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Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM (1,593 Views)
C-too
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Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election.

No influence on the outcome because he says so !jk! IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.
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Jan 31 2017, 10:57 AM
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Jan 31 2017, 10:39 AM
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Jan 31 2017, 10:34 AM

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Non-establishment people? All those CEOs of multinational corporations and billionaires are "non-establishment"?

Goebbels and Goring are no longer available.
Here we go again,Goebells,Goering,Hitler,Eichmann give it a rest.Have you nothing new or constructive to add ?

Is it just a mantra you on the left are taught as babies and instilled into you to just shout out the words automatically that come into your subconscious.

It is only a talking point from one leftie to another leftie,so you can pat each other on the back telling yourselves the world agrees with you.
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Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM
Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election
Edited by xosg, Jan 31 2017, 11:05 AM.
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Jan 30 2017, 11:34 PM
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Jan 30 2017, 11:22 PM


WHAT HAS IT GOT TO DO WITH YOU ?
It's a debate forum not a march through the East End with pitchforks and lighted torches.

;-)
Who asked or was talking to you ;-)
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Jan 31 2017, 10:47 AM
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Jan 31 2017, 10:37 AM
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Jan 31 2017, 10:32 AM

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The majority of Americans didn't vote for Trump, he got around 62.5 million votes, the population of America is 318 million. Also, Clinton got 3 million more votes than him.
We know that thank you. Like I said when you take away the dead,the illegals,voters registered in 2 states,I think that will even it out.Have your day in court so to speak,it will fade away and die just like the rest of them.Remember the marches again'st the Iraq war over here and in America,nothing ever come of it.If a few screaming lefties think they can overthrow the POTUS think again,one word from Trump and you will have the 60 odd million gun toting real Americans out.As you know they don't just scream and shout or look for their safe spaces.He is going nowhere get used to it.Remember the tea party demos,I got news for you,they aint gone away
Yes I've heard similar claims of voting irregularities from Trump as well. Not seen a single shred of evidence to support this claim so far though.

More alternative facts? Or lies as they call round our way.
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Jan 31 2017, 10:53 AM
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Jan 31 2017, 10:45 AM
You do seem to have a big pile of mud to sling at those you disapprove of.
The mud is public domain. That shower of nastiness is going to be deeply involved with any trade agreement with Britain and with the Tories in government Britain will be seriously screwed especially if the Tories let a Investor State Dispute (ISDS) clause into any agreement.
Opinion is not fact. We deal with who we have to deal with, not who we chose to deal.
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Jan 30 2017, 11:39 PM
The Times is reporting that Theresa May is now seeking to say it wasn't her idea to invite him

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/may-under-fire-as-no-10-tries-to-shift-blame-for-trump-invitation-nh3ljfrfp
(sorry it's a subscription link)

Downing Street has suggested that a little-known Foreign and Commonwealth Office committee was responsible for Donald Trump’s invitation to meet the Queen in the first sign of equivocation over the state visit.

!jk!


Popcorn:
Look he is coming full stop. That is how stupid and pathetic the left are,

TRYING TO BAN THE POTUS, you can get out in your millions shout from every rooftop in the country,cry an ocean of the fake tears you all like to produce.Spread your fear feromones from lands end to john o groats.It makes not one iota of difference,he will be coming,that's it !jk!
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Jan 31 2017, 11:09 AM
Opinion is not fact. We deal with who we have to deal with, not who we chose to deal.
The nasty facts about a number of those advisors are documented fact, they are not speculation, or accusation.
You have the list of names, if you are not aware of the serious nastiness of two of them I have to wonder where you have been since 2008.
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There is another petition on the Youguv site calling for Trump to visit the UK Currently there are over 46 thousand signature on it. Eventually there will be over a hundred thousands for and over a hundred thousands against. Those in favour should sign it.I have. Perhaps some brave soul will attach the link for easier access to it.
You post it. Tell you want I'll post it if it gets over a million signatures. Don't hold your breath

meantime that supposedly rejected petition now has 1,583,538 signatures
SIGN AWAY,sign away until your little HEARTS content "O luvvies"
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Jan 31 2017, 11:12 AM
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Jan 31 2017, 11:09 AM
Opinion is not fact. We deal with who we have to deal with, not who we chose to deal.
The nasty facts about a number of those advisors are documented fact, they are not speculation, or accusation.
You have the list of names, if you are not aware of the serious nastiness of two of them I have to wonder where you have been since 2008.
Out of that list of names,tell me how many have murdered directly or indirectly been responsible for murdering women and children ? Just asking a question, don't get nasty.
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Jan 31 2017, 11:17 AM
Out of that list of names,tell me how many have murdered directly or indirectly been responsible for murdering women and children ? Just asking a question, don't get nasty.
I am not going to get nasty however if you check on, indirectly, for yourself (the sourcing of base materials in manufacturing processes, and foreign suppliers and contractors.) you are going to have a shock at the sheer number of deaths and work/contamination related cancers and other diseases. (Seriously.) The reporters from "Cash Investigations" a French investigative TV program, has done several detailed investigations into that and matters related. (At great personal risk of injury and death to themselves.)
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There is another petition on the Youguv site calling for Trump to visit the UK Currently there are over 46 thousand signature on it. Eventually there will be over a hundred thousands for and over a hundred thousands against. Those in favour should sign it.I have. Perhaps some brave soul will attach the link for easier access to it.
You post it. Tell you want I'll post it if it gets over a million signatures. Don't hold your breath

meantime that supposedly rejected petition now has 1,583,538 signatures
SIGN AWAY,sign away until your little HEARTS content "O luvvies"
When the objectors see the magic number of 100000 signatures inviting trump to visit, here is the link that the have promised to post for there is not far to go now.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844/signatures/new
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Jan 31 2017, 11:26 AM
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Jan 31 2017, 11:17 AM
Out of that list of names,tell me how many have murdered directly or indirectly been responsible for murdering women and children ? Just asking a question, don't get nasty.
I am not going to get nasty however if you check on, indirectly, for yourself (the sourcing of base materials in manufacturing processes, and foreign suppliers and contractors.) you are going to have a shock at the sheer number of deaths and work/contamination related cancers and other diseases. (Seriously.) The reporters from "Cash Investigations" a French investigative TV program, has done several detailed investigations into that and matters related. (At great personal risk of injury and death to themselves.)
I want factuall numbers ? not heresay or opinions.Remember facts are not opinions
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SIGN AWAY,sign away until your little HEARTS content "O luvvies"
When the objectors see the magic number of 100000 signatures inviting trump to visit, here is the link that the have promised to post for there is not far to go now.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844/signatures/new
Well they just got one more :thumbsup:
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Jan 30 2017, 08:32 PM
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Jan 30 2017, 01:15 PM
1,217,297 signatures to the petition for him not to have a state visit

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

Update: now 1,219,150 signatures

Going up at about 1,000 a minute :thumbsup:
What a load of horseshit - no, its not even worthy of being called shit. . .
 ::) if it's not too much trouble perhaps you could say just what about my post was 'horseshit' as it sure looks like 100% facts to me. Perhaps it's your outburst that's actually horseshit

BTW it's now 1,493,411 signatures
I would imagine that to 99% of readers it was quite obvious that I was referring to the Petition itself as horseshit.

I apologise for any confusion by the 1%.

All The Best
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Jan 31 2017, 11:28 AM
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Jan 31 2017, 11:17 AM
Out of that list of names,tell me how many have murdered directly or indirectly been responsible for murdering women and children ? Just asking a question, don't get nasty.
I am not going to get nasty however if you check on, indirectly, for yourself (the sourcing of base materials in manufacturing processes, and foreign suppliers and contractors.) you are going to have a shock at the sheer number of deaths and work/contamination related cancers and other diseases. (Seriously.) The reporters from "Cash Investigations" a French investigative TV program, has done several detailed investigations into that and matters related. (At great personal risk of injury and death to themselves.)
I want factuall numbers ? not heresay or opinions.Remember facts are not opinions
You got any facts to back your accusations of voter irregularities leading to Clinton winning the popular vote?
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I want factuall numbers ? not heresay or opinions.Remember facts are not opinions
You got any facts to back your accusations of voter irregularities leading to Clinton winning the popular vote?
Not really.Just spouting the same shit you lot are spouting.Regarding Russia influenced the election results.Don't quote CNN ABC MSNBC WASHINGTON POST etc etc etc !jk! !jk!
Edited by xosg, Jan 31 2017, 11:43 AM.
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I want factuall numbers ? not heresay or opinions.Remember facts are not opinions
I am not referring to hearsay or opinion, I am referring to facts. You really do need to check for yourself, there just is not the space available to post the sheer volume on this forum.
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When the objectors see the magic number of 100000 signatures inviting trump to visit, here is the link that the have promised to post for there is not far to go now.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844/signatures/new
Well they just got one more :thumbsup:
Now up to 92500 signatures and new ones signing up every miniute.

For proof look up https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844
On a previous post I wrote that we need two polls for everything one for, one against, and here we see it in practice. Praising the one and ignoring the other serves no useful purpose for both are valid in representing public opinion
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Well they just got one more :thumbsup:
Now up to 92500 signatures and new ones signing up every miniute.

For proof look up https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844
On a previous post I wrote that we need two polls for everything one for, one against, and here we see it in practice. Praising the one and ignoring the other serves no useful purpose for both are valid in representing public opinion
Correction The 92500 figure given is incorrect and is now well over 94000. Wouldn't like to mislead anyone.  ::)
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Well they just got one more :thumbsup:
Now up to 92500 signatures and new ones signing up every miniute.

For proof look up https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844
On a previous post I wrote that we need two polls for everything one for, one against, and here we see it in practice. Praising the one and ignoring the other serves no useful purpose for both are valid in representing public opinion
I thought you said our opinions didn't matter because Trump was elected etc?
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Jan 31 2017, 11:30 AM
Now up to 92500 signatures and new ones signing up every miniute.

For proof look up https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844
On a previous post I wrote that we need two polls for everything one for, one against, and here we see it in practice. Praising the one and ignoring the other serves no useful purpose for both are valid in representing public opinion
I thought you said our opinions didn't matter because Trump was elected etc?
My personal opinions don't count, though,they do seem to count with you.
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Jan 31 2017, 12:10 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttps://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844/signatures/newhttps://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844
On a previous post I wrote that we need two polls for everything one for, one against, and here we see it in practice. Praising the one and ignoring the other serves no useful purpose for both are valid in representing public opinion
I thought you said our opinions didn't matter because Trump was elected etc?
My personal opinions don't count, though,they do seem to count with you.
I value people's right to express their opinions and encourage them to do so, irrespective of whether or not it is backed up by a recent election result.
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Jan 31 2017, 12:19 PM
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Jan 31 2017, 12:10 PM
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Jan 31 2017, 11:30 AM
Now up to 92500 signatures and new ones signing up every miniute.

For proof look up https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844
On a previous post I wrote that we need two polls for everything one for, one against, and here we see it in practice. Praising the one and ignoring the other serves no useful purpose for both are valid in representing public opinion
Correction The 92500 figure given is incorrect and is now well over 94000. Wouldn't like to mislead anyone.  ::)
Now 100,559 signatures for a visit https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/178844

And against: 1,665,822 signatures (but that has been running since November last year)

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Jan 31 2017, 11:17 AM
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Jan 31 2017, 11:09 AM
Opinion is not fact. We deal with who we have to deal with, not who we chose to deal.
The nasty facts about a number of those advisors are documented fact, they are not speculation, or accusation.
You have the list of names, if you are not aware of the serious nastiness of two of them I have to wonder where you have been since 2008.
Out of that list of names,tell me how many have murdered directly or indirectly been responsible for murdering women and children ? Just asking a question, don't get nasty.
Yes in general his team are well established competent people that reflect the expressed will of the USA in the Senate and House of Representative elections.

I and others may not like that view but it's unreasonable to expect him to appoint a set of Democrat policy leaning office holders

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Jan 30 2017, 11:22 PM
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Jan 29 2017, 10:21 PM

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We are the United States largest trading partner and they are ours. The two way trade between our two countries is the largest such ebb and flow on the planet. We share defences with them through NORAD , NATO and a host of other such arrangements. We share a border as wide as all of Europe and then some. Our police and security people use common data bases on all of us, in order to provide transcontinental anti-terror and anti-criminal security. The US isn't just "another country over there, somewhere" that we needn't be nosy about They are in our faces, in our lives and, if they go off the rails, they are a real existential threat to us.
As a previous Prime Minister so wisely put the relationship, back in the 1970's: ...

"Americans should never underestimate the constant pressure on Canada which the mere presence of the United States has produced. We're different people from you and we're different people because of you. Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is effected by every twitch and grunt. It should not therefore be expected that this kind of nation, this Canada, should project itself as a mirror image of the United States."

The United States is a half hour drive from me. The best analogy that you would understand would be the relationship between Scotland and England with the difference that we are an independent and sovereign nation (that Scotland is not) and that we do not ask for or receive a penny of any type of largesse or aid from the US (that Scotland regularly does).

"Nothing to do with us"?
Wrong.
Very wrong.
Nice speech.Now I askyou again.

WHAT HAS IT GOT TO DO WITH YOU ?
The Trump affect :)
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Nice speech.Now I askyou again.

WHAT HAS IT GOT TO DO WITH YOU ?
The Trump affect :)
The triumphant Trump effect.
If he has made so many enemies on the left he must be doing something right.
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The Trump affect :)
The triumphant Trump effect.
If he has made so many enemies on the left he must be doing something right.


There must be an awful lot of lefties out there in, including some within Trump's cabinet who are said to be furious with him for not consulting them about his travel ban before signing off on it. Lefties everywhere!!!!!
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The triumphant Trump effect.
If he has made so many enemies on the left he must be doing something right.
There must be an awful lot of lefties out there in, including some within Trump's cabinet who are said to be furious with him for not consulting them about his travel ban before signing off on it. Lefties everywhere!!!!!
So you have noticed it as well? ;D


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There must be an awful lot of lefties out there in, including some within Trump's cabinet who are said to be furious with him for not consulting them about his travel ban before signing off on it. Lefties everywhere!!!!!
So you have noticed it as well? ;D


Keeping a close eye on you, after all what better way to alleviate suspicions than by denouncing lefties at every opportunity?
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Out of that list of names,tell me how many have murdered directly or indirectly been responsible for murdering women and children ? Just asking a question, don't get nasty.
Yes in general his team are well established competent people that reflect the expressed will of the USA in the Senate and House of Representative elections.

I and others may not like that view but it's unreasonable to expect him to appoint a set of Democrat policy leaning office holders

Then I don't see what the problem is with these dissenters.Just because you get elected to the senate or House does not make you automatically an expert on world affairs,deal making.These people are rich (less chance of corruption) these people have proved themselves in the private sector (dog eat dog) these are the people I would be listening to to save my country.Not Bertie Bassett who has just been elected
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Yes in general his team are well established competent people
Are you being serious, they are dinosaurs on many issues.
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The Trump affect :)
The triumphant Trump effect.
If he has made so many enemies on the left he must be doing something right.
Why are you rambling out of context again ? Why don't you follow the thread of the posts you reply to instead of just promoting triumphalism yet again ?
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There must be an awful lot of lefties out there in, including some within Trump's cabinet who are said to be furious with him for not consulting them about his travel ban before signing off on it. Lefties everywhere!!!!!
So you have noticed it as well? ;D
Your posts reveal your authoritarian right-wing mindset. Why have you bothered to deny it in the past ?
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I see that petition we were so vehemently told by some had been rejected has in fact now been accepted to initiate a debate by MPs

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38814346

Meanwhile, MPs are to hold a debate on the government's offer of a full UK state visit for Mr Trump.



Scores on the doors:

155,354 signatures for a visit

1,722,060 signatures for no state visit

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Those opposed to Trump or Brexit seem to be making up as many negative possibilities as they can.
Trump's list of advisors speaks for itself, there are some very shabby, dodgy people on it.

•Stephen A. Schwarzman (Forum Chairman), Chairman, CEO, and Co-Founder of Blackstone;
•Paul Atkins, CEO, Patomak Global Partners, LLC, Former Commissioner of the Securities and Exchange Commission;
•Mary Barra, Chairman and CEO, General Motors;
•Toby Cosgrove, CEO, Cleveland Clinic;
•Jamie Dimon, Chairman and CEO, JPMorgan Chase & Co;
•Larry Fink, Chairman and CEO, BlackRock;
•Travis Kalanick, CEO and Co-founder, Uber Technologies;
•Bob Iger, Chairman and CEO, The Walt Disney Company;
•Rich Lesser, President and CEO, Boston Consulting Group;
•Doug McMillon, President and CEO, Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.;
•Jim McNerney, Former Chairman, President, and CEO, Boeing;
•Elon Musk, Chairman and CEO, SpaceX and Tesla;
•Indra Nooyi, Chairman and CEO of PepsiCo;
•Adebayo “Bayo” Ogunlesi, Chairman and Managing Partner, Global Infrastructure Partners;
•Ginni Rometty, Chairman, President, and CEO, IBM;
•Kevin Warsh, Shepard Family Distinguished Visiting Fellow in Economics, Hoover Institute, Former Member of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System;
•Mark Weinberger, Global Chairman and CEO, EY;
•Jack Welch, Former Chairman and CEO, General Electric; and
•Daniel Yergin, Pulitzer Prize-winner, Vice Chairman of IHS Markit.

:'(

'Kin ell, don't bother draining the swamp dig a new one they won't all fit in!
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:'(

'Kin ell, don't bother draining the swamp dig a new one they won't all fit in!
Precisely.
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I am not going to get nasty however if you check on, indirectly, for yourself (the sourcing of base materials in manufacturing processes, and foreign suppliers and contractors.) you are going to have a shock at the sheer number of deaths and work/contamination related cancers and other diseases. (Seriously.) The reporters from "Cash Investigations" a French investigative TV program, has done several detailed investigations into that and matters related. (At great personal risk of injury and death to themselves.)
Well if Trump is serious about getting jobs back to America he could do a lot worse than start questioning the morals of most of those in that list you put up.
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Jan 31 2017, 07:54 PM
Well if Trump is serious about getting jobs back to America he could do a lot worse than start questioning the morals of most of those in that list you put up.
You think Trump has morals?
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Happy Hornet
Jan 31 2017, 04:22 PM
Keeping a close eye on you, after all what better way to alleviate suspicions than by denouncing lefties at every opportunity?
Buy him a brown shirt and give him a brick?


;-)
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Tytoalba
Jan 31 2017, 03:05 PM
The triumphant Trump effect.
If he has made so many enemies on the left he must be doing something right.
The Queen is not happy either, and did you hear Prince Charles this afternoon with his not very subtle rebuke of Trump's policies? Who do these people think they are? We need a republic. ;-)

Anyway the protocol, according to a palace flunky, is for the government to consult the Queen BEFORE a state visit is approved as the monarch has some say in the arrangements, but it appears she was not consulted and only heard about it from palace staff!

Anyone got a phone number so that I can complain on behalf of poor old Brenda who has been left in the lurch by May and Co?
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