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| Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM (1,594 Views) | |
| C-too | Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM Post #1 |
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Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election. No influence on the outcome because he says so IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.
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| Phoenix One UK | Jan 30 2017, 11:05 PM Post #881 |
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OK, so that's the end of that petition then.
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| Steve K | Jan 30 2017, 11:05 PM Post #882 |
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have just had to remove one offensive ad hom that Any repeats will be rewarded with posting holidays |
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| papasmurf | Jan 30 2017, 11:09 PM Post #883 |
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What worries me is England, spent several hundred years plundering a big sector of the planet, and the Tories don't understand that sector of the planet is queuing up to screw us back with iffy trade deals, which I suspect will all have Investor State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) clauses in them and the NHS will be privatised within week of any such deal with America being signed. Edited by papasmurf, Jan 30 2017, 11:10 PM.
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| xosg | Jan 30 2017, 11:22 PM Post #884 |
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Nice speech.Now I askyou again. WHAT HAS IT GOT TO DO WITH YOU ? |
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| Tytoalba | Jan 30 2017, 11:32 PM Post #885 |
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Those opposed to Trump or Brexit seem to be making up as many negative possibilities as they can. They will be saying next that we will be opening prison camps, and executing every third person or some other such rubbish. |
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| Curious Cdn | Jan 30 2017, 11:33 PM Post #886 |
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Everything. We are joined at the hip. Siamese twins. Try this simple experiment. Go to the BBC World News website. Look at any story from the USA. what section of the BBC news comes up? If you still don't get it, you likely never will. Edited by Curious Cdn, Jan 30 2017, 11:34 PM.
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| Tigger | Jan 30 2017, 11:34 PM Post #887 |
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It's a debate forum not a march through the East End with pitchforks and lighted torches.
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| Steve K | Jan 30 2017, 11:35 PM Post #888 |
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Well IF that happens you can post that you told us so. Don't hold your breath Perhaps you could post a link please to one of these made up "negative possibilities" so we can kick the tyres on your belief |
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| Steve K | Jan 30 2017, 11:39 PM Post #889 |
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The Times is reporting that Theresa May is now seeking to say it wasn't her idea to invite him http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/may-under-fire-as-no-10-tries-to-shift-blame-for-trump-invitation-nh3ljfrfp (sorry it's a subscription link) Downing Street has suggested that a little-known Foreign and Commonwealth Office committee was responsible for Donald Trump’s invitation to meet the Queen in the first sign of equivocation over the state visit.
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| Tigger | Jan 30 2017, 11:42 PM Post #890 |
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Come on be honest here it smacks of desperation! The decent thing to do would have been to give him time to settle in and see how things pan out, the World will be sniggering at our eagerness to cosy up so quickly, so much for May's alleged thoughtful decision making! There are many unanswered questions about Trumps financial affairs and many large US businesses are already expressing concern if not yet alarm at his off the cuff policies and poorly thought out plans.It will cost them and by extension us if we are not careful. If he gets into political trouble May and worst of all Britain is riding on his coat tails. |
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| Tytoalba | Jan 30 2017, 11:45 PM Post #891 |
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There is another petition on the Youguv site calling for Trump to visit the UK Currently there are over 46 thousand signature on it. Eventually there will be over a hundred thousands for and over a hundred thousands against. Those in favour should sign it.I have. Perhaps some brave soul will attach the link for easier access to it. |
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| Tigger | Jan 30 2017, 11:47 PM Post #892 |
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The PM leaning up against a Ford Consul with a roll up hanging out the corner of her gob and wearing some leopard skin slacks. "Not me guv" |
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| Steve K | Jan 30 2017, 11:47 PM Post #893 |
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You post it. Tell you want I'll post it if it gets over a million signatures. Don't hold your breath meantime that supposedly rejected petition now has 1,583,538 signatures |
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| Affa | Jan 30 2017, 11:48 PM Post #894 |
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You and I strongly suspect why. The Brexit deadline is fast approaching and May is examining all options. She wants to know, have some assurances from Trump, just what he will put on the table - before telling Brussels we're through. This is about Brexit, it is about where we go from 2019 onwards. |
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| Tigger | Jan 30 2017, 11:51 PM Post #895 |
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You seem worried? And you are not normally so coy about encouraging people people to complain, stitch up or otherwise stymie causes you are clearly not keen on..........
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| Steve K | Jan 30 2017, 11:52 PM Post #896 |
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The Mirror has done a brilliant sting to expose the lying hypocrite for what he really is as his businesses buy from just about everywhere but the USA Donald Trump's Buy America Last
Edited by Steve K, Jan 30 2017, 11:55 PM.
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| Tigger | Jan 30 2017, 11:55 PM Post #897 |
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The US will for want of a better description fuck us up the arse economically, assorted right wing groupies who endlessly quote the war seem to forget how the US took economic advantage of us after that terrible event, even threatening to crush the Pound during Suez! And we'll be caught between the EU and US in the event of any economic shenanigans. It's a desperate and dangerous game cuddling up to Trump's US. |
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| Curious Cdn | Jan 30 2017, 11:56 PM Post #898 |
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Poor Theresa. "He said peace in our times! Right here! . .. in this Tweet!" Edited by Curious Cdn, Jan 31 2017, 12:00 AM.
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| Rich | Jan 30 2017, 11:57 PM Post #899 |
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I have to ask, how can a "foreign and commonwealth office committee" be little known? Is it a self appointed quango? who gave this committee that is little known the power to invite a foreign leader without the say so of a minister? I am intrigued. |
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| Steve K | Jan 30 2017, 11:58 PM Post #900 |
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USA Attorney General refuses to defend Trump's order in court http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38805343 Probably already had her CV out there Edited by Steve K, Jan 31 2017, 12:10 AM.
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| Ewill | Jan 31 2017, 12:02 AM Post #901 |
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I suspect will all have Investor State Dispute Settlement (ISDS) clauses in them Arbitration clauses have been standard fare in most international contracts for decades |
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| Curious Cdn | Jan 31 2017, 12:03 AM Post #902 |
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We should grant sanctuary and assylum to all of these guys. They should set up government in waiting here for such time that the Great Tower of Mordor falls. |
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| papasmurf | Jan 31 2017, 07:58 AM Post #903 |
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Trump's list of advisors speaks for itself, there are some very shabby, dodgy people on it. •Stephen A. Schwarzman (Forum Chairman), Chairman, CEO, and Co-Founder of Blackstone; •Paul Atkins, CEO, Patomak Global Partners, LLC, Former Commissioner of the Securities and Exchange Commission; •Mary Barra, Chairman and CEO, General Motors; •Toby Cosgrove, CEO, Cleveland Clinic; •Jamie Dimon, Chairman and CEO, JPMorgan Chase & Co; •Larry Fink, Chairman and CEO, BlackRock; •Travis Kalanick, CEO and Co-founder, Uber Technologies; •Bob Iger, Chairman and CEO, The Walt Disney Company; •Rich Lesser, President and CEO, Boston Consulting Group; •Doug McMillon, President and CEO, Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.; •Jim McNerney, Former Chairman, President, and CEO, Boeing; •Elon Musk, Chairman and CEO, SpaceX and Tesla; •Indra Nooyi, Chairman and CEO of PepsiCo; •Adebayo “Bayo” Ogunlesi, Chairman and Managing Partner, Global Infrastructure Partners; •Ginni Rometty, Chairman, President, and CEO, IBM; •Kevin Warsh, Shepard Family Distinguished Visiting Fellow in Economics, Hoover Institute, Former Member of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System; •Mark Weinberger, Global Chairman and CEO, EY; •Jack Welch, Former Chairman and CEO, General Electric; and •Daniel Yergin, Pulitzer Prize-winner, Vice Chairman of IHS Markit. |
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| Oddball | Jan 31 2017, 08:21 AM Post #904 |
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Of course what goes on in the US often affects the Canadians; they have a very long border with Uncle Sam, and most of the Canadian population live close to, or not that far from that border. Being in the Canadian south, it is the warmest area of their country. |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 31 2017, 08:25 AM Post #905 |
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Real bunch of salt of the earth, anti-establishment types there, power to the people 😂 |
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| Ewill | Jan 31 2017, 08:37 AM Post #906 |
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You know all of these people personally and professionally to make such judgements on them? Would you rather he listed as advisors , doleites and wastrels rather than highly successful people in their fields? |
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| Curious Cdn | Jan 31 2017, 08:42 AM Post #907 |
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The dodgiest one of the lot, Steve Bannon, has been left off of that list. He's the Breitbart guy ... sort of Libertarian anarchist. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/30/steve-bannon-nsc-politics-national-security http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/stephen-bannon-how-he-fits-in-trumps-unusual-inner-circle/article32835619/ |
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| papasmurf | Jan 31 2017, 08:48 AM Post #908 |
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Bannon is on the other list of iffy people Trump has appointed. |
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| Tytoalba | Jan 31 2017, 10:22 AM Post #909 |
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The desperation comes from those opposed to Brexit , May herself and Trump in general . Its the usual storm in a teacup resolving itself I'm time. The petition inviting Trump to Britain is now over 80,000 signatures approaching the 100000 mark to be considered for debate in the HOC https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844/signatures/new |
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| xosg | Jan 31 2017, 10:32 AM Post #910 |
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I never will because you are acting like another deranged lunatic.When overturning the global establishment this is what to be expected.I mean they won't go down without a fight, triggering all the numpties to get out and complain.Get used to a new global establishment.You seem to forget the majority of Americans voted for him ( take away the dead,illegals,and dual state voters ) to start this agenda.Do you think they will put up with this shit from all you lefties much longer.He is enacting the will of the majority. |
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| xosg | Jan 31 2017, 10:34 AM Post #911 |
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Nothing wrong with them he is installing non establishment people get used to it |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 31 2017, 10:37 AM Post #912 |
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The majority of Americans didn't vote for Trump, he got around 62.5 million votes, the population of America is 318 million. Also, Clinton got 3 million more votes than him. |
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| xosg | Jan 31 2017, 10:37 AM Post #913 |
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In your eyesobviously, not to the majority of Americans. |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 31 2017, 10:39 AM Post #914 |
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Non-establishment people? All those CEOs of multinational corporations and billionaires are "non-establishment"? |
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| Tytoalba | Jan 31 2017, 10:45 AM Post #915 |
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You do seem to have a big pile of mud to sling at those you disapprove of. If they, are Dodgy, what ever that means, they have an upper and lower chamber scrutinising the choice and a press system to color peoples minds and the Law to resource to. If they do the job well that Trump has assigned them to do, and that we don't know until they have done it, what's it to do with us? |
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| papasmurf | Jan 31 2017, 10:47 AM Post #916 |
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Actually they didn't he got in on the College vote he was several million short on the popular vote. |
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| xosg | Jan 31 2017, 10:47 AM Post #917 |
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We know that thank you. Like I said when you take away the dead,the illegals,voters registered in 2 states,I think that will even it out.Have your day in court so to speak,it will fade away and die just like the rest of them.Remember the marches again'st the Iraq war over here and in America,nothing ever come of it.If a few screaming lefties think they can overthrow the POTUS think again,one word from Trump and you will have the 60 odd million gun toting real Americans out.As you know they don't just scream and shout or look for their safe spaces.He is going nowhere get used to it.Remember the tea party demos,I got news for you,they aint gone away |
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| xosg | Jan 31 2017, 10:49 AM Post #918 |
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Yes. They may be rich,does'nt mean they are establishment.Even if they were establishment I don't think they have your ideology |
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| papasmurf | Jan 31 2017, 10:53 AM Post #919 |
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The mud is public domain. That shower of nastiness is going to be deeply involved with any trade agreement with Britain and with the Tories in government Britain will be seriously screwed especially if the Tories let a Investor State Dispute (ISDS) clause into any agreement. |
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| Curious Cdn | Jan 31 2017, 10:57 AM Post #920 |
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Goebbels and Goring are no longer available. |
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