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| Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM (1,589 Views) | |
| C-too | Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM Post #1 |
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Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election. No influence on the outcome because he says so IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.
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| xosg | Feb 3 2017, 01:01 PM Post #1081 |
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Quite true, Would'nt you say we have moved on from the musket nowadays ? That pretty nifty AR15 replaces it |
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| xosg | Feb 3 2017, 01:04 PM Post #1082 |
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I would say that the average American has not only read it,but is slightly more up on it than you will ever be. It is the arrogance of the left,ESPECIALLY in another country to tell citizens of that country they know best.Don't ya think ?
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| Steve K | Feb 3 2017, 01:08 PM Post #1083 |
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Well let's recap You said you wanted to see more protest on the US streets so your tobacco chewing gun toting would be friends would be provoked to go out on the streets and shoot them And you think the US Constitution blesses such?
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| xosg | Feb 3 2017, 01:38 PM Post #1084 |
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"YOU SAID." Did I,where ? Show me where I stated," I WANT TO SEE MORE PROTEST ? " I have a feeling you may be shamed into an apology,IF I feel I want one But no need to apologise,as I am not a wet Left wing fascist. Edited by xosg, Feb 3 2017, 01:39 PM.
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| xosg | Feb 3 2017, 01:41 PM Post #1085 |
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Don't mistake my mild calm manner as a sign of weakness
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 3 2017, 01:49 PM Post #1086 |
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Who here is defending or advocating violence? Im certainly not. |
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| Gnikkk | Feb 3 2017, 02:50 PM Post #1087 |
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I don't see us as hideously divided. A small minority would have us all believe so but that's not the case. Like I said a few million loud mouths shout down the ordinary man who wants a quiet life and just to get on. He's not allowed to hate Johnny Foreigner even though it's pretty clear Johnny et al hates him and his pale skinned matey's. I think the putrid blue eyes don't help either. Most ordinary folk just want a nice life, if those who didn't try hard at school are fed up then they first need to understand why they are where they are, and that it's nobody else's fault. Edited by Gnikkk, Feb 3 2017, 02:51 PM.
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 3 2017, 03:06 PM Post #1088 |
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Typical sneering liberal elite blah, blah, blah. But seriously, would you say the same thing to people who blame all their woes on immigration and the EU? Edited by Happy Hornet, Feb 3 2017, 03:07 PM.
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| Tytoalba | Feb 3 2017, 04:05 PM Post #1089 |
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Say what you like about who you like, but does it have to be with the very personal insults that we know will offend? That's the point I make. Use the stiletto, not the broadsword so to speak . Destroy them if you must, but use reasoned argument to turn people away from them and their beliefs not shout and holler, or to set out to offend them in the way you wouldn't want people to offend you in return. Can't we only be offended if we allow ourselves to be, and can't those who try to offend us only do so if we allow ourselves to be offended by what they say or do? If what they say or do threatens us or ours than that something different altogether, and it is that where Trump is having his biggest impact, and why there is such opposition to him' You could argue on those terms why so many are opposed to open borders and uncontrolled immigration, that being that they threaten our culture our jobs, and our way of life with their own, which any sensible person will recognise that they do. Didn't the Add to dictionary |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 3 2017, 04:13 PM Post #1090 |
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Sorry I find this a bit confusing. You start off complaining about personal insults. Who have I insulted exactly? Besides which, freedom of speech means having the right to be offensive and insulting. If you don't like it don't listen. But you then seem to go on to complain about others taking offence. It seems to me like you want to have your cake and eat it. Being President of the USA i inevitably means putting yourself up for scrutiny unlike anyone else on Earth. Regardless of what decisions you make you will come in for flak. This isn't new, if you can't stand the heat...... |
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| Tytoalba | Feb 3 2017, 04:14 PM Post #1091 |
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Sorry about the last sentence to previous post Didn't the conquistadors effectively destroy the Aztecs, European settlers destroy the way of life in the USA and in Australia and New Zealand, and in Fiji haven't the immigrants from India now exceed in numbers the native population? What will happen when the Muslims in the UK exceed the Christians, do you not think that they will then be running our councils in some areas and eventually the government like the Indians did in Fiji? |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 3 2017, 04:15 PM Post #1092 |
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What's this got to do with Donald Trump? |
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| Steve K | Feb 3 2017, 04:17 PM Post #1093 |
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Try reading your own post 1050 http://w11.zetaboards.com/UK_Debate_Mk_2/single/?p=10030279&t=30124766 |
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| Rich | Feb 3 2017, 04:55 PM Post #1094 |
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Yes, and Jeremy Corbyn is testament to that......oh wait, was that a 3 line whip, you say?
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| xosg | Feb 3 2017, 05:01 PM Post #1095 |
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Besides which, freedom of speech means having the right to be offensive and insulting. If you don't like it don't listen. That's a bit rich coming from you lefties.Pity you don't practice what you preach on a daily basis Edited by xosg, Feb 3 2017, 05:02 PM.
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| marybrown | Feb 3 2017, 05:12 PM Post #1096 |
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Donald Trump is considering banning people with a dual British passport who have come from any of the countries that he has banned.. So Stevek..it is a British passport??? Edited by marybrown, Feb 3 2017, 05:31 PM.
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| Steve K | Feb 3 2017, 05:50 PM Post #1097 |
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Wha? Sorry don't understand but I know I've never seen a dual passport |
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| C-too | Feb 3 2017, 06:43 PM Post #1098 |
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My last comment should have ben a good indicator. NL were NOT a disaster for the country, so posting that they were suggests a lack of understanding, which may arise due to a lack of years on your part. i.e. you are possibly a rather young individual with strong opinions. And that would mean that any immaturity would be on your part. Alternatively you may be an older individual that has allowed biased insinuations in the Tory press to mould your opinions for you. Either way your comment made no sense. You say that NL created a chronic legacy that we are now trying to address. Does that mean that the chronic legacy that has befallen Western economise since 2008 and is now affecting world economies was created by NL ? Clearly that is not the case, so you must be missing out part of the equation. |
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| C-too | Feb 3 2017, 06:50 PM Post #1099 |
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I didn't say wealth did, but apparently Trump did say you can do this sort of thing when you are very rich. SO ONCE AGAIN YOU IGNORE THE CONTEXT AND RAMBLE ON DOWN SOME HIDE AWAY TANGENT.
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| C-too | Feb 3 2017, 06:53 PM Post #1100 |
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You can't impose a three line whip on public opinion.
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 3 2017, 07:54 PM Post #1101 |
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I'm not a leftie, I've never believed in partisan politics and recent events have only strengthened this belief. I see the right already beginning to repeat the same mistakes the left made, drunk on power, putting ideology before country, cracking down on dissent and dismissing anyone who disagrees as anti-democratic or "liberal elite" just as the keft used terms like "racist" for the same reason. Just watch as the so called liberal elite grows when the economic miracles promised by Trump and Brexiters fail to materialise. Then watch in a few years when the left climb back on top and do the exact same thing. The words might change but it's the same old song. |
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| Steve K | Feb 3 2017, 07:58 PM Post #1102 |
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I see he's not exactly turning around that net unpopularity http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx |
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| Tigger | Feb 3 2017, 09:09 PM Post #1103 |
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Yup! Just the thing for the weirdo loner interrupting the school run! And it has happened more than once, or is a .45 pistol better for taking out kids at close range?
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| Tigger | Feb 3 2017, 09:14 PM Post #1104 |
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Nail-head-hammer. I'm off to enjoy a bent banana whilst power hovering under an incandescent light bulb. |
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| Tigger | Feb 3 2017, 09:24 PM Post #1105 |
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"How the swamp draining and taking on the wall Street elites going Donald?" "Great! I've just signed some new legislation." "Gee Donald thanks! We'll never have to worry about out of control bankers dumping toxic financial products onto the global markets again." "Yup! I'm going to stop the annual stress tests and do away with the need to hold capital reserves that cover initial losses and I'll also make it harder to prosecute financial crooks, many of who are my new best friends." "Um........." "Sad! Unpatriotic! Loser!" You bunch of American fuckwits!
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| Steve K | Feb 3 2017, 09:31 PM Post #1106 |
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How is he going to tell his voters that if he really takes on Mexico and Canada then the lights go off as the USA imports a mere 66 thousand gigawatt hours net electricity a year https://www.eia.gov/electricity/annual/html/epa_02_13.html Awkward |
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| xosg | Feb 3 2017, 09:31 PM Post #1107 |
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You like to make out your not on the LEFT.But you are as left as Ctoo and Papa.As for the right cracking down on dissent.ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH,you wouldn't think so after last nights performance at UC Berkely. The police stood idly by and watched them attack people and damage property.Trump was right,any university that does not allow people with opposing views to speak may well have their federal funding stopped. Watch them all scramble now, let the blame game begin. Besides, the people will not put up with this shit much longer.If the government won't do nothing,the people will. Only a fool would take the "RIGHTS" silence as a weakness. If they start to demonstrate,all bets are off. REMEMBER they got all the guns,and not afraid to use them. Imagine this scenario,a masked lunatic running at you with a weapon,you shoot them dead.No court in America would convict in that situation.That would be the first of many |
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| xosg | Feb 3 2017, 09:33 PM Post #1108 |
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IF,IF and more IF's. He has been in office 2 weeks for fooksake |
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| Tigger | Feb 3 2017, 09:34 PM Post #1109 |
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You'd get the chair if you were black!
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| Rich | Feb 3 2017, 09:49 PM Post #1110 |
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But you can obviously be a hypocritical Labour party leader.....oh, so that is ok then. |
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| Steve K | Feb 3 2017, 09:52 PM Post #1111 |
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Well if we're talking about those events: Violent protest is wrong, very wrong even if it is about an arrogant arse like Milo Yiannopoulos who had indicated he intended to use his speech for illegal purpose. For that latter reason alone Berkeley was right to deny him the ability to speak. But nothing justifies some wished for repeat of Ohio 1970 |
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| xosg | Feb 3 2017, 10:06 PM Post #1112 |
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It's not as far out as you think.Just one more thing apparently these violent demonstrations are only being done in states where the gun is banned.Pity they don't do a few in concealed carry states don't ya think ? Don't think they would be to eager to attack anyone then,do you ? |
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| xosg | Feb 3 2017, 10:13 PM Post #1113 |
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Yiannopolous has been doing the university circuit for sometime so they know him rather well. He is not a political agitator. He is not a Wacist He is not a Nazi. Because he gives it back to the snowflakes twice as hard,they don't like it. Besides,even if he was a Nazi,Fascist,Racist the whole idea of a university is to listen to people and counter argue.These fookwit snowflakes have to go into the real world one day and work.They won't find they are protected by their safe spaces,or sets of Lego or Plasticine anymore. |
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| Tigger | Feb 3 2017, 10:14 PM Post #1114 |
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Have you just made that up? Tell me which states "the gun is banned"?
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| papasmurf | Feb 3 2017, 10:14 PM Post #1115 |
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I have never been a sympathiser of, member of, or proselytiser for any political party. That you think compassion is exclusively a left wing characteristic speaks volumes. |
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| xosg | Feb 3 2017, 10:15 PM Post #1116 |
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Well,in that scenario it could be classed as malicious
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| xosg | Feb 3 2017, 10:16 PM Post #1117 |
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Your to the left of Corbyn for fooksake
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| xosg | Feb 3 2017, 10:22 PM Post #1118 |
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California, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and Rhode Island. I should have said open carry is banned. Still,I bet the fookin pussies won't be attacking people so openly in the other states |
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| Tigger | Feb 3 2017, 10:32 PM Post #1119 |
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Oh right, you're changing your wording now? I think you'll find many of these states require you to get additional background checks before you can carry a handgun in public, you need a specific permit iirc, and why stop at a mere pistol? Rifles and shotguns are legal just about everywhere and the former is far more deadly in skilled hands. Snipers on tall buildings to put off lefty demonstrators? |
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| xosg | Feb 3 2017, 10:35 PM Post #1120 |
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you can open carry assault rifles in the US in some states also. I think regardless of background checks you are not allowed to open carry in those states,unless you are high profile of course Edited by xosg, Feb 3 2017, 10:37 PM.
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