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| Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM (1,614 Views) | |
| C-too | Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM Post #1 |
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Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election. No influence on the outcome because he says so IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.
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| Alberich | Jan 9 2017, 01:45 PM Post #81 |
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Of course we have to wait and see. But perhaps one can be forgiven if one questions the character of the man who would be king if he indulges in personal twitter fights with just about anyone who offends him. It's not...presidential"...is it? |
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| The Buccaneer | Jan 9 2017, 01:56 PM Post #82 |
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None of these are relevant to the opinions being expressed about Trump. The point here is that until he gets to be president and makes decisions, it'll only be if/when any of them affect the UK negatively, that we need to be concerned about, or is that too difficult to comprehend ? |
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| xosg | Jan 9 2017, 02:02 PM Post #83 |
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It is being peddled in the media now CNN (Clinton News Network ) MSNBC,ABC you know the non bised fake news networks. That the Obama administration had no scandals during his tenure LOL really Benghazi IRS targeting consevatives Fast and Furious ( gun running ) Support for ISIS Libya TO NAME BUT A FEW.These idiots need to come out of la la land into the real world |
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| Tytoalba | Jan 9 2017, 02:07 PM Post #84 |
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With what purpose and what difference will it make. No one on this board has a vote on his presidency. Is he opposed to something that is important to you or which you personally fear ? There seems to be less chance of a confrontation with Russia than there was before. |
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| Steve K | Jan 9 2017, 02:29 PM Post #85 |
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Actually when Trump talks of downgrading NATO and giving Putin carte blanche, those that think issues through know there is very much more chance of a confrontation with Putin. And last time I looked I have a vote in the UK and would like our government to take account of UK views on that misogynist lying egotistical abusive git when we send our lying egotistical idiot over to talk to his team. Edited by Steve K, Jan 9 2017, 02:30 PM.
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| C-too | Jan 9 2017, 03:17 PM Post #86 |
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I have seen plenty of Trump's immaturity on TV, certainly enough to form an opinion. Correct, it is none of our business, but that doesn't mean people can't form and express opinions. Is there some sort of Nazi Fascist PC control on the rise ? Edited by C-too, Jan 9 2017, 05:53 PM.
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| Affa | Jan 9 2017, 05:26 PM Post #87 |
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I'm not convinced it was as offensive as it has been made out to be. Trump is obviously 'in character', imitating what the reporter said and the mannerisms used when doing so. It's fair to express the comments that were made in the same manner that they were made. Now if Trump has repeated those comments affecting a Julian Clary mannerism, that would be offensive - to everyone except Julian C. Edited by Steve K, Jan 9 2017, 05:36 PM.
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| papasmurf | Jan 9 2017, 05:37 PM Post #88 |
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You may not be I am.
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| C-too | Jan 9 2017, 05:51 PM Post #89 |
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Sorry Affa, pointing out that someone is/maybe wrong is not a problem, indicating a disability is an insight into Trumps immaturity. For me, Trump is from the same nasty stable as Farage. |
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| Affa | Jan 9 2017, 06:13 PM Post #90 |
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I don't like Trump, distrust him immensely! But if you watch any public speaker, a good one, that uses anecdotal story telling, it is usual to do it 'in character'. He wasn't being complementary, for sure, but his motive wasn't to insult his disability but his argument. |
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| C-too | Jan 9 2017, 06:28 PM Post #91 |
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Imitating a disability is never a good thing, to do it while discrediting someone ? |
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| The Buccaneer | Jan 9 2017, 06:57 PM Post #92 |
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And me. |
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| Affa | Jan 9 2017, 10:23 PM Post #93 |
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That's a surprise ......... Edited by Affa, Jan 9 2017, 10:24 PM.
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| Tytoalba | Jan 9 2017, 11:16 PM Post #94 |
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Its ripostes like that that says it all They are the 'nice' people who seem to keep hatred of others in their armories.
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| Curious Cdn | Jan 9 2017, 11:30 PM Post #95 |
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/detroit-auto-show-protectionism-1.3924244 |
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| Deleted User | Jan 10 2017, 10:41 PM Post #96 |
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I have doubts about Donald . However I do enjoy the way he brings out the "disgusted of Tunbridge Wells ' in the lefty usual suspects. Trump speaks like the rough blue collar workers who tend not to act like maiden aunts when rough / crude words or actions are used. People who laugh at you...... |
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| Curious Cdn | Jan 11 2017, 01:12 AM Post #97 |
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Trump is highly overrated! "Barack Obama is not who you think he is. Most overrated politician in US history." Tweeted Oct. 15, 2012 "Donald Trump on Mark Levin: Karl Rove is one of the most overrated people in politics." Tweeted Feb. 24, 2013 "@kanikagahlaut: Can anyone explain why @JerrySeinfeld is so unfunny on twitter and @realDonaldTrump is so funny?" Jerry is highly overrated" Tweeted Apr 14, 2013 "I promise you that I'm much smarter than Jonathan Leibowitz - I mean Jon Stewart @TheDailyShow. Who, by the way, is totally overrated." Tweeted Apr. 24, 2013 "Do you ever notice that lightweight @megynkelly constantly goes after me but when I hit back it is totally sexist. She is highly overrated!" Tweeted Sept. 22, 2015 "George Will may be the dumbest (and most overrated) political commentator of all time. If the Republicans listen to him, they will lose." Tweeted May 27, 2012 "Do you believe that highly overrated political pundit @krauthammer said this is the best Republican field in 35 years. What a dope!" Tweeted July 9, 2015 "Marco Rubio is a total lightweight who I wouldn’t hire to run one of my smaller companies - a highly overrated politician!" Tweeted Nov. 9, 2015 "I always said that Debbie Wasserman Schultz was overrated. The Dems Convention is cracking up and Bernie is exhausted, no energy left!" Tweeted July 24, 2016 "No matter what Bill Clinton says and no matter how well he says it, the phony media will exclaim it to be incredible. Highly overrated! Tweeted July 26, 2016 "The cast and producers of Hamilton, which I hear is highly overrated, should immediately apologize to Mike Pence for their terrible behavior" Tweeted Nov. 20, 2016 "@Richard_Meier, a highly overrated architect, has had many problems with buildings he designed downtown--& others!" Tweeted Oct. 11, 2013 "Crooked Hillary's brainpower is highly overrated. Probably why her decision making is so bad or, as stated by Bernie S, she has BAD JUDGEMENT" Tweeted Aug. 29, 2016 "Meryl Streep, one of the most over-rated actresses in Hollywood, doesn't know me but attacked last night at the Golden Globes. She is a....." Tweeted Jan. 9, 2017 |
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| C-too | Jan 11 2017, 10:13 AM Post #98 |
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The Denigrator General, determined to expose his immaturity.
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| Steve K | Jan 11 2017, 06:09 PM Post #99 |
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The latest news is just hilarious Trump spent the last year making fake news allegations about his opponents knowing full well that mud sticks and he'd gain. Now he's seriously upset about what appears to be fake news allegations about him Biter bit and whining
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| RoofGardener | Jan 11 2017, 06:31 PM Post #100 |
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Meh.... the stories about him are highly over-rated
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| Steve K | Jan 11 2017, 06:33 PM Post #101 |
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| Tytoalba | Jan 11 2017, 10:28 PM Post #102 |
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But now the election is over and Trump is to be inaugurated into the presidency in 9 days time, does any of it matter? He has powerful supporters to help maintain his position, and stay he will, for there does not seem to be anything in law to challenge him and he has the party majority in both houses of the American government. Like our Brexit campaign that is also decided, it seems there is a modern phenomena of attacking something for the sake of it, or for poor loser spite. |
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| Steve K | Jan 11 2017, 10:56 PM Post #103 |
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It matters if he loses the Hill and a lot of commentators say he will. We're in Trump v Ryan proxy war time already |
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| Tytoalba | Jan 11 2017, 11:11 PM Post #104 |
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If's a big word in politics, and commentators who are almost invariably biased, are looking to make a story. Why do the losers today make such a loud noise and winners invariably challenged on their integrity. We will eventually reach a stage that everyone will have to carry a certificate to shoe that they are squeaky clean and politically correct before seeking public office, leaving everyone afraid to stand. Something quite unpleasant is taking place today IMO, with its constant finger pointing and dreamed up allegations and accusations. |
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| C-too | Jan 12 2017, 06:43 AM Post #105 |
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Defending the Denigrator General, turning a blind eye to his failings and then pouring scorn on those who don't, is not a commendable position to take. |
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| C-too | Jan 12 2017, 10:57 AM Post #106 |
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The more I hear from Trump the more it is beginning to dawn on me is that his attraction to the electorate is based upon the ---conspiracy mind set. --- Everything is bad because everyone is bad except himself and his conspiracy minded supporters.
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| Tytoalba | Jan 12 2017, 11:04 AM Post #107 |
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There is such a thing as being objective, and then facing the reality of the what is. What matters is, Is he going to be the next president of the United states of America. If so we are stuck with him for the next four years, or even eight. What we have is impeachment by the press and the media and those that are opposed to him, when the only impeachment that matters is by Congress, and that is unlikely to happen. Do you feel empowered by criticising the next most powerful man in the world? Courage Mon Brave. Let us count down and see what happens with just Eight days to go to put us out of our misery. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxvR7ZUjaJk |
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| Curious Cdn | Jan 12 2017, 11:05 AM Post #108 |
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American democracy is in grave peril. Mein Kampf is based on a conspiracy theory, too. |
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| Affa | Jan 12 2017, 12:00 PM Post #109 |
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Well it is so ,____ exactly as you describe. It would be naive to imagine that the political class would not use social media, the internet, to get their own pov across and to influence procedure. To do it without integrity is expected. |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 12 2017, 12:14 PM Post #110 |
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That's what concerns me, he seems to be very thin skinned, which is not a desirebale quality in any politician. When you add that to his apparent impulse control problems and the fact that he will soon be in command of the world's most powerful military, well, doesn't make a good sleeping pill. |
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| Tytoalba | Jan 12 2017, 12:16 PM Post #111 |
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The more the idealistic liberal left oppose Trump the more I shall support him. If they don't like him then the more he must be needed. They were the reason we have Brexit and the rise of the right wing across Europe They just cannot understand that their brand of stifling dictatorial controlling extremism is not wanted. If he goes too far in what he does they are the ones that led to his election. Will they believe it? Of course not , for they think themselves to be always right, and anything else contrary to their own beliefs is anathema to them. |
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| Tytoalba | Jan 12 2017, 12:34 PM Post #112 |
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"Again people are looking for scapegoats. But this time the attack comes not from the outside but from within, from extremist splinter groups of the New Left made up of students and—I am sorry to acknowledge—also of some faculty who would like to see our colleges and universities denigrated, maligned and even shut down. They insinuate, distort, accuse, their aim being not to identify and correct real abuses, but always rather by crying alarm intentionally to arouse and inflame passions in order to build support for "non-negotiable demands." Clearly the old McCarthy technique is at work again…. It is more difficult to maintain a realistic sense of human limitation, to refuse to become frustrated and angry; to analyze, to assess, to seek to understand and explain; to determine to be adult and fair; and thus to work patiently to improve while refusing to succumb to either cynicism or hopelessness. It is the long way around, but it is the civilized way, and the only way for those [who] have come truly to understand the role of humane learning." Nathan Marsh Pusey, |
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| C-too | Jan 12 2017, 12:38 PM Post #113 |
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Being objective means looking at the full picture, which is something you apparently do not want to do. |
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| Happy Hornet | Jan 12 2017, 12:43 PM Post #114 |
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That strikes me as a very dangerous philosophy. The enemy of your enemy isn't necessarily your friend. Trump is a case in point, he supposedly stands up for the little guy against the tyranny of an out of touch political elite, then fills his cabinet with billionaires. It's beyond parody. |
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| Affa | Jan 12 2017, 12:43 PM Post #115 |
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That's because you are tribalist! Nothing you have added alters that observation. All of us could learn more if we were able to see ourselves as others see us. I offer you that insight, in hope (not expectation) that you learn from it. |
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| Tytoalba | Jan 12 2017, 12:44 PM Post #116 |
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Why do you use your negative opinions of others as argument? Would you like me to reciprocate in similar terms? |
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| Steve K | Jan 12 2017, 12:48 PM Post #117 |
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But the fact is your posts above are consistently of the theme that Trump should not be subject to scrutiny or challenge Well tough luck he is certainly going to get both |
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| Tytoalba | Jan 12 2017, 12:53 PM Post #118 |
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He's neither my enemy nor my friend, and he has not taken office and implemented policies to be able to judge his administration. Do you not think the the majority of his opposition is coming from the liberal left from the supporters of Clinton and Obama? Objectivity requires that we wait and see Do we currently have any other choice, other than to gratuitously abuse him? |
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| Tytoalba | Jan 12 2017, 01:00 PM Post #119 |
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My remarks were general, yours are personal. Here is another saying.Do not underestimate those you see as your enemies, like the Remainers and Cameron did in our referendum. or made forecasts about the USA elections. |
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| C-too | Jan 12 2017, 01:08 PM Post #120 |
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I was pointing out an obvious truth, not an opinion, so why are you complaining ? Edited by C-too, Jan 12 2017, 01:09 PM.
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IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.



They are the 'nice' people who seem to keep hatred of others in their armories.


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