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| Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM (1,584 Views) | |
| C-too | Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM Post #1 |
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Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election. No influence on the outcome because he says so IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 7 2017, 11:56 AM Post #1281 |
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I wouldn't want a state visit for any of those you have listed. |
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| xosg | Feb 7 2017, 11:58 AM Post #1282 |
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TRUMP a snowflake,heard it all now
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| xosg | Feb 7 2017, 12:00 PM Post #1283 |
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Do you just want to ban everyone who disagrees with you or does something you don't like ? Hardly a liberal democrat are you ? As you keep stating
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| Curious Cdn | Feb 7 2017, 12:03 PM Post #1284 |
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We have the same system as you do. How do you suppose that your PM became PM? Did the fairies airlift her in? I never, ever said that your PM is directly chosen in a general election. If you re-read it again, you will see that the party that forms a government elects the Prime Minister. Edited by Curious Cdn, Feb 7 2017, 12:04 PM.
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| Tigger | Feb 7 2017, 12:04 PM Post #1285 |
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Whatever...........
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| Steve K | Feb 7 2017, 12:04 PM Post #1286 |
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Of course no one wants "to ban everyone who disagrees" But most intelligent people would think that we shouldn't give lying, bigoted, misogynistic, arrogant would be despots the highest respect. |
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| Curious Cdn | Feb 7 2017, 12:06 PM Post #1287 |
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Trump is VERY sauncitive and if you say something to him that he doesn't agree with, he explodes into a rage. |
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| Tigger | Feb 7 2017, 12:07 PM Post #1288 |
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Rubbish, rule is by consent, unless you live in places like Russia or Saudi Arabia for example. No surprise right wingers think differently. |
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| Tytoalba | Feb 7 2017, 12:07 PM Post #1289 |
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Its all part and parcel of international meetings and association, You set the agenda for all and practice what is decided for all, not on your own terms. If you want to hold the high ground you set the right examples. To be objective you have to set your own emotions aside. How long does a state visit last, Three days? |
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| Tigger | Feb 7 2017, 12:10 PM Post #1290 |
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Tell us about Colonial India again? You know the version that is in no history book.
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| Tytoalba | Feb 7 2017, 12:11 PM Post #1291 |
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Its all part and parcel of international meetings and association, You set the agenda for all and practice what is decided for all, not on your own terms. If you want to hold the high ground you set the right examples. To be objective you have to set your own emotions aside. How long does a state visit last, Three days? |
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| xosg | Feb 7 2017, 12:11 PM Post #1292 |
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And you call Trump a DESPOT,get real.You put him in the same category as the Chinese,N Koreans.Sad Sad people,you Trump haters really are. |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 7 2017, 12:12 PM Post #1293 |
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He's incredibly thin skinned, can dish it out but can't take it. |
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| xosg | Feb 7 2017, 12:12 PM Post #1294 |
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ALL GOVERNMENTS RULE BY FORCE It's just a matter of who the people elect that is different
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 7 2017, 12:14 PM Post #1295 |
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Didn't say I want to ban anyone and didn't say I was a Liberal Democrat. More alternative facts? |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 7 2017, 12:15 PM Post #1296 |
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Except of course he didn't say that. |
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| xosg | Feb 7 2017, 12:15 PM Post #1297 |
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I call it,hitting back twice as hard.Trump is not a contempory President,he has broken the mould and is actually doing what he was ELECTED for,I know you don't like to hear it,but that 's life |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 7 2017, 12:16 PM Post #1298 |
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Except it isn't, not all international meetings are state visits, in fact most aren't. |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 7 2017, 12:18 PM Post #1299 |
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He was elected to defend and uphold the constitution, how's he doing on that one? He also said he was gonna take on Wall Street but now appears to be rolling over for them. Edited by Happy Hornet, Feb 7 2017, 12:18 PM.
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| xosg | Feb 7 2017, 12:20 PM Post #1300 |
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He is implying it with that last sentence.He doesn't have to name,to see he is subtly implying the narrative of trump.Why else use them words in a debate about Trump ? |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 7 2017, 12:21 PM Post #1301 |
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Maybe let other people decide what their opinions are and debate what they actually say? |
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| Tigger | Feb 7 2017, 12:23 PM Post #1302 |
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Prove it then! |
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| xosg | Feb 7 2017, 12:24 PM Post #1303 |
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I don't know,I'm not a yank,neither are you.I would prefer if one of the 63 million who voted for him answered that.Not a bunch of screaming,manic liberals if you don't mind
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| Tigger | Feb 7 2017, 12:26 PM Post #1304 |
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This is what will bring Trump down in my opinion, just like with Brexit those that expect meaningful change will only get more of the same, with rockets attached. |
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| Tytoalba | Feb 7 2017, 12:29 PM Post #1305 |
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I gave you a link to the school I went to which is currently one of the best in Pakistan, run on almost identical lines as when the British left. Read about it. There are many TV programmes about the Indian railways which were built by the British and about the tea plantations they left and so much more Look it up for yourself. If you spent a little bit more of your time looking for the good , and a bit less looking for the bad, you might be happier in your life. Try reading Bugles and Tigers by John Masters as a small taste of the British in India. |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 7 2017, 12:29 PM Post #1306 |
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Its my view that in a few years working class Americans will look back fondly on the days when the elite merely ignored them. |
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| Steve K | Feb 7 2017, 12:31 PM Post #1307 |
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Well to be clear he has the same morals as a despot and would be one if he could He believes in lying to gain office, undermining the judiciary when in office and the use of torture and extra judicial killings as being just fine Sure sounds like someone who aspires to be 'a ruler or other person who holds absolute power, typically one who exercises it in a cruel or oppressive way.' |
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| Tytoalba | Feb 7 2017, 12:33 PM Post #1308 |
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Your not respecting the man, your respecting the office he holds. Ban the man and you disrespect the office and all those that voted for him. Why make enemies when a friend in need is a friend indeed, |
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| xosg | Feb 7 2017, 12:34 PM Post #1309 |
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Lets take just one example. POLL TAX - Although most of the country was again'st it,it was brought in.It doesn't matter what government brought it in for the benefit of this debate. If you don't pay you get punished,simple. thereby forcing people to pay up,not of their own free will. When you are forced to do anything again'st your free will with the threat of force and punishment hanging over it,that is FORCE. The above is a minor point. Anyone or anything that offers punishment for not obeying is using the law as force.Every law is a force for you to comply. You could use the same analogy to children.You create rules for them when growing up,if they break those rules there will be consequences. Technically you are forcing those children/electorate to do what you want. BTW I amnot aain'st it I believe in laws before you start mouthing I want a lawless society.In fact I would go further than you on punishment. I am just saying, governments rule by force |
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| Tigger | Feb 7 2017, 12:34 PM Post #1310 |
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Jesus Christ. I'm not going over the millions who starved to death due to wilful neglect, again, nor the mutinies, civil unrest and political turmoil. Ironically you've rather proved the point that some folks are utterly incapable of seeing anything but their own narrow and highly subjective POV! |
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| Ewill | Feb 7 2017, 12:35 PM Post #1311 |
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You have constantly referred to her as an ''unelected'' Prime Minister Mps are elected PMs are not Primus inter pares |
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| Tytoalba | Feb 7 2017, 12:36 PM Post #1312 |
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Breaking the law results in sanctions. Sanctions are an exercise in force. |
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| Tytoalba | Feb 7 2017, 12:39 PM Post #1313 |
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Your still smarting over your own families colonial past. Your still shackled by it and need to get over it. |
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| xosg | Feb 7 2017, 12:42 PM Post #1314 |
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That is all I am saying,"that every government rules by force" but yours truly as usual tries to claim the higher ground. Sometimes I think yours truly (you know who I mean) should really THINK about what people are actually saying instead of jumping in with both feet.again'st highly informed individuals. (waiting for the flak)
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| Steve K | Feb 7 2017, 12:44 PM Post #1315 |
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Who said "ban the man"? Not I, not sure anyone did |
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| Tigger | Feb 7 2017, 12:49 PM Post #1316 |
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And of course many refused to pay it, especially in Scotland that got to try it out first, and of course there were riots and protests, and do you know why? Because millions of people took away the CONSENT to have this forced upon them! The Poll Tax was killed off shortly afterwards. |
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| Tigger | Feb 7 2017, 12:52 PM Post #1317 |
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I have no colonial past in my family and I'm probably more English than you by blood, before you imply otherwise. I like the truth, not some Barbera Cartlandesque rose tinted view of history............ |
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| Steve K | Feb 7 2017, 01:01 PM Post #1318 |
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Says the poster who affects to detest personal insults
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| xosg | Feb 7 2017, 01:03 PM Post #1319 |
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It is totally irrelevant to the argument.People are jailed/punished for not paying.That is the whole point I am making,I can't see where your argument is coming from
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| xosg | Feb 7 2017, 01:05 PM Post #1320 |
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There you go again PRESUMING
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IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.



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