of the voting American electorate and wish them the best?
Well, as I have said before, I am not an American citizen.

In the past my interest in their political machinations stemmed from the fact I did business to my very definite financial advantage with several businesses of American registration or origin on a B2B basis, and the odd bit of business for American customers on a B2C footing.

This time round you can add the fact that at the start of the primaries anyway it was a better than outside shot I might be finally getting my wastrel youngest off my sofa and into wedding attire as a GI bride. A possibility that evaporated (sorry, was that the yank spelling, old habit there) some months before the final vote.

My basic view is yank internal politics are not my concern and I wish to fuck the yanks would respect the view the other way round and stop trying to arrange regieme change by invasion or assasination in various other nation states. But that doesn't mean I can't hold, or should not express, a view on how they are royally fucking up ... er no hang on they're a republic so that would be PRESIDENTIALLY fucking up how they organise their own affairs.
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
There is clearly going to be a trade war that will probably become a global one in very short order.The first few salvos have already been fired and the chances of it happening are around 100%. That will probably result in a planetary recession ... including the US but, as you suggest, wait for it.p

It isn't at all clear to me that there will be a trade war, esp as EU member countries such as Germany, Spain and France stand to lose far more than we in the UK will. Check their trade figures with the UK.
I live in a juristiction that produces a lot of automobiles for the North American marrket ... more automobiles than the UK produces, most years. Trump specifically took on Toyota and the Corolla, last week. He mentioned Mexico, because Toyota was planning to build a plant, there but currently, Corollas are made two hours up the road from me at Ingersoll, Ontario and we all bristled, and braced ourselves. The only protection that Canada has that Mexico doesn't is that we import more from the US than we export to them and Canadian trade is the primary employer in 35 of the 50 States. That, however, would require a rational analysis of the situation and, quite frankly, Trump is bonkers and no one here is expecting that due diligence will be done by this wing-nut. We are nervously waiting for Trump to take power and few of us believe that it will be a good thing. The polling here is overwhealming negative. The polling also says that Canadians will not go down without a fight and that we should fight the Americans with countervailling tariffs when they come, even though it will almost certainly hurt us. The two way trade between the US and Canada is the biggest such relationship in the world,. Add Mexico, and when it comes apart, the ripples will be felt pretty much all over.


It could happen to you, too. All that you have to do is piss off Trump, somehow. He will take it personally and surely punish you and yours.
Edited by Curious Cdn, Jan 8 2017, 08:06 PM.
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table

It isn't at all clear to me that there will be a trade war, esp as EU member countries such as Germany, Spain and France stand to lose far more than we in the UK will. Check their trade figures with the UK.
I live in a juristiction that produces a lot of automobiles for the North American marrket ... more automobiles than the UK produces, most years. Trump specifically took on Toyota and the Corolla, last week. He mentioned Mexico, because Toyota was planning to build a plant, there but currently, Corollas are made two hours up the road from me at Ingersoll, Ontario and we all bristled, and braced ourselves. The only protection that Canada has that Mexico doesn't is that we import more from the US than we export to them and Canadian trade is the primary employer in 35 of the 50 States. That, however, would require a rational analysis of the situation and, quite frankly, Trump is bonkers and no one here is expecting that due diligence will be done by this wing-nut. We are nervously waiting for Trump to take power and few of us believe that it will be a good thing. The polling here is overwhealming negative. The polling also says that Canadians will not go down without a fight and that we should fight the Americans with countervailling tariffs when they come, even though it will almost certainly hurt us. The two way trade between the US and Canada is the biggest such relationship in the world,. Add Mexico, and when it comes apart, the ripples will be felt pretty much all over.


It could happen to you, too. All that you have to do is piss off Trump, somehow. He will take it personally and surely punish you and yours.

Which is exactly why I hope our government and business leaders are indulging in making approaches to other trading nations around the globe, something we did centuries before the advent of the USA.
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
I live in a juristiction that produces a lot of automobiles for the North American marrket ... more automobiles than the UK produces, most years. Trump specifically took on Toyota and the Corolla, last week. He mentioned Mexico, because Toyota was planning to build a plant, there but currently, Corollas are made two hours up the road from me at Ingersoll, Ontario and we all bristled, and braced ourselves. The only protection that Canada has that Mexico doesn't is that we import more from the US than we export to them and Canadian trade is the primary employer in 35 of the 50 States. That, however, would require a rational analysis of the situation and, quite frankly, Trump is bonkers and no one here is expecting that due diligence will be done by this wing-nut. We are nervously waiting for Trump to take power and few of us believe that it will be a good thing. The polling here is overwhealming negative. The polling also says that Canadians will not go down without a fight and that we should fight the Americans with countervailling tariffs when they come, even though it will almost certainly hurt us. The two way trade between the US and Canada is the biggest such relationship in the world,. Add Mexico, and when it comes apart, the ripples will be felt pretty much all over.


It could happen to you, too. All that you have to do is piss off Trump, somehow. He will take it personally and surely punish you and yours.

Which is exactly why I hope our government and business leaders are indulging in making approaches to other trading nations around the globe, something we did centuries before the advent of the USA.
This guy is crazy. I know his type really well. Flatter the crap out of Trump and make him think that it's all his idea, that is how you are going to carry on a trade negotiation with the United States for the next four years (maybe less if there is an impeachment or ... military coup)

Lap dog is a good idea and it might just save British jobs.
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Seems Theresa May thinks Donald is a reformed man and won't try and grab her by the pussy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38546476

I hate to break it to you Theresa but you weren't exactly first on his list
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Seems Theresa May thinks Donald is a reformed man and won't try and grab her by the pussy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38546476

I hate to break it to you Theresa but you weren't exactly first on his list
He's got high hopes for Kate and her pretty, little sister though.
It's gonna be GREAT!

Maybe, you should consider offering her up.It might lead to a couple of hundred thousand new jobs!
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There is clearly going to be a trade war that will probably become a global one in very short order.The first few salvos have already been fired and the chances of it happening are around 100%. That will probably result in a planetary recession ... including the US but, as you suggest, wait for it.p
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I sense it too.
Protectionism is coming .......... can't compete - close up shop to outsiders.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEWiMzC6GNg IF --- things improve in the long run, if they don't the world will remember the foolish dreamers who voted for exit ;D
LOL That's an improvement in this discussion.
Instead of constant doom and gloom forecasts nd speculations we should wait and see. There is an old service saying that if rape is inevitable, then lie back and enjoy it. If Brexit is inevitable, which it is, and most know it, then we have to make the best of it. If we are to Brexit,then we should al l work together in our own best interests.
You can of course keep rocking the boat, slow the process down, assist our opponents in the EU to make it harder for the negotiators out of spite, or you can cooperate fully to get the job done and dusted in our countries best interests.
The first decision the remainers have to make is 'Is Brexit inevitable or not'
If it is then co operate, and stop your constant obstructive moaning, and lie back and enjoy it.
Sorry to interfere with your dream world, but I think it is pretty clear by now that there will be difficulties when we leave the EU. So instead of burying our heads in the sand we should be aware of and look for any pitfalls that might lay ahead. Such observations could make exit easier.

You lay back and take it if you wish, I will continue to enjoy prodding the dreamers hoping they will accept at some stage that they have taken a big decision at the wrong time.

Just like yourself I have no influence on negotiations.

Prodding the dreamers hopes? With what purpose. Will it assist in the negotiations or is it just self indulgent spite? Are you one of the remainers that hope things will go wrong so that you can say 'I told you so?'
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table

You just like inventing these 'alarm bells' ?
There is clearly going to be a trade war that will probably become a global one in very short order.The first few salvos have already been fired and the chances of it happening are around 100%. That will probably result in a planetary recession ... including the US but, as you suggest, wait for it.p
Do you think I should sell my shares , for they are higher now than they have ever been. ;D
There will be a crash or correction eventually, for there always is. I have stayed in the market for years, with booms and busts, but it has always been two steps forward and one back.
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
There is clearly going to be a trade war that will probably become a global one in very short order.The first few salvos have already been fired and the chances of it happening are around 100%. That will probably result in a planetary recession ... including the US but, as you suggest, wait for it.p
Do you think I should sell my shares , for they are higher now than they have ever been. ;D
There will be a crash or correction eventually, for there always is. I have stayed in the market for years, with booms and busts, but it has always been two steps forward and one back.
A downturn doesn't necessarily mean that the value of your stocks are all going to go down ... some, maybe. Lots may not go up, very quickly. There is some disconnect between stock markets and reality.

With the uncertainty of Brexit and the potential lunacy of Trump, all bets are off but the kooky anarchy that is possible may be full of investment opportunities! Who knows? What does the octopus in the tank down at the pub tell you?
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
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I don't believe in burying my head in the sand or in ignoring alarm bells when they ring.
So what do you intend to do to reverse things as they stand?.....go tell the yanks that they have got it all wrong or should we just respect the opinion of the voting American electorate and wish them the best?
That's a nonsense question. I will just continue to post my opinions of Trump. You seem to have a problem with that.
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
So what do you intend to do to reverse things as they stand?.....go tell the yanks that they have got it all wrong or should we just respect the opinion of the voting American electorate and wish them the best?
That's a nonsense question. I will just continue to post my opinions of Trump. You seem to have a problem with that.
I have no problem at all with the decision of the American voting electorate, it is none of our business.
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Jan 9 2017, 02:37 AM
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Jan 8 2017, 07:11 PM

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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
That's a nonsense question. I will just continue to post my opinions of Trump. You seem to have a problem with that.
I have no problem at all with the decision of the American voting electorate, it is none of our business.
If the popular vote had translated directly into a Presidency, Clinton would have won by about three million votes. The Americans Electoral College made Trump the President .
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
I have no problem at all with the decision of the American voting electorate, it is none of our business.
If the popular vote had translated directly into a Presidency, Clinton would have won by about three million votes. The Americans Electoral College made Trump the President .
So what, both sides have to deal with the same ruling, the same applies in a game of football, both sides have to deal with the conditions on the day and with one single referee.....once again, I have no problem with the American voting system, it is no business of the rest of the world.
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
That's a nonsense question. I will just continue to post my opinions of Trump. You seem to have a problem with that.
I have no problem at all with the decision of the American voting electorate, it is none of our business.
Then in future I will expect no comments from yourself on any matters not concerning the UK, including comments on Trump. While others have the freedom to pass opinion on anything they choose. Seems odd you would tie yourself up in such a way.
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
So what do you intend to do to reverse things as they stand?.....go tell the yanks that they have got it all wrong or should we just respect the opinion of the voting American electorate and wish them the best?
That's a nonsense question. I will just continue to post my opinions of Trump. You seem to have a problem with that.

Which of course has been garnered through personal knowledge and close exposure to the man ?

As Rich says, it'snone of our business who or how the yanks elect their presidents.
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
That's a nonsense question. I will just continue to post my opinions of Trump. You seem to have a problem with that.

Which of course has been garnered through personal knowledge and close exposure to the man ?

As Rich says, it'snone of our business who or how the yanks elect their presidents.
So are you saying we don't live on a planet where the USA is not only the dominant military power but has hardly been shy about using that power beyond its borders?

And are you saying we aren't in a military pact where we are obliged to go to war if the USA is attacked by forces Trump may provoke?

And are you saying we have no threat from fundamentalist Islamic terrorism that has often claimed our alignment with the USA to justify mass murder?

And are you saying we don't have USA armed forces o bases in the UK that would be targeted should the USA go to serious war?

And are you saying we aren't dependent on imported fuels whose pricing and supply aren't dominated by the US economy?

And are you saying we shouldn't have any empathy for USA and wider North American citizens whose lives might be wrecked by Trump's policies?

Easy yes/no questions so please answer
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
If the popular vote had translated directly into a Presidency, Clinton would have won by about three million votes. The Americans Electoral College made Trump the President .
So what, both sides have to deal with the same ruling, the same applies in a game of football, both sides have to deal with the conditions on the day and with one single referee.....once again, I have no problem with the American voting system, it is no business of the rest of the world.
The outcomes of US elections can affect the rest of the world deeply. The outcome of this last one is already sending ripples around the planet and the lunatic hasn't even been sworn in, yet.
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Jan 9 2017, 11:04 AM
The outcomes of US elections can affect the rest of the world deeply. The outcome of this last one is already sending ripples around the planet and the lunatic hasn't even been sworn in, yet.
If he lives to be sworn in.
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The outcomes of US elections can affect the rest of the world deeply. The outcome of this last one is already sending ripples around the planet and the lunatic hasn't even been sworn in, yet.
If he lives to be sworn in.
Oh, I think he will. Removing him from power afterwards is going to be a messy business, though .
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
Do you think I should sell my shares , for they are higher now than they have ever been. ;D
There will be a crash or correction eventually, for there always is. I have stayed in the market for years, with booms and busts, but it has always been two steps forward and one back.
A downturn doesn't necessarily mean that the value of your stocks are all going to go down ... some, maybe. Lots may not go up, very quickly. There is some disconnect between stock markets and reality.

With the uncertainty of Brexit and the potential lunacy of Trump, all bets are off but the kooky anarchy that is possible may be full of investment opportunities! Who knows? What does the octopus in the tank down at the pub tell you?
Hold. :thumbsup:
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Why doesn't Trump grow up and stop acting like a schoolyard smart mouthing fool ?
Beware of what right-wingers bring to the table
That's a nonsense question. I will just continue to post my opinions of Trump. You seem to have a problem with that.
I have no problem at all with the decision of the American voting electorate, it is none of our business.
Inclined to agree.Their population is 325,000,000 as against our own 70 000 000, so I think they will have a wider body of opinion to decide things for themselves in their own best interests without interference from us or the Russians.
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The outcomes of US elections can affect the rest of the world deeply. The outcome of this last one is already sending ripples around the planet and the lunatic hasn't even been sworn in, yet.
If he lives to be sworn in.
Oh, I think he will. Removing him from power afterwards is going to be a messy business, though .
It's going to get messy

Hell have no fury like a lying misogynist bigot scorned by a woman

Mr Trump said: "She is a Hillary flunky who lost big. For the 100th time, I never 'mocked' a disabled reporter (would never do that)."

Oh so what's this at 20 seconds in then Donald?



He's going to find himself increasingly isolated. His voting core will desert him when he can't deliver on his promises and they realise he wasn't lying for them he was lying to them too. Just 22 months to go to the midterm elections and senior Republicans will already be seriously worried about losing the Hlll

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Oh, I think he will. Removing him from power afterwards is going to be a messy business, though .
It's going to get messy

Hell have no fury like a lying misogynist bigot scorned by a woman

Mr Trump said: "She is a Hillary flunky who lost big. For the 100th time, I never 'mocked' a disabled reporter (would never do that)."

Oh so what's this at 20 seconds in then Donald?



He's going to find himself increasingly isolated. His voting core will desert him when he can't deliver on his promises and they realise he wasn't lying for them he was lying to them too. Just 22 months to go to the midterm elections and senior Republicans will already be seriously worried about losing the Hlll

Come on Steve. Is this fact or just an opinion? We really do not know how the American people will react to his decisions or what his approval ratings are or will be. I think it is 'fair' to give him time to make his mark, for or against. It is another occasion where we need to wait and see.
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Come on Steve. Is this fact or just an opinion? We really do not know how the American people will react to his decisions or what his approval ratings are or will be. I think it is 'fair' to give him time to make his mark, for or against. It is another occasion where we need to wait and see.
Yes it's fair that he should be given his chance at being president

And it's equally fair that each time he comes out with yet another cheap lie in some tantrum then it's pointed out what it is and what he is in making it. As he did last night.

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