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Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM (1,572 Views)
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Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election.

No influence on the outcome because he says so !jk! IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.
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Let me tell you I have been to India a few times and found the Hindus to be very nice.

Apart from the guy who poisoned the dog... oh and they are rubbish with electricity, I have worked for Jews and had no problem apart from them moaning about me working on their holidays despite me repeatedly informing them that as I am not Jewish their holidays mean nothing to me
and parking in their parking bays, they get rly grumpy over that.

I have black people and polish people in my family.

Islam is the problem.
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Feb 21 2017, 08:48 AM
So you believe that Trump thinks Sweden was ruined in one day, last Friday?
I give it about a month and the Swedes will be able to get their own back with comments about no go areas and a ruined nation.

It'll be some right wing nut job armed with legal automatic weapons gunning down kids, students or perhaps even women at abortion clinic this time?

And there wont be a Muslim in sight! :)
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Feb 21 2017, 08:48 AM
So you believe that Trump thinks Sweden was ruined in one day, last Friday?
I give it about a month and the Swedes will be able to get their own back with comments about no go areas and a ruined nation.

It'll be some right wing nut job armed with legal automatic weapons gunning down kids, students or perhaps even women at abortion clinic this time?

And there wont be a Muslim in sight! :)
If that happens we all already know how happy it would make you cucky.
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Feb 21 2017, 10:25 PM
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Feb 21 2017, 09:12 PM
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Feb 21 2017, 08:48 AM
So you believe that Trump thinks Sweden was ruined in one day, last Friday?
I give it about a month and the Swedes will be able to get their own back with comments about no go areas and a ruined nation.

It'll be some right wing nut job armed with legal automatic weapons gunning down kids, students or perhaps even women at abortion clinic this time?

And there wont be a Muslim in sight! :)
If that happens we all already know how happy it would make you cucky.
I suspect like a lot of Americans you are a bit scared and gullible? I was making a semi serious point that obviosly you failed to pick up on, it's a matter of record that you are far more likely to die at the hands of a fellow American armed with a gun.

Now in the fucked up World that the right live in over there it's clearly far, far worse to be killed my a Muslim than to be killed by a fellow American, 20,000+ gun deaths a year compared to how many killed by muzzies? This is how propaganda works it preys on insecurities and draws attention away from more awkward problems that don't have the folksy fixes or simplistic platitudes you can use on Islam.

Well done for doing a very good impression of an American! :)
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Like this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9cL3OcjwM0
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Feb 21 2017, 10:44 PM
So you've got no answers then?

Facts, what a pain in the arse eh?
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Feb 21 2017, 01:54 PM
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Feb 21 2017, 01:37 PM
It would seem that U S authorities are now profiling people based purely upon their faith and / or racial background.

A Welsh Muslim teacher on a school trip with other teachers and pupils was targeted by security before boarding a plane from Iceland to New York, and then escorted off the plane and told that he could not travel, the man, a maths teacher is British and does not hold dual nationality. . . .
Appalling

And will the USA compensate those affected by incorrect decisions? No

Do we know what they know? If we don't know, then your not in a position to judge the actions. They may not be a consequence of Trumps actions and he may have been prevented from entry if Clinton had been elected.
Are school teachers resistant to being radicalised , or propagandising their faith?
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Feb 21 2017, 03:19 PM
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Feb 21 2017, 02:49 PM
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Feb 21 2017, 02:01 PM

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Oh please deal with reality

Your hero Trump said on Saturday " . .you look at what's happening last night in Sweden . ."

Now either he is deranged (very possible) or dishonest or both but the effect of that FALSE statement is to say there were very bad things occurring right now in addition to the already reported and misreported earlier events in Sweden that his audience was already aware of.

A sane honest grown up would have apologised for his gross error but was does your hero do?

a) lie by saying it was all true because it was on Fox News

b) lie by saying the other media were talking about the earlier stories not being true

You really should look at his daily twattering https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump every day it self shows him up for what he is: an evil deranged self obsessed slimeball. But hey he's your hero isn't he.


I am afraid your wrong there,as usual. I don't do heroes.
yes of course and you can rest assured that everybody who's never read your posts would believe that.

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But if someone needs a reality check may I suggest you look closer to home, and amongst your fan club.

Talking of heroes,I don't follow anyone on twitter and just for the record never been on it,never seen it, and wouldn't know what to do with it. GET IT ?

BTW. was hoping you would respond to my earlier post,when you asked me to "Prove muslims were trying to kill me."

But I can only guess my comeback on Mosul,Raqqa,Somalia,Syria,Libya,Sudan etc blew you away as I usually do :P

I won't be holding my breath,but I expect a full page retraction and a couple of paragraphs of an apology in there.Also if the tears are not masking the screen maybe you could throw in a 1000 lines of

"I SHOULD NOT WRITE SILLY,STUPID,LEFT WING DIATRIBE TO XOSG AGAIN.ALSO IN FUTURE I PROMISE TO THINK BEFORE I PRINT."

Now, wipe those tears from your eyes,blow your nose,sit up straight and grow a pair.

Would be appreciated.Thanking you in advance,Yours Truly THE MIGHTY ONE :facepalm: :P


PS. Anymore lefties want to have a go,feel free. !jk!

Well turns out I'm selective as to what bilge I reply to. And this ain't your bilge's lucky night.
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Feb 21 2017, 08:48 AM
So you believe that Trump thinks Sweden was ruined in one day, last Friday?
I give it about a month and the Swedes will be able to get their own back with comments about no go areas and a ruined nation.

It'll be some right wing nut job armed with legal automatic weapons gunning down kids, students or perhaps even women at abortion clinic this time?

And there wont be a Muslim in sight! :)
Then stay of the fookin streets and stop rioting.Told you once the right start this lot won't know whats hit them
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Feb 21 2017, 10:44 PM
So you've got no answers then?

Facts, what a pain in the arse eh?
Only problem is your FACTS are only FACTS to you in your little land of lillput and rainbows
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Feb 21 2017, 10:44 PM
Oh look a Pete Santili video. Maybe you should look up why he spent so much of last year in jail.
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Feb 21 2017, 11:12 PM
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Feb 21 2017, 03:19 PM
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Feb 21 2017, 02:49 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep" . .you look at what's happening last night in Sweden . ."

Now either he is deranged (very possible) or dishonest or both but the effect of that FALSE statement is to say there were very bad things occurring right now in addition to the already reported and misreported earlier events in Sweden that his audience was already aware of.

A sane honest grown up would have apologised for his gross error but was does your hero do?

a) lie by saying it was all true because it was on Fox News

b) lie by saying the other media were talking about the earlier stories not being true

You really should look at his daily twattering https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump every day it self shows him up for what he is: an evil deranged self obsessed slimeball. But hey he's your hero isn't he.


I am afraid your wrong there,as usual. I don't do heroes.
yes of course and you can rest assured that everybody who's never read your posts would believe that.

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But if someone needs a reality check may I suggest you look closer to home, and amongst your fan club.

Talking of heroes,I don't follow anyone on twitter and just for the record never been on it,never seen it, and wouldn't know what to do with it. GET IT ?

BTW. was hoping you would respond to my earlier post,when you asked me to "Prove muslims were trying to kill me."

But I can only guess my comeback on Mosul,Raqqa,Somalia,Syria,Libya,Sudan etc blew you away as I usually do :P

I won't be holding my breath,but I expect a full page retraction and a couple of paragraphs of an apology in there.Also if the tears are not masking the screen maybe you could throw in a 1000 lines of

"I SHOULD NOT WRITE SILLY,STUPID,LEFT WING DIATRIBE TO XOSG AGAIN.ALSO IN FUTURE I PROMISE TO THINK BEFORE I PRINT."

Now, wipe those tears from your eyes,blow your nose,sit up straight and grow a pair.

Would be appreciated.Thanking you in advance,Yours Truly THE MIGHTY ONE :facepalm: :P


PS. Anymore lefties want to have a go,feel free. !jk!

Well turns out I'm selective as to what bilge I reply to. And this ain't your bilge's lucky night.
Nice try,but I got you !clp!
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Feb 21 2017, 11:19 PM
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Feb 21 2017, 03:19 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep" . .you look at what's happening last night in Sweden . ."

Now either he is deranged (very possible) or dishonest or both but the effect of that FALSE statement is to say there were very bad things occurring right now in addition to the already reported and misreported earlier events in Sweden that his audience was already aware of.

A sane honest grown up would have apologised for his gross error but was does your hero do?

a) lie by saying it was all true because it was on Fox News

b) lie by saying the other media were talking about the earlier stories not being true

You really should look at his daily twattering https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
yes of course and you can rest assured that everybody who's never read your posts would believe that.

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But if someone needs a reality check may I suggest you look closer to home, and amongst your fan club.

Talking of heroes,I don't follow anyone on twitter and just for the record never been on it,never seen it, and wouldn't know what to do with it. GET IT ?

BTW. was hoping you would respond to my earlier post,when you asked me to "Prove muslims were trying to kill me."

But I can only guess my comeback on Mosul,Raqqa,Somalia,Syria,Libya,Sudan etc blew you away as I usually do :P

I won't be holding my breath,but I expect a full page retraction and a couple of paragraphs of an apology in there.Also if the tears are not masking the screen maybe you could throw in a 1000 lines of

"I SHOULD NOT WRITE SILLY,STUPID,LEFT WING DIATRIBE TO XOSG AGAIN.ALSO IN FUTURE I PROMISE TO THINK BEFORE I PRINT."

Now, wipe those tears from your eyes,blow your nose,sit up straight and grow a pair.

Would be appreciated.Thanking you in advance,Yours Truly THE MIGHTY ONE :facepalm: :P


PS. Anymore lefties want to have a go,feel free. !jk!

Well turns out I'm selective as to what bilge I reply to. And this ain't your bilge's lucky night.
Nice try,but I got you !clp!
In your dreams. It was bilge, you know it
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Feb 21 2017, 11:18 PM
Maybe you should look up why he spent so much of last year in jail.
Obvioulsy rehabilitation is not a strong suit in the US prison system! ;D
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So you've got no answers then?

Facts, what a pain in the arse eh?
Only problem is your FACTS are only FACTS to you in your little land of lillput and rainbows
You'll like this one, in 2016 according to figures from the US Justice Department there were 372 mass shootings in the US, mass shooting means four or more deaths.

I'd go and hide in a Mosque as no one was killed in one last year. ;-)
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Feb 21 2017, 08:27 PM

There are some very nasty Muslims in the world, some are Islamic extremists, others are simply criminal minded or just nasty people.

But you know what ?, there are also nasty Hindus, nasty Jews, nasty Christians, ever heard of the old saying "good and bad in all walks of life", but of course those people who are a bit thick and of low intelligence will attempt to tell us that black people are more likely to carry a knife because they are black, or that a Muslim is more likely to be a nasty person because they are a Muslim.

Fiction I know, but it does make a similar point:-

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Feb 21 2017, 04:28 PM
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I don't expect the jobless and poor to foot my moral ideals either, so please stop trying to paint me as some pantomime villain.

And no I'm going to let you off the hook. If you expect people who support mass immigration to personally take responsibility for any resultant problems then you have to do the same for the problems resulting from any and all policies you support or be damned as a hypocrite.
The only hypocrites are you lefties.Who expect the poor,jobless to make you feel good at night,and get a good nights sleep.

From your post---"The only hypocrites are you lefties.Who expect the poor,jobless to make you feel good at night,and get a good nights sleep."---

An asinine remark no matter who made it.
The Centre-Left of politics produced the lowest unemployment for the 25 years that followed the right-wing butchering of industry in the early 1980s, which in turn put over two million people out of work, and kept unemployment high, while many/most of those thrown out of work entered the low paid market. In the light of that reality, right-wingers are in no position to condemn any other government in the UK since 1945.

But then many righties are self obsessed and are unable to see the full picture, which is why so many of them are so, Trump like, arrogant.
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Except, of course, that the "Centre Left" was only able to accomplish that because the Right had already made all the tough decisions, and had re-balanced the economy for them. :)

Now, can we return to Donald Trump ?
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Except, of course, that the "Centre Left" was only able to accomplish that because the Right had already made all the tough decisions, and had re-balanced the economy for them. :)

Now, can we return to Donald Trump ?
Do we have to? A couple of days respite from his weird, rambling "news" conferences has given me some hope that the end might not be nigh, after all.
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So I was reading the thread all the way through and I ended up wondering what it was that drove someone to continuously post offensively with the main intention being to wind other people up. I googled it and came up with something called an ODD disorder. So that explains it.

I am sure CToo may be able to best advise us how to deal with such behaviour. In the meantime if a poster finds himself unable to post without being deliberately rude and offensive I guess the best approach would be to ignore said poster. Isn’t this referred to as not feeding the troll?
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Except, of course, that the "Centre Left" was only able to accomplish that because the Right had already made all the tough decisions, and had re-balanced the economy for them. :)

Now, can we return to Donald Trump ?
Do we have to? A couple of days respite from his weird, rambling "news" conferences has given me some hope that the end might not be nigh, after all.
He's probably sat around waiting for Jack Bauer to return his calls 😂
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Do we have to? A couple of days respite from his weird, rambling "news" conferences has given me some hope that the end might not be nigh, after all.
I am still trying to find out what happened in Sweden.
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Well, there was a major criminal rampage a couple of days ago in Stockholm, with cars burnt and the police attacked ?
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With regards to the specific topic "Donald Trump"

It would appear that this ridiculous state visit will go ahead, probably around June, and our poor old Queen will have to endure this sickening man and his plastic Barbie wife ( whats her name ?? "Malaria" or something.

So what will be the headline news at the time ?, will it be a wonderful celebration of a nice ceremonial visit by the American president, or will it be protests on a scale which we have probably not seen before. ?

Certainly the organisers are very busy, Facebook groups, Twitter and other social media, all police leave will be cancelled.

On Twitter Ronnie Joice added: “When Trump comes to the UK, we need to organise the largest protest march ever staged. Bring London to a total standstill.” (The Independent).

All we need now is an opposing march, which though would be much smaller, never the less it would be a box of gunpowder in a room with sparks flying, and as it is the strength of feeling is so bitter against Trump that anything could happen.

The whole thing is and was a total shambles, and Theressa May has made a colossal mistake
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Trump is now the court jester right? In terms of foreign policy those he has appointed have been saying and doing things that are at odds with Trumps stated policies.

Perhaps the plan is just too wheel him out to Twitter his followers and spout bigotry for his adoring fan club whilst the real work gets done behind the scenes?
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Well, there was a major criminal rampage a couple of days ago in Stockholm, with cars burnt and the police attacked ?
That happened well after Trump's comments.
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Except, of course, that the "Centre Left" was only able to accomplish that because the Right had already made all the tough decisions, and had re-balanced the economy for them. :)

Now, can we return to Donald Trump ?
Do we have to? A couple of days respite from his weird, rambling "news" conferences has given me some hope that the end might not be nigh, after all.
Is it any coincidence that it is those to the left of politics who are doing all the aggression, abusing and insulting against Trump and Brexit. Its not objective remarking and discussing but always accompanied by verbal abuse and insult. Is it a matter of idealism alone, or is there some personal issues that drives them?
What is it that they are personally really afraid of?
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From todays Mail
Anti-immigrant Sweden Democrats are now third biggest party in Sweden
From polling four per cent in 2008, they now have 20 per cent support
has to be reasons why there is a swing to the right wing of politics, so it might be a good idea for our left leaning friends to realise it is happening and address the reasons why it is happening. Just shouting abuse at your opponents is obviously just a release of fear that it is happening. A simple questions to ask Yah boos alone is not going to cut the mustard is it your selves is 'is it true' is it happening, what are the reasons for it, and what can be done about it. I of course blame you for the problems, but for you to accept it is anathema to you. It has to be someone elses fault and responsibility.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3349890/Sweden-Home-IKEA-meatballs-ABBA-racism-Swedish-right-wing-went-joke-big-political-player-just-seven-years.html#ixzz4ZPcXQAPS
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Well, there was a major criminal rampage a couple of days ago in Stockholm, with cars burnt and the police attacked ?
That happened well after Trump's comments.
Only chronologically speaking ;D
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Do we have to? A couple of days respite from his weird, rambling "news" conferences has given me some hope that the end might not be nigh, after all.
I am still trying to find out what happened in Sweden.

Simple.

Just google 'which european country has the most sex crimes' most hits come up with Sweden and Denmark.
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From todays Mail
Anti-immigrant Sweden Democrats are now third biggest party in Sweden
From polling four per cent in 2008, they now have 20 per cent support
has to be reasons why there is a swing to the right wing of politics, so it might be a good idea for our left leaning friends to realise it is happening and address the reasons why it is happening. Just shouting abuse at your opponents is obviously just a release of fear that it is happening. A simple questions to ask Yah boos alone is not going to cut the mustard is it your selves is 'is it true' is it happening, what are the reasons for it, and what can be done about it. I of course blame you for the problems, but for you to accept it is anathema to you. It has to be someone elses fault and responsibility.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3349890/Sweden-Home-IKEA-meatballs-ABBA-racism-Swedish-right-wing-went-joke-big-political-player-just-seven-years.html#ixzz4ZPcXQAPS
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There has to be reasons why there is a swing to the right wing of politics, so it might be a good idea for our left leaning friends to realise it is happening and address the reasons why it is happening.
Just shouting abuse at your opponents is obviously just a release of fear that it is happening.Yah boos alone are not going to cut the mustard is it?
A simple questions to ask your selves is 'is it true' is it happening, what are the reasons for it, and what can be done about it. I of course blame you for the problems, but for you to accept it is anathema to you. It has to be someone else's fault and responsibility but it really is yours to address. I think that too many use the left wing politics as a protective shield. .
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Feb 22 2017, 11:19 AM
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Feb 22 2017, 09:45 AM
Except, of course, that the "Centre Left" was only able to accomplish that because the Right had already made all the tough decisions, and had re-balanced the economy for them. :)

Now, can we return to Donald Trump ?
Do we have to? A couple of days respite from his weird, rambling "news" conferences has given me some hope that the end might not be nigh, after all.
Is it any coincidence that it is those to the left of politics who are doing all the aggression, abusing and insulting against Trump and Brexit. Its not objective remarking and discussing but always accompanied by verbal abuse and insult. Is it a matter of idealism alone, or is there some personal issues that drives them?
What is it that they are personally really afraid of?
Yes, if only the lefties here could debate with the objectivity, civility and fairness of right wing posters like xosg eh?

Crying shame.
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There has to be reasons why there is a swing to the right wing of politics, so it might be a good idea for our left leaning friends to realise it is happening and address the reasons why it is happening.
Just shouting abuse at your opponents is obviously just a release of fear that it is happening.Yah boos alone are not going to cut the mustard is it?
A simple questions to ask your selves is 'is it true' is it happening, what are the reasons for it, and what can be done about it. I of course blame you for the problems, but for you to accept it is anathema to you. It has to be someone else's fault and responsibility but it really is yours to address. I think that too many use the left wing politics as a protective shield. .
The answer to your post is very simple, those with right wing tendencies scare vary easily!

Far from being tough and self reliant they see threats everywhere and just react with base instincts such as run, blame, hate and of course fear of the to them, unknown. in fact right wing people are very easily led by these negative traits.

Most people just grow out of it to some extent, but some never do!
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Oh look a Pete Santili video. Maybe you should look up why he spent so much of last year in jail.
Pete Santilli is that the American bloke speaking in the clip?
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Except, of course, that the "Centre Left" was only able to accomplish that because the Right had already made all the tough decisions, and had re-balanced the economy for them. :)

Now, can we return to Donald Trump ?
Do we have to? A couple of days respite from his weird, rambling "news" conferences has given me some hope that the end might not be nigh, after all.
Is it any coincidence that it is those to the left of politics who are doing all the aggression, abusing and insulting against Trump and Brexit. Its not objective remarking and discussing but always accompanied by verbal abuse and insult. Is it a matter of idealism alone, or is there some personal issues that drives them?
What is it that they are personally really afraid of?
Sorry but thats utter male bovine waste of the highest degree

The objections to Trump are not based upon "idealism" or left wing dogma, the objections are soundly based on a principle that no person should be unfairly treated or subjected to discrimination due to their nationality, ethnic origin, colour, faith, sexuality, gender or ability / disability.

These are HUMAN PRINCIPLES and not political principles, but if you say that these principles are left wing, then I will be most happy to be left wing.

We have a situation where this despicable leader is ignoring the law of his own country, innocent people are been picked on, detained and mistreated simply because they could be Muslims, or are Muslims, even British born people who are holders of only their British passport.

In the United States, people of migrant background, Muslims and others are now frightened, living in fear, and people like you think this is ok, or acceptable - well it isent.

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Is it any coincidence that it is those to the left of politics who are doing all the aggression, abusing and insulting against Trump and Brexit. Its not objective remarking and discussing but always accompanied by verbal abuse and insult. Is it a matter of idealism alone, or is there some personal issues that drives them?
What is it that they are personally really afraid of?
Sorry but thats utter male bovine waste of the highest degree

The objections to Trump are not based upon "idealism" or left wing dogma, the objections are soundly based on a principle that no person should be unfairly treated or subjected to discrimination due to their nationality, ethnic origin, colour, faith, sexuality, gender or ability / disability.

These are HUMAN PRINCIPLES and not political principles, but if you say that these principles are left wing, then I will be most happy to be left wing.

We have a situation where this despicable leader is ignoring the law of his own country, innocent people are been picked on, detained and mistreated simply because they could be Muslims, or are Muslims, even British born people who are holders of only their British passport.

In the United States, people of migrant background, Muslims and others are now frightened, living in fear, and people like you think this is ok, or acceptable - well it isent.

Fear of what? What about yourself ? You seem to be agreeing with me that those on the left tend to be using politics as a shield against misfortune. You must also be agreeing that the right ids on the march , for which there must be reasons. If there were no conflicts of interests we would all be on the centre ground, looking after each others interests not just our own, be that race colour religious orientation or sexual preference.
In my view the idealistic left with their imposition of cultures and ways, on a resisting public really are the cause.
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Is it any coincidence that it is those to the left of politics who are doing all the aggression, abusing and insulting against Trump and Brexit. Its not objective remarking and discussing but always accompanied by verbal abuse and insult. Is it a matter of idealism alone, or is there some personal issues that drives them?
What is it that they are personally really afraid of?
Sorry but thats utter male bovine waste of the highest degree

The objections to Trump are not based upon "idealism" or left wing dogma, the objections are soundly based on a principle that no person should be unfairly treated or subjected to discrimination due to their nationality, ethnic origin, colour, faith, sexuality, gender or ability / disability.

These are HUMAN PRINCIPLES and not political principles, but if you say that these principles are left wing, then I will be most happy to be left wing.

We have a situation where this despicable leader is ignoring the law of his own country, innocent people are been picked on, detained and mistreated simply because they could be Muslims, or are Muslims, even British born people who are holders of only their British passport.

In the United States, people of migrant background, Muslims and others are now frightened, living in fear, and people like you think this is ok, or acceptable - well it isent.

Fear of what? What about yourself ? You seem to be agreeing with me that those on the left tend to be using politics as a shield against misfortune. You must also be agreeing that the right ids on the march , for which there must be reasons. If there were no conflicts of interests we would all be on the centre ground, looking after each others interests not just our own, be that race colour religious orientation or sexual preference.
In my view the idealistic left with their imposition of cultures and ways, on a resisting public really are the cause.
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Sorry but thats utter male bovine waste of the highest degree

The objections to Trump are not based upon "idealism" or left wing dogma, the objections are soundly based on a principle that no person should be unfairly treated or subjected to discrimination due to their nationality, ethnic origin, colour, faith, sexuality, gender or ability / disability.

These are HUMAN PRINCIPLES and not political principles, but if you say that these principles are left wing, then I will be most happy to be left wing.

We have a situation where this despicable leader is ignoring the law of his own country, innocent people are been picked on, detained and mistreated simply because they could be Muslims, or are Muslims, even British born people who are holders of only their British passport.

In the United States, people of migrant background, Muslims and others are now frightened, living in fear, and people like you think this is ok, or acceptable - well it isent.

Fear of what? What about yourself ? You seem to be agreeing with me that those on the left tend to be using politics as a shield against misfortune. You must also be agreeing that the right ids on the march , for which there must be reasons. If there were no conflicts of interests we would all be on the centre ground, looking after each others interests not just our own, be that race colour religious orientation or sexual preference.
In my view the idealistic left with their imposition of cultures and ways, on a resisting public really are the cause.
Politics goes in cycles, always has done. The right will get complacent just like the left have done and in 5-10 years you'll be scratching your heads wondering why you are suddenly out of favour with the electorate.
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There has to be reasons why there is a swing to the right wing of politics, so it might be a good idea for our left leaning friends to realise it is happening and address the reasons why it is happening.
Just shouting abuse at your opponents is obviously just a release of fear that it is happening.Yah boos alone are not going to cut the mustard is it?
A simple questions to ask your selves is 'is it true' is it happening, what are the reasons for it, and what can be done about it. I of course blame you for the problems, but for you to accept it is anathema to you. It has to be someone else's fault and responsibility but it really is yours to address. I think that too many use the left wing politics as a protective shield. .
The answer to your post is very simple, those with right wing tendencies scare vary easily!

Far from being tough and self reliant they see threats everywhere and just react with base instincts such as run, blame, hate and of course fear of the to them, unknown. in fact right wing people are very easily led by these negative traits.

Most people just grow out of it to some extent, but some never do!
!clp!

Quite the parties over and they are looking for someone to blame, and it can't be themselves and who they voted for so it has to be someone else.

That isn't to say mistakes haven't been made but to be happy that society looks like it's heading towards being more selfish and dog eat dog is hardly something rational people would celebrate. It's like Brexit, some people should be careful what they wish for.
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Except, of course, that the "Centre Left" was only able to accomplish that because the Right had already made all the tough decisions, and had re-balanced the economy for them. :)

Now, can we return to Donald Trump ?
Oh! really ?

Why was the debt to GDP at 43% in 1997 ?
Tory economics were up and down depending upon what the chancellor thought needed for the oncoming election. Yo-yo economics. (Witness 1990 election as well).
The Tories practised 'boom and bust' economics. They showed no aptitude for stabilising the economy.
What state was the NHS in in 1997 ?
What was the condition of most state schools in terms of maintenance, need for refurbishment along with the serious need to be reequipped ?

Why were many experienced teachers leaving the profession ?
Why was unemployment still higher in 1997 than when the Tories came to office in 1979 ?
What about the "broken society" inherited by NL ?
Why was the UK still in debt to America from WWII ?

Perhaps the same sort of deceptive Trumpism is what kept the Tories in office for 18 years, and misled people like yourself on the state of the country in 1997 ?
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