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D Trump; + merges
Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM (1,579 Views)
C-too
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Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election.

No influence on the outcome because he says so !jk! IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.
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Feb 15 2017, 08:38 PM
This tweet is interesting

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/831846101179314177
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Crimea was TAKEN by Russia during the Obama Administration. Was Obama too soft on Russia?

A change in policy re Putin now that Flynn's gone?


Did Trump ever condone the annexation of Crimea by Russia?
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Feb 15 2017, 08:47 PM
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Feb 15 2017, 08:38 PM
This tweet is interesting

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/831846101179314177
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Crimea was TAKEN by Russia during the Obama Administration. Was Obama too soft on Russia?

A change in policy re Putin now that Flynn's gone?
With any luck, but there may be more Commie lovers in Trump's team.


Russia stopped being commies years ago. How retro of you ;D
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Feb 15 2017, 08:46 PM

It simply illustrates how the 'liberals' bitter demonisation of Trump is subjective not objective. He reflects their impotence and hypocrisy.



Impotence? :rubchin:

There seems to be an ample supply of ammunition that's been left laying around for opponents of Trump to use against him.

And the drip drip of dubious behaviour and susppect friends is doing his reputation no good at all, he can't go on like this forever, especially when the new team in the swamp starts stiffing the dim American voters who cheered this on.
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Feb 15 2017, 08:46 PM
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Feb 15 2017, 08:34 PM
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Feb 15 2017, 08:27 PM

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And so what?

Surely Trump is one that (not being dead) can be held to account and then in future others will remember what is to them the past and know that being a lying little slimeball won't get them the enduring glory they might also crave.


So what if the lefties want to concentrate on hating the slimeball that won rather than the slimeball that lost?
It simply illustrates how the 'liberals' bitter demonisation of Trump is subjective not objective. He reflects their impotence and hypocrisy.
For instance on a dire music award ceremony the other night a large black man was performing some doggerel set to music called Rap 'music' and constantly referred to President Trump as 'Agent Orange' an obvious abusive remark about the colour of his skin. No one there seemed to mind or object.
Now I wonder how many of these so called liberals would accept Obama being called a rusty wing nut...which actually describes his head perfectly

Trump is called Agent Orange because he chose at times to fake tan himself that idiot colour

Completely different from being born a colour

If you can't tell the difference between Hilary lying once many years ago and the ongoing intensive lying and apparent illegality that Trump perpetrates, then it's really not worth debating this is it.
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Feb 15 2017, 08:54 PM


Russia stopped being commies years ago. How retro of you ;D
Russia has just had a rebranding exercise, the basics are unchanged.
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Russia stopped being commies years ago. How retro of you ;D
Russia has just had a rebranding exercise, the basics are unchanged.


Nope. Give the old USSR its due, it did seek to stay a socialist society( even if it were a sham ) right up until it couldnt pretend anymore.
Todays Russia is an uber capitalist oligarchy. It doesnt pretend it exists for workers.
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Feb 15 2017, 09:06 PM
It doesnt pretend it exists for workers.
Like I said, just like the old Russia.............
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Feb 15 2017, 08:46 PM

It simply illustrates how the 'liberals' bitter demonisation of Trump is subjective not objective. He reflects their impotence and hypocrisy.



Impotence? :rubchin:

There seems to be an ample supply of ammunition that's been left laying around for opponents of Trump to use against him.

And the drip drip of dubious behaviour and susppect friends is doing his reputation no good at all, he can't go on like this forever, especially when the new team in the swamp starts stiffing the dim American voters who cheered this on.


You forgot hypocrisy too. The Left are as impotent as the sheikh who's camel herder is shagging his concubines ..and just as bitter
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"attacking the current leader of North Korea"

Not a bad idea though. ;-)
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Feb 15 2017, 09:08 PM
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Feb 15 2017, 09:06 PM
It doesnt pretend it exists for workers.
Like I said, just like the old Russia.............


Ah you forgot that Russia was part of the USSR since the early 1900s and realise that todays Russia is different from the USSR and are backpeddling.
Perhaps you are mixing up Putin and (rara ) Rasputin.
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Feb 15 2017, 08:55 PM
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Feb 15 2017, 08:46 PM
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Feb 15 2017, 08:34 PM

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So what if the lefties want to concentrate on hating the slimeball that won rather than the slimeball that lost?
It simply illustrates how the 'liberals' bitter demonisation of Trump is subjective not objective. He reflects their impotence and hypocrisy.
For instance on a dire music award ceremony the other night a large black man was performing some doggerel set to music called Rap 'music' and constantly referred to President Trump as 'Agent Orange' an obvious abusive remark about the colour of his skin. No one there seemed to mind or object.
Now I wonder how many of these so called liberals would accept Obama being called a rusty wing nut...which actually describes his head perfectly

Trump is called Agent Orange because he chose at times to fake tan himself that idiot colour

Completely different from being born a colour

If you can't tell the difference between Hilary lying once many years ago and the ongoing intensive lying and apparent illegality that Trump perpetrates, then it's really not worth debating this is it.


Nope he is being called agent Orange because he is a white man Its not worth debating though.
Hillary lied more than once and there is no reason to think that she wouldnt be lying now.
Also Obama chose to look like a rusty wing nut..he could have got those ears pinned
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Feb 15 2017, 09:12 PM


Ah you forgot that Russia was part of the USSR since the early 1900s and realise that todays Russia is different from the USSR and are backpeddling.
Perhaps you are mixing up Putin and (rara ) Rasputin.
Whatever, it's still a repressive state that needs a thuggish strongman to keep it together and is unlikely to thrive in a meaningful way until all the above changes.
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Feb 15 2017, 09:28 PM
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Ah you forgot that Russia was part of the USSR since the early 1900s and realise that todays Russia is different from the USSR and are backpeddling.
Perhaps you are mixing up Putin and (rara ) Rasputin.
Whatever, it's still a repressive state that needs a thuggish strongman to keep it together and is unlikely to thrive in a meaningful way until all the above changes.


Whatever?
Look beyond Russia and you will see a jolly large country called China.........

Meaningful? !jk!
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Feb 15 2017, 09:31 PM


Whatever?
Look beyond Russia and you will see a jolly large country called China.........

Meaningful? !jk!
And of course China lifts on average 30 million people a year out of poverty, sadly your beloved Russia is heading in the other direction!

I wonder why that is? :)
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Trump is now only Evens to survive his first term

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/donald-trump-specials/trump-to-leave-before-end-of-1st-term
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No matter what anyone else has done, Trump is the newly elected president. He has opened the door for criticism of himself in more ways than one. Criticism (and credit where due) is to be expected in a thread about him. The 'cancelling out' approach is old hat, irrelevant and accomplishes nothing more than muddying the waters.
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Feb 15 2017, 09:35 PM
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Whatever?
Look beyond Russia and you will see a jolly large country called China.........

Meaningful? !jk!
And of course China lifts on average 30 million people a year out of poverty, sadly your beloved Russia is heading in the other direction!

I wonder why that is? :)


Really? China lifts 30 million people who were otherwise poor ( not because of Chinese totalitarian policies ) out of poverty every year?
Pass the Koolaid old chap ;D
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Feb 15 2017, 09:41 PM
No matter what anyone else has done, Trump is the newly elected president. He has opened the door for criticism of himself in more ways than one. Criticism (and credit where due) is to be expected in a thread about him. The 'cancelling out' approach is old hat, irrelevant and accomplishes nothing more than muddying the waters.


No old chappie. History is relevant to what happens today ( something you seem to espouse every time you post about Israel or Islam) so what past presidents have done is quite relevant to what present ones do.
I wont respond to your reply because I cannot see any point tbh
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Feb 15 2017, 09:35 PM
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Feb 15 2017, 09:31 PM


Whatever?
Look beyond Russia and you will see a jolly large country called China.........

Meaningful? !jk!
And of course China lifts on average 30 million people a year out of poverty, sadly your beloved Russia is heading in the other direction!

I wonder why that is? :)
Populism .

... and incompetent populist leadership.
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Feb 15 2017, 01:11 PM
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No exceptions, no anything. There is absolutely noting we can do about his election or his remaining.
We are but onlookers to events outside our control, happening 5000 miles away in a different county.
Getting worked up about him is pointless.
Attacking Trump is about as much use as attacking the current leader of North Korea.
He is the leader of probably the most powerful country in the world and you think we should just ignore him ? Can't you see that, as you so often do, you are just attempting to defend what you wish to defend without looking at the full picture ?

I will make honest comments on both Trump and North Korea.
Tell me what you can do about him and I will listen with an open mind . I'm not defending him, I am accepting him until the people who may be able to do something about him do something.
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Feb 15 2017, 11:10 PM
I am accepting him until the people who may be able to do something about him do something.
That'll be the US intelligence community right? I can't recall any previous president having such a bad relationship with this vital arm of the state.

They probably know a lot more about Trump than he knows about himself.......
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I am accepting him until the people who may be able to do something about him do something.
That'll be the US intelligence community right? I can't recall any previous president having such a bad relationship with this vital arm of the state.

They probably know a lot more about Trump than he knows about himself.......
I've been wondering what they will do with an impeached President that has committed high treason. Will he go to Leavenworth for the rest of his life, will be get a lethal injection or will he be spirited away to Moscow, to live out the rest of his life with his Oligarch shareholders?
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He is the leader of probably the most powerful country in the world and you think we should just ignore him ? Can't you see that, as you so often do, you are just attempting to defend what you wish to defend without looking at the full picture ?

I will make honest comments on both Trump and North Korea.
Tell me what you can do about him and I will listen with an open mind . I'm not defending him, I am accepting him until the people who may be able to do something about him do something.
Why make such an obviously silly request ?

Turning a blind eye to the questionable actions and comments by Trump, is defending him. Perhaps if you really did have an "open mind" you would remember that we live in a free country and are free to make comments.

Edited by C-too, Feb 16 2017, 08:46 AM.
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Whatever?
Look beyond Russia and you will see a jolly large country called China.........

Meaningful? !jk!
And of course China lifts on average 30 million people a year out of poverty, sadly your beloved Russia is heading in the other direction!

I wonder why that is? :)
Populism .

... and incompetent populist leadership.
The introduction into the economy of some capitalist ideas ?
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Tell me what you can do about him and I will listen with an open mind . I'm not defending him, I am accepting him until the people who may be able to do something about him do something.
Why make such an obviously silly request ?

Turning a blind eye to the questionable actions and comments by Trump, is defending him. Perhaps if you really did have an "open mind" you would remember that we live in a free country and are free to make comments.

Yes, but back to the silly question. What can you do about him not remaining president? It is a relevant question, and I know you like posters to give answers to those asked.
Shall I help you out? Zilch, ,Zero, nowt, and that applies to all of us.
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Why make such an obviously silly request ?

Turning a blind eye to the questionable actions and comments by Trump, is defending him. Perhaps if you really did have an "open mind" you would remember that we live in a free country and are free to make comments.

Yes, but back to the silly question. What can you do about him not remaining president? It is a relevant question, and I know you like posters to give answers to those asked.
Shall I help you out? Zilch, ,Zero, nowt, and that applies to all of us.
Nope, "every little helps". Starting with dissuading our PM from cuddling up close to such a lying law breaking slimeball.
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Why make such an obviously silly request ?

Turning a blind eye to the questionable actions and comments by Trump, is defending him. Perhaps if you really did have an "open mind" you would remember that we live in a free country and are free to make comments.

Yes, but back to the silly question. What can you do about him not remaining president? It is a relevant question, and I know you like posters to give answers to those asked.
Shall I help you out? Zilch, ,Zero, nowt, and that applies to all of us.
So should we only discuss matters that we personally can directly influence?
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Populism .

... and incompetent populist leadership.
The introduction into the economy of some capitalist ideas ?
Capitalism is dangerous, apparently , when it's introduced to a Thugocracy like Russia. The robber barons end up owning everything (including Trump's ass).
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Yes, but back to the silly question. What can you do about him not remaining president? It is a relevant question, and I know you like posters to give answers to those asked.
Shall I help you out? Zilch, ,Zero, nowt, and that applies to all of us.
Nope, "every little helps". Starting with dissuading our PM from cuddling up close to such a lying law breaking slimeball.
I fail to see how a close relationship with Trump can do any harm to the UK but having a bad relationship could be against our interest.

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I fail to see how a close relationship with Trump can do any harm to the UK.
That you can't, I find worrying.
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Nope, "every little helps". Starting with dissuading our PM from cuddling up close to such a lying law breaking slimeball.
I fail to see how a close relationship with Trump can do any harm to the UK but having a bad relationship could be against our interest.

Tony Blair had a great relationship with George W Bush, how did that work out for us in your opinion?
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Why make such an obviously silly request ?

Turning a blind eye to the questionable actions and comments by Trump, is defending him. Perhaps if you really did have an "open mind" you would remember that we live in a free country and are free to make comments.
Yes, but back to the silly question. What can you do about him not remaining president? It is a relevant question, and I know you like posters to give answers to those asked.
Shall I help you out? Zilch, ,Zero, nowt, and that applies to all of us.
It wasn't just a silly request because, as I had never claimed I could do anything about him "not remaining president", it was also a inappropriate request. A product of your ongoing attempt to divert any comments that give an insight into the reality of the man.
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I fail to see how a close relationship with Trump can do any harm to the UK but having a bad relationship could be against our interest.

Tony Blair had a great relationship with George W Bush, how did that work out for us in your opinion?
Well..Tony Blair was a war monger..and he was sucking up to Bush...Just the sort of meat that Cannon fodder needs..
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Nope, "every little helps". Starting with dissuading our PM from cuddling up close to such a lying law breaking slimeball.
I fail to see how a close relationship with Trump can do any harm to the UK but having a bad relationship could be against our interest.
Maybe it will, maybe it won't, but it does reveal to the world that the UK is standing here with its trousers around its ankles.
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Maybe it will, maybe it won't, but it does reveal to the world that the UK is standing here with its trousers around its ankles.
Precisely.
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Tony Blair had a great relationship with George W Bush, how did that work out for us in your opinion?
Well..Tony Blair was a war monger..and he was sucking up to Bush...Just the sort of meat that Cannon fodder needs..
Over the top band waggon nonsense.
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Well..Tony Blair was a war monger..and he was sucking up to Bush...Just the sort of meat that Cannon fodder needs..
Over the top band waggon nonsense.
Not really...''soldiers'' were being basically being recruited in Markets in the North of England..18 to 19 year olds..very poor wages there.so I suppose the prospect of getting £300 a week would have been quite alluring..Watched their funeral processions go by..
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As far as I am concerned The President is not the power some believe he is.
Other forces exist to ensure the office behaves in the national interest.
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Yes, but back to the silly question. What can you do about him not remaining president? It is a relevant question, and I know you like posters to give answers to those asked.
Shall I help you out? Zilch, ,Zero, nowt, and that applies to all of us.
Nope, "every little helps". Starting with dissuading our PM from cuddling up close to such a lying law breaking slimeball.
That's just delusional IMO. If the 1.5 million votes in the online petition were unable to change her mind on inviting him, what hope have you of doing so?
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Nope, "every little helps". Starting with dissuading our PM from cuddling up close to such a lying law breaking slimeball.
I fail to see how a close relationship with Trump can do any harm to the UK but having a bad relationship could be against our interest.

I cant see anything wrong with him having a good relationship with Putin and Russia. Its about time we overcame the mutual suspicions and paranoia and the waste of money spent on armaments.
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