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| Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM (1,574 Views) | |
| C-too | Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM Post #1 |
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Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election. No influence on the outcome because he says so IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.
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| Steve K | Feb 20 2017, 06:30 PM Post #1681 |
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Not at all. There's is something very disturbing about the man with the nuclear button getting confused between a report about historical events and what is happening when he hears it. I see he's now lying his arse off by trying to say the media were saying all is wonderful in Sweden. No Donald they were saying you were making up a load of bollocks about Sweden on Friday. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/833686030679207936 He needs sectioning. |
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| Curious Cdn | Feb 20 2017, 06:56 PM Post #1682 |
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I looked at Fox a few hours ago and they are busily trying to conjure up some combination of internet posts to PROVE that something happened in Sweden. I remember reading a piece from one of the idealists that created the WorldWide Web musing that the free flow of information would enhance our democracies and accerate us all to an utopian end. What didn't anticipate to admit was a significant part of the human race are such unapologetic liars and cheats that the end result is terra x terra x terrabytes of useless dreck. Edited by Curious Cdn, Feb 20 2017, 06:57 PM.
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| xosg | Feb 20 2017, 07:09 PM Post #1683 |
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Go look at Sweden on YOUTUBE then call him a liar |
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| Deleted User | Feb 20 2017, 07:32 PM Post #1684 |
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Threatened headteacher is in the news today. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4241836/Headteacher-victim-Trojan-Horse-style-plot.html Local council is too scared to say jack shit. |
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| Steve K | Feb 20 2017, 07:35 PM Post #1685 |
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No you show us what supposedly happened in Sweden on Friday night that justifies his outburst In this case though he's wasn't lying at the time, just mentally deranged |
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| C-too | Feb 20 2017, 09:00 PM Post #1686 |
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It seems clear to me that Chomsky is typical of the naïve do-gooders who damage reality by attempting to be too good for this world. The comment in the picture is silliness personified, well over the top. Unfortunately he does influence some people. He could have been a founder member of the Magic Wand Brigade. |
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| Steve K | Feb 20 2017, 09:25 PM Post #1687 |
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And here's the disturbing thing: All this made up Swedish stories exposed and even Fox News decrying his Mugabe style attack on the press and what happens? His net approval rating improves to +42 -53 http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx As Mencken put it: "no one got poor underestimating the American public" |
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| papasmurf | Feb 20 2017, 09:42 PM Post #1688 |
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Chomsky a "naïve do-gooder?" Are you being serious? https://www.democracynow.org/2017/1/2/noam_chomsky_with_trump_election_we |
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| Rich | Feb 20 2017, 10:07 PM Post #1689 |
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Oh no,please, not another tennis player.
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| The Buccaneer | Feb 20 2017, 11:22 PM Post #1690 |
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This is a man confused and with no real grasp of perspective or proportion if he genuinely believes he can equate the backlash against politically correct, patronisingly faked anguish and the constant need to virtue-signal whilst claiming the MHG. He is the epitome of why there is such a backlash in the first place, the willingness to ditch patriotism for pseudo 'care' for the 'underprivileged' via the usual route of liberal guilt. Little more than a vociferous Quisling in effect. |
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| Gnikkk | Feb 21 2017, 05:49 AM Post #1691 |
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They are estimates, some will exaggerate but they are not lies. Really people you need to get a handle on this word lie. Edited by Gnikkk, Feb 21 2017, 05:53 AM.
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| Gnikkk | Feb 21 2017, 05:50 AM Post #1692 |
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You need to listen with unbiased ears about his Swedish comment. You also need to find out what is happening in Sweden not just one night but every night. Easy to take thing absolutely literally if one needs to. Numbers of supporters are a bit like trying to find a bexit supporter, would you show up if someone was going to have a go at you? A sort who cannot accept democracy at any cost. |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 21 2017, 06:18 AM Post #1693 |
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I didn't use the word lie, I said his claims are demonstrably untrue which for me puts serious doubt on the idea that he is honest. |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 21 2017, 06:22 AM Post #1694 |
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Its nothing to with accepting democracy, I've never once questioned or disputed Trump's election win. But winning an election doesn't put one above criticism, nor should it. Measures such as the Washington metro passenger count and television ratings show that Trump's claims are untrue. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 21 2017, 07:24 AM Post #1695 |
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So Sweden is still the same lovely place it has always been. Phew I'm relieved because I had got the impression that too much immigration and far left feminist policies had completely ruined it for the true Swedes. Damn you Donald Trump! I know some people don't like vid clips here but please force yourselves to watch this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1_viPSD-bY |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 21 2017, 08:24 AM Post #1696 |
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Of course nobody said that Sweden was a problem free utopia, just that there was no terrorist incident in Sweden last Friday, just like there was no Bowling Green massacre. Funny how right wingers who rant and rave about PC and insist on calling a spade a spade get all upset when you call a liar a liar. Oh sorry, they are not lies, they are "alternative facts". Musn't use the word lie in case some poor, delicate, right wing snowflake gets offended. Goodbye political correctness, hello populist correctness. Edited by Happy Hornet, Feb 21 2017, 08:25 AM.
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| Deleted User | Feb 21 2017, 08:27 AM Post #1697 |
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So you agree that Sweden has been ruined by immigration and far left policies. So overall Trump is right in what he said, he just made a small slip in his wording. |
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| C-too | Feb 21 2017, 08:27 AM Post #1698 |
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Absolutely. I never said he never points out some realities, same as the other Magic Wand Brigade dreamer Corbyn. Problem is naivety rules as exposed by the photo you posted. |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 21 2017, 08:40 AM Post #1699 |
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No, I don't agree that Sweden has been ruined and even if I did I don't believe it was ruined in one day i.e. last Friday. |
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| RoofGardener | Feb 21 2017, 08:46 AM Post #1700 |
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The thing about Trumps pronouncements is that there is often a germ of truth in them. Nothing happened in Sweden on Friday, but there ARE massive social problems with immigrants (mostly from Muslim countries), to the extent that the police regard around 50 areas as virtual "no go" areas for the police (though they don't use that term), and resignations from the Police Force are at an all time high. There was no "Bowling Green" massacre (Bowling Green being a town in Kentucky). However, two Iraqi immigrants WHERE arrested there on terrorism charges. (they are currently serving life sentences). Listening to Trump is like looking at an impressionist painting. It makes no sense if you zoom in to inspect individual sections in detail, but it looks OK if you stand back and take it in whole. Having said that, sometimes his pronouncements are more Cubist or Surreal than Impressionistic ! (and make heavy use of orange paint). |
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| Deleted User | Feb 21 2017, 08:48 AM Post #1701 |
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So you believe that Trump thinks Sweden was ruined in one day, last Friday? |
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| C-too | Feb 21 2017, 08:51 AM Post #1702 |
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Though I'm not sure of the implications from the "orange paint" comment. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 21 2017, 08:52 AM Post #1703 |
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FIFTY no go areas in Sweden!! Ruined. |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 21 2017, 08:56 AM Post #1704 |
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He said "you look what happened last night in Sweden". So you tell me what he meant. |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 21 2017, 08:58 AM Post #1705 |
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A fabrication based on one journalists comments I believe. And even if they did exist, I don't think they sprung up overnight. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 21 2017, 09:00 AM Post #1706 |
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I'm not keen on him either you know.
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| Deleted User | Feb 21 2017, 09:10 AM Post #1707 |
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So you think that someone believes that fifty no go areas sprung up overnight in Sweden? |
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| RoofGardener | Feb 21 2017, 09:37 AM Post #1708 |
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I was under the impression that Donald Trump was referring to a Fox News broadcast, which was discussing a film by Ami Horowitz about the correlation between immigration and crime in Sweden. (and showing clips from it). That being the case, perhaps there should be a petition to the various US broadcast companies begging that NOBODY transmits "War of the Worlds" during the Trump presidency. Gawd ALONE knows what might happen. |
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| Deleted User | Feb 21 2017, 09:37 AM Post #1709 |
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I'm being stupidly pedantic like a lot of other people. |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 21 2017, 09:43 AM Post #1710 |
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Again, it was Trump that said "you look at what's happening last night in Sweden". So you tell me what he meant. |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 21 2017, 09:45 AM Post #1711 |
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Actually that could work in the world's favour, perhaps he could be persuaded to launch America's entire nuclear arsenal at Mars, thus removing the threat of Trump bringing about nuclear armageddon 😂 |
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| RoofGardener | Feb 21 2017, 09:45 AM Post #1712 |
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Do you mean that you are being stupid AND pedantic, independently of one another, or that you regard pendantry as being an inherently stupid position ?
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 21 2017, 09:51 AM Post #1713 |
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Very good 😂 |
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| RoofGardener | Feb 21 2017, 09:56 AM Post #1714 |
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Sadly HH, I fear that Trumps lack of attention to details could merely result in a mass nuclear attack against a confectionery company based near Slough.
Edited by RoofGardener, Feb 21 2017, 09:57 AM.
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 21 2017, 10:00 AM Post #1715 |
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A decisive blow struck against the obesity crisis. Just the kind of decisive action he is famed for. |
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| Ewill | Feb 21 2017, 12:32 PM Post #1716 |
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Maybe he had a premonition? A Swedish man identified as Joakim Robin Berggren has reportedly been arrested and Spain's counter-terror unit has launched an investigation into the incident. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4244966/Truck-driver-shot-dead-speeds-Barcelona.html |
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| Steve K | Feb 21 2017, 12:58 PM Post #1717 |
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You do know that Barcelona is in Spain don't you? |
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| krugerman | Feb 21 2017, 01:37 PM Post #1718 |
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It would seem that U S authorities are now profiling people based purely upon their faith and / or racial background. A Welsh Muslim teacher on a school trip with other teachers and pupils was targeted by security before boarding a plane from Iceland to New York, and then escorted off the plane and told that he could not travel, the man, a maths teacher is British and does not hold dual nationality. This is what Boris Johnson said in Parliament a few weeks ago >>> "We have received assurances from the US embassy that the executive order will make no difference to any British passport holder, irrespective of their country of birth or whether they hold another passport.” Clearly either Boris is not been honest, or the Americans are not been honest In Juhel Miah's own words -- “We got to the airport, and as soon as we got to check in, the lady behind the desk read my passport and then straight away said you’ve been selected for a random security check. “She took me to the room, made me stand on a stool, take my shoes off, jacket off, checked under my foot, got a swab to brush over my hand and bag, my clothing and school hoodie. They gave me the all clear and then I went. The search was about five minutes. There were five or six people in the room, two searched me.” He was taken to a hotel. “I was waiting for two hours for a room. It was horrendous. There were holes in the sheets, a dirty bag under the bed, the light wasn’t working and only the lamp was working. “My phone battery was dying so I went to my suitcase, and that’s when I realised the padlock was missing. It had gone. I was so paranoid, I was scared, I didn’t sleep or eat for two days.” This mans case has been taken up by several politicians, the Welsh government and the education authority for which he works for, so far the US authorities have not come up with any answers or reasons why this incident took place. The other day the football player Dwight York was refused entry to the United States because he once played in a charity football match in Iran. This whole thing is sinister, and is reminiscent of the German authorities targeting Jews in the 1930s, who the F would want any kind of "special relationship" with a nation that carries out such blatant discrimination. NOT ME |
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| Happy Hornet | Feb 21 2017, 01:47 PM Post #1719 |
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No its not, that's fake news spread by the liberal media! |
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| Steve K | Feb 21 2017, 01:54 PM Post #1720 |
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Appalling And will the USA compensate those affected by incorrect decisions? No |
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