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Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM (1,569 Views)
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Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election.

No influence on the outcome because he says so !jk! IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.
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Feb 24 2017, 11:26 PM
The 'truth' varies from person to person. Are you sure you get the truth or is what you hear and believe what you really want to believe. From any event we can select what suits us. We are mostly spectators to events so I cant get unduly worked up about things I have no control over. I really cannot understand why so many on the left do.
Are you in favour of Trumps team banning journalists from news outlets that report everything Trump says, good and bad?

What difference would it make if any of us were ?

Either this will rebound on him or it won't, but why should we care ?
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Because it makes us no better than him?
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I too have no interest in reading these posts. Mostly I've paged down to select the few here I consider objective enough to make some sense of proportion ....... it's a very short list.


Yes, I'd agree here.The usual suspects all lining up to chuck mud and make negative and exaggerated posts, an for what exatly ? What possibe influence do they think they (or any of us) have on the topic ?

And why exactly is this topic in the UK section when clearly it belongs in the international one America ?
Edited by The Buccaneer, Feb 25 2017, 11:40 PM.
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Feb 25 2017, 08:46 AM
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Feb 25 2017, 12:58 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3349890/Sweden-Home-IKEA-meatballs-ABBA-racism-Swedish-right-wing-went-joke-big-political-player-just-seven-years.html#ixzz4ZPcXQAPS"Are you in favour of Trumps team banning journalists from news outlets that report everything Trump says, good and bad, Herr Goebbels?"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Qu_J_6WIM
He's going after the free press, now and he has surrounded himself with a cabinet of crony capitalists, all the while scapegoating Muslims for their trying to escape the American-induced horrors of their homelands and Mexicans because the Asian automation has taken Rust Belt jobs away. He is there because he wove a fabric of lies. The sooner he is gone, the better our world will be.

BTW, check the latest insane rant.Trump is now AGAINST Brexit and FOR the EU.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-european-union-eu-us-president-totally-in-favour-wonderful-steve-bannon-mike-pence-a7596731.html

Poor Britain. Love is so fleeting. He's been seduced by German pussy.
I think it became obvious even before the US election that Trump was a smart-mouther who said whatever popped into his head as a good answer at any particular moment. My impression is that he is a natural liar and a deliberate deceiver of people i.e. a typical extremist.
The Queen will sure enjoy receiving him.
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Feb 25 2017, 11:38 PM
. . And why exactly is this topic in the UK section when clearly it belongs in the international one America ?
Shrugs: maybe the OP knows

Will move
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Jan 7 2017, 11:27 AM

Sorry, I have not been given the same evidence as Trump. But it is all over the TV news.
So was the scandal of Iraqi soldiers barging their way into Kuwaiti hospitals, taking away the incubators and leaving Kuwaiti babies to die on the floor as they were just not worth a bullet
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. . And why exactly is this topic in the UK section when clearly it belongs in the international one America ?
Shrugs: maybe the OP knows

Will move
I think it came about because triumphalist Brexiters kept triumphantly confusing Brexit with Trump's election.

But yes it should have been under America in the first place.
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I see Trump is refusing to go to the White House correspondents dinner.

The man is living proof that money can't buy class.
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I see Trump is refusing to go to the White House correspondents dinner.

The man is living proof that money can't buy class.
He probably can't face them. Besides, every time the opens his mouth, another shred of his credibility tears off. Give him a couple of glasses of wine, and ....
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I see Trump is refusing to go to the White House correspondents dinner.

The man is living proof that money can't buy class.
He probably can't face them. Besides, every time the opens his mouth, another shred of his credibility tears off. Give him a couple of glasses of wine, and ....
There's a thought, imagine what he would be like drunk.
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I see Trump is refusing to go to the White House correspondents dinner.

The man is living proof that money can't buy class.
He can get all the best food he wants in Trump Tower, without the hassle and overt antagonism.
Did they invite the President, or the man to slate?
There is a questions here that needs answering, that being do journalists wield too much power, can they influence outcomes of political decisions with their skill in language or in presenting their owners political POV or in the way they slant a story or are selective in the wording?
Are they squeaky clean and totally impartial, or do they set out to create or embellish stories just to make sales or even to bring down political opponents?.
We can universally condemn Trumps decision to disengage from some sections in the media, but in the longer run perhaps it will introduce some honesty and more objective reporting into journalism as a whole, and that can lead to more openness by the politicians.
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I see Trump is refusing to go to the White House correspondents dinner.

The man is living proof that money can't buy class.
He can get all the best food he wants in Trump Tower, without the hassle and overt antagonism.
Did they invite the President, or the man to slate?
There is a questions here that needs answering, that being do journalists wield too much power, can they influence outcomes of political decisions with their skill in language or in presenting their owners political POV or in the way they slant a story or are selective in the wording?
Are they squeaky clean and totally impartial, or do they set out to create or embellish stories just to make sales or even to bring down political opponents?.
We can universally condemn Trumps decision to disengage from some sections in the media, but in the longer run perhaps it will introduce some honesty and more objective reporting into journalism as a whole, and that can lead to more openness by the politicians.
Well some sections of the media are biased against him, but then again some others are biased in his favour. I've never him complain about the latter have you?

If this was about bringing about more objective journalism, he would have been equally critical of the right wing media as he has been of the liberal media.

This is simply Trump hiding from the media because he can't handle criticism, which for me suggests he simply doesn't have the temperament for the job.
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I see Trump is refusing to go to the White House correspondents dinner.

The man is living proof that money can't buy class.
He can get all the best food he wants in Trump Tower, without the hassle and overt antagonism.
Did they invite the President, or the man to slate?
There is a questions here that needs answering, that being do journalists wield too much power, can they influence outcomes of political decisions with their skill in language or in presenting their owners political POV or in the way they slant a story or are selective in the wording?
Are they squeaky clean and totally impartial, or do they set out to create or embellish stories just to make sales or even to bring down political opponents?.
We can universally condemn Trumps decision to disengage from some sections in the media, but in the longer run perhaps it will introduce some honesty and more objective reporting into journalism as a whole, and that can lead to more openness by the politicians.
Almost every President over the last century has gone to ypthat banquet.

It's not about the food. ... try fear.
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Yet he has just moved to the pinnacle of anyones career in becoming POTUS (can you get any higher ) And you have the gaul to call him immature,GET REAL. It just adds to what was a really toxic election. What if the Russians hacked (not proven ) they only told what was the truth.Are you saying the people should not know the truth, or how corrupt she is ?
Can you provide proof of "how corrupt she is" ?
No but the Russians certainly can.You seem to be about the only one along with another handful of individuals who think she is not corrupt.Even half her supporters only voted for her because she stole it from Bernie Sanders.They did not want her,have you heard the saying the two most hated candidates ever,that didn't come from me.That is not me talking that is half the electorate from her support base.

PS. Being a man of the world: "Tell me, if the Russians where so influential how did Hilary win the popular vote ?" Just a thought.Blows your theory out the window,don't it !!
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I see Trump is refusing to go to the White House correspondents dinner.

The man is living proof that money can't buy class.
He can get all the best food he wants in Trump Tower, without the hassle and overt antagonism.
Did they invite the President, or the man to slate?
There is a questions here that needs answering, that being do journalists wield too much power, can they influence outcomes of political decisions with their skill in language or in presenting their owners political POV or in the way they slant a story or are selective in the wording?
Are they squeaky clean and totally impartial, or do they set out to create or embellish stories just to make sales or even to bring down political opponents?.
We can universally condemn Trumps decision to disengage from some sections in the media, but in the longer run perhaps it will introduce some honesty and more objective reporting into journalism as a whole, and that can lead to more openness by the politicians.
Almost every President over the last century has gone to ypthat banquet.

It's not about the food. ... try fear.
try fear

Try sending a message to them that he doesn't give a fook,ever thought about that ?

He has been bypassing them for the last 18 months and getting his message out with no bias to it,direct to the public via social media,why do you suppose he needs CNN ?

Their ratings have been dropping every year,the new media is social,lot more to reach and a lot more watching and reading.
Edited by xosg, Feb 26 2017, 04:44 PM.
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Can you provide proof of "how corrupt she is" ?
No but the Russians certainly can.You seem to be about the only one along with another handful of individuals who think she is not corrupt.Even half her supporters only voted for her because she stole it from Bernie Sanders.They did not want her,have you heard the saying the two most hated candidates ever,that didn't come from me.That is not me talking that is half the electorate from her support base.

PS. Being a man of the world: "Tell me, if the Russians where so influential how did Hilary win the popular vote ?" Just a thought.Blows your theory out the window,don't it !!
Oh do keep up

It was the FBI head's illegal action that influenced the popular vote by just enough

The Russians effect was to give Trump privileged campaign information that allowed him to target his minority support to win the college

Oh and she was found to not be corrupt
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Almost every President over the last century has gone to ypthat banquet.

It's not about the food. ... try fear.
try fear

Try sending a message to them that he doesn't give a fook,ever thought about that ?

He has been bypassing them for the last 18 months and getting his message out with no bias to it,direct to the public via social media,why do you suppose he needs CNN ?

Their ratings have been dropping every year,the new media is social,lot more to reach and a lot more watching and reading.
If he doesn't give a "fook", he has no business either running for or being the President of the United States.

Ever thought of that, tough guy?
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No but the Russians certainly can.You seem to be about the only one along with another handful of individuals who think she is not corrupt.Even half her supporters only voted for her because she stole it from Bernie Sanders.They did not want her,have you heard the saying the two most hated candidates ever,that didn't come from me.That is not me talking that is half the electorate from her support base.

PS. Being a man of the world: "Tell me, if the Russians where so influential how did Hilary win the popular vote ?" Just a thought.Blows your theory out the window,don't it !!
Oh do keep up

It was the FBI head's illegal action that influenced the popular vote by just enough

The Russians effect was to give Trump privileged campaign information that allowed him to target his minority support to win the college

Oh and she was found to not be corrupt
I think your the one who needs to keep up.

"The FBI heads illegal action " Get real.

So your saying the FBI coming out late in the campaign and saying there may be more charges against Hilary,won her the popular vote !jk!

How did it enable Trump to win the electoral college ?

Hey,Do you suppose they bribed all the electors in every state.WOW another bombshell,Pray do tell all us imbeciles !jk! :facepalm: :banghead:

Are you saying the mere fact she wasn't charged,means she was not guilty of corruption ? I suppose OJ was innocent to hey ? !jk!

Anyone doing what she done with that server would be in an orange jumpsuit by now.So she did break the law

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try fear

Try sending a message to them that he doesn't give a fook,ever thought about that ?

He has been bypassing them for the last 18 months and getting his message out with no bias to it,direct to the public via social media,why do you suppose he needs CNN ?

Their ratings have been dropping every year,the new media is social,lot more to reach and a lot more watching and reading.
If he doesn't give a "fook", he has no business either running for or being the President of the United States.

Ever thought of that, tough guy?
He is the president,because he won GET IT ?

To be a billionaire then become POTUS,I think it would be rather silly of you to go around calling him stupid,don't you ? Think about it.

BTW what are your achievements in life then ?

I would say he knows exactly what he is doing,would'nt you ?

You don't get to where he is,being stupid,do you ? :facepalm: :banghead:
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. . us imbeciles . . .
You said it

But maybe you didn't need the plural
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deeptry fear

Try sending a message to them that he doesn't give a fook,ever thought about that ?

He has been bypassing them for the last 18 months and getting his message out with no bias to it,direct to the public via social media,why do you suppose he needs CNN ?

Their ratings have been dropping every year,the new media is social,lot more to reach and a lot more watching and reading.
If he doesn't give a "fook", he has no business either running for or being the President of the United States.

Ever thought of that, tough guy?
He is the president,because he won GET IT ?

To be a billionaire then become POTUS,I think it would be rather silly of you to go around calling him stupid,don't you ? Think about it.

BTW what are your achievements in life then ?

I would say he knows exactly what he is doing,would'nt you ?

You don't get to where he is,being stupid,do you ? :facepalm: :banghead:
Yeah, it takes a real genius to inherit a fortune.
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Hmmm... am I the only one here to thing there is merit in restricting access to an informal press briefing and - far more importantly - the decline to attend the White House Press Pool dinner ?

To take the latter first.. does nobody but me think that this is a pretty corrupt tradition in the first place ?

And the former... America has freedom of the press. But that does NOT mean that the White House has to do their job FOR them. Or rather.. why do the press attend these briefings in the FIRST place ? Aren't they just a WH "propaganda" briefing ? (yeah... OK.. that's a slightly extreme description). How much REAL journalistic value does the WH press briefings actually HAVE ?

Remember when the Guardian boycotted the UK government press briefings, on the grounds that they where just propaganda ?
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Hmmm... am I the only one here to thing there is merit in restricting access to an informal press briefing and - far more importantly - the decline to attend the White House Press Pool dinner ?

To take the latter first.. does nobody but me think that this is a pretty corrupt tradition in the first place ?

And the former... America has freedom of the press. But that does NOT mean that the White House has to do their job FOR them. Or rather.. why do the press attend these briefings in the FIRST place ? Aren't they just a WH "propaganda" briefing ? (yeah... OK.. that's a slightly extreme description). How much REAL journalistic value does the WH press briefings actually HAVE ?

Remember when the Guardian boycotted the UK government press briefings, on the grounds that they where just propaganda ?
So the best way to combat press corruption and the use of propaganda is for the President to only allow friendly journalists to attend his press briefings?

Really?
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. . us imbeciles . . .
You said it

But maybe you didn't need the plural
I will asked you again.

How did the FBI head coming out late saying "there is more to look into regarding Clinton" win her the popular vote ?

How did the Russians hack the electoral college in every state ?

Only asking a simple question no need to get nasty ::)

BTW I won't report you for the ad hom "imbecile" I got a pair of balls,can take it.But I will be watching yours and everyone elses of your cabal in future and will have no problem hitting that report button, works both ways
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He is the president,because he won GET IT ?

To be a billionaire then become POTUS,I think it would be rather silly of you to go around calling him stupid,don't you ? Think about it.

BTW what are your achievements in life then ?

I would say he knows exactly what he is doing,would'nt you ?

You don't get to where he is,being stupid,do you ? :facepalm: :banghead:
Yeah, it takes a real genius to inherit a fortune.
Not really.

But it takes a real genius to turn it into billions and run for POTUS and WIN.

BTW. I will ask you the same question.What's your achievements in life ?
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I see Trump is refusing to go to the White House correspondents dinner.

The man is living proof that money can't buy class.
He can get all the best food he wants in Trump Tower, without the hassle and overt antagonism.
Did they invite the President, or the man to slate?
There is a questions here that needs answering, that being do journalists wield too much power, can they influence outcomes of political decisions with their skill in language or in presenting their owners political POV or in the way they slant a story or are selective in the wording?
Are they squeaky clean and totally impartial, or do they set out to create or embellish stories just to make sales or even to bring down political opponents?.
We can universally condemn Trumps decision to disengage from some sections in the media, but in the longer run perhaps it will introduce some honesty and more objective reporting into journalism as a whole, and that can lead to more openness by the politicians.
Almost every President over the last century has gone to ypthat banquet.

It's not about the food. ... try fear.


Trump has no relationship with the media. It's hostile ,nasty and relentless so why bother to attend a hostile meeting filled with your enemies ? Trump is the first president to bypass the press and use twitter to speak to the people. As I said ,he has no relationship with the press ...
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Try sending a message to them that he doesn't give a fook,ever thought about that ?

He has been bypassing them for the last 18 months and getting his message out with no bias to it,direct to the public via social media,why do you suppose he needs CNN ?

Their ratings have been dropping every year,the new media is social,lot more to reach and a lot more watching and reading.
If he doesn't give a "fook", he has no business either running for or being the President of the United States.

Ever thought of that, tough guy?
He is the president,because he won GET IT ?

To be a billionaire then become POTUS,I think it would be rather silly of you to go around calling him stupid,don't you ? Think about it.

BTW what are your achievements in life then ?

I would say he knows exactly what he is doing,would'nt you ?

You don't get to where he is,being stupid,do you ? :facepalm: :banghead:
Where did I call him stupid?

Evil, maybe but never stupid.

Nor did I ever mention Chicken Noodle News.

Hitler was elected fair and square, too

Get it, yet?

My achievements in life do not include conning people, stiffing contractors, scapegoating the weakest, selling out my country.

How about your's?
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. . us imbeciles . . .
You said it

But maybe you didn't need the plural
I got a pair of balls,can take it.

Here. Try this forum. They'll laugh your balls right out of the place in double time. It's open season, there.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net

Report away, tough guy.
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Hmmm... am I the only one here to thing there is merit in restricting access to an informal press briefing and - far more importantly - the decline to attend the White House Press Pool dinner ?

To take the latter first.. does nobody but me think that this is a pretty corrupt tradition in the first place ?

And the former... America has freedom of the press. But that does NOT mean that the White House has to do their job FOR them. Or rather.. why do the press attend these briefings in the FIRST place ? Aren't they just a WH "propaganda" briefing ? (yeah... OK.. that's a slightly extreme description). How much REAL journalistic value does the WH press briefings actually HAVE ?

Remember when the Guardian boycotted the UK government press briefings, on the grounds that they where just propaganda ?
So the best way to combat press corruption and the use of propaganda is for the President to only allow friendly journalists to attend his press briefings?

Really?
Well, at least it is honest ? If I was the BBC, or CNN, I'd simply refuse to attend in the first place.

THINK about it; other than the details of the presidents appointments/movements for the day (which are publicly available WITHOUT attending the briefings), what purpose do these "tame" press conferences serve ?
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. . us imbeciles . . .
You said it

But maybe you didn't need the plural
I will asked you again.

How did the FBI head coming out late saying "there is more to look into regarding Clinton" win her the popular vote ?
Well first you were wrong as the FBI cleared her,there was never any prospect of the Orange suit lark. Then the head of the FBI uses a pretext to go against the rules. He commited misconduct in public office by announcing on a shallow pretext that she was under investigation again before clearing her again

Even if that reduced her popular vote win by just 1% it was enough to swing the electoral college votes

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How did the Russians hack the electoral college in every state ?
No one said that did they, so please deal with the truth. Access to the Democrats detail information on voter intent by district will have greatly helped Trump target his campaigning and he won by use of such targeting.

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Only asking a simple question no need to get nasty ::)
ah bless, no nastiness here

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BTW I won't report you for the ad hom "imbecile" I got a pair of balls,can take it.But I will be watching yours and everyone elses of your cabal in future and will have no problem hitting that report button, works both ways
Report away, we need a laugh. Perhaps you could explain in the report how quoting your own words is an insult?

I notice you were unable to substantiate your corruption allegation
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Yeah, it takes a real genius to inherit a fortune.
Not really.

But it takes a real genius to turn it into billions and run for POTUS and WIN.

BTW. I will ask you the same question.What's your achievements in life ?
If he'd simply invested his inheritance in index funds he would be richer now.

I didn't inherit a multi-million pound fortune so I don't think it's really a fair comparison. Besides, I'd bet my house that Tony Blair is a sh1t load richer than you, he's certainly achieved more, so what?
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Feb 26 2017, 06:56 PM
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Hmmm... am I the only one here to thing there is merit in restricting access to an informal press briefing and - far more importantly - the decline to attend the White House Press Pool dinner ?

To take the latter first.. does nobody but me think that this is a pretty corrupt tradition in the first place ?

And the former... America has freedom of the press. But that does NOT mean that the White House has to do their job FOR them. Or rather.. why do the press attend these briefings in the FIRST place ? Aren't they just a WH "propaganda" briefing ? (yeah... OK.. that's a slightly extreme description). How much REAL journalistic value does the WH press briefings actually HAVE ?

Remember when the Guardian boycotted the UK government press briefings, on the grounds that they where just propaganda ?
So the best way to combat press corruption and the use of propaganda is for the President to only allow friendly journalists to attend his press briefings?

Really?
Well, at least it is honest ? If I was the BBC, or CNN, I'd simply refuse to attend in the first place.

THINK about it; other than the details of the presidents appointments/movements for the day (which are publicly available WITHOUT attending the briefings), what purpose do these "tame" press conferences serve ?
If it's no big deal why exclude certain journalists?

Does it not concern you at all that the leader of the free world seems to be so absurdly thin skinned?
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Just about all of the last umpteen presidents climbed the greasy poll to get where they were. They got where they were by friending the right people, doing the done things and sold their soul to the people who paid for their campaigns.
Trump is a yahoo maverick who came to power on the political zeitgeist of the US working class. He saw the potential of the disenfranchised and resentful and spoke to them not patronised them. He doesnt owe anyone in Washington a thing. He doesn't give a shit about the media. While Hilary's showbiz friends shamed her ( madonna said she would give a blow jo in return for voting for Hilary..no takers then) he was telling all the ordinary people what they already knew..that the political elite that leads them are corrupt hypocrites who are leading them off a cliff.
So whine about him all you want but you are going to have to live with it for at least four years....Four years that I am going to enjoy..hope its eight
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Feb 26 2017, 07:09 PM
Just about all of the last umpteen presidents climbed the greasy poll to get where they were. They got where they were by friending the right people, doing the done things and sold their soul to the people who paid for their campaigns.
Trump is a yahoo maverick who came to power on the political zeitgeist of the US working class. He saw the potential of the disenfranchised and resentful and spoke to them not patronised them. He doesnt owe anyone in Washington a thing. He doesn't give a shit about the media. While Hilary's showbiz friends shamed her ( madonna said she would give a blow jo in return for voting for Hilary..no takers then) he was telling all the ordinary people what they already knew..that the political elite that leads them are corrupt hypocrites who are leading them off a cliff.
So whine about him all you want but you are going to have to live with it for at least four years....Four years that I am going to enjoy..hope its eight
So they struck a blow against the elite by electing a billionaire who has filled his cabinet with other billionaires and corporate CEOs?

Yeah, power to the people.
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Feb 26 2017, 07:09 PM
Just about all of the last umpteen presidents climbed the greasy poll to get where they were. They got where they were by friending the right people, doing the done things and sold their soul to the people who paid for their campaigns.
Trump is a yahoo maverick who came to power on the political zeitgeist of the US working class. He saw the potential of the disenfranchised and resentful and spoke to them not patronised them. He doesnt owe anyone in Washington a thing. He doesn't give a shit about the media. While Hilary's showbiz friends shamed her ( madonna said she would give a blow jo in return for voting for Hilary..no takers then) he was telling all the ordinary people what they already knew..that the political elite that leads them are corrupt hypocrites who are leading them off a cliff.
So whine about him all you want but you are going to have to live with it for at least four years....Four years that I am going to enjoy..hope its eight
Ditto that, but, I think that two lessons have been learned here, one by the politicians and one by the American electorate, they have sent a message to the hill that they will no longer tolerate being taken for granted and shat upon.

Much the same happened in the UK and may well happen elsewhere in Europe.

Folks have had enough of those with snouts in the trough telling the rest of us how to live our lives. ;-)
Edited by Rich, Feb 26 2017, 07:18 PM.
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Well, the Flying Circus moves on.

It appears Trump is being lambasted for winding back the Executive position relating to Marijuana growth, supply and use in certain states. As some members may be aware, Obama gave an executive order (or at least... heavy hint) that the Federal Government would turn the proverbial 'blind eye' to such activities, leading to several states virtually de-prohibiting the growth etc of the Great Weed.

He is being accused of creating massive damage by doing this, and single-handedly creating a "prohibition-era" type situation, with greater profits for drug barons blah blah blah, criminalising the growers blah blah blah, bringing about the end of civilisation blah blah blah.

Of course, all he is ACTUALLY doing is enforcing the will of Congress, who passed the relevant laws relating to Marijuana. But nobody is reporting THAT !

Personally, I think this a mistake; the laws should be changed. However, I can only repeat.. he is enforcing the will of the Legislature elected by the people of the USA.

Obviously he should be castigated for such vile racist fascist islamophobic racist homophobic racist Zionist fascist racist... umm...

Did I get them all in ?
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Just about all of the last umpteen presidents climbed the greasy poll to get where they were. They got where they were by friending the right people, doing the done things and sold their soul to the people who paid for their campaigns.
Trump is a yahoo maverick who came to power on the political zeitgeist of the US working class. He saw the potential of the disenfranchised and resentful and spoke to them not patronised them. He doesnt owe anyone in Washington a thing. He doesn't give a shit about the media. While Hilary's showbiz friends shamed her ( madonna said she would give a blow jo in return for voting for Hilary..no takers then) he was telling all the ordinary people what they already knew..that the political elite that leads them are corrupt hypocrites who are leading them off a cliff.
So whine about him all you want but you are going to have to live with it for at least four years....Four years that I am going to enjoy..hope its eight
So they struck a blow against the elite by electing a billionaire who has filled his cabinet with other billionaires and corporate CEOs?

Yeah, power to the people.


Well there is very little chance that someone who has no money or influence getting into the White House. Trump owes the political establishment no favours .If you want a bus driver to get the job and fill the Whitehouse full of manual workers and school teachers it will only happen in your imagination
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Feb 26 2017, 07:19 PM
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Feb 26 2017, 07:09 PM
Just about all of the last umpteen presidents climbed the greasy poll to get where they were. They got where they were by friending the right people, doing the done things and sold their soul to the people who paid for their campaigns.
Trump is a yahoo maverick who came to power on the political zeitgeist of the US working class. He saw the potential of the disenfranchised and resentful and spoke to them not patronised them. He doesnt owe anyone in Washington a thing. He doesn't give a shit about the media. While Hilary's showbiz friends shamed her ( madonna said she would give a blow jo in return for voting for Hilary..no takers then) he was telling all the ordinary people what they already knew..that the political elite that leads them are corrupt hypocrites who are leading them off a cliff.
So whine about him all you want but you are going to have to live with it for at least four years....Four years that I am going to enjoy..hope its eight
So they struck a blow against the elite by electing a billionaire who has filled his cabinet with other billionaires and corporate CEOs?

Yeah, power to the people.


Well there is very little chance that someone who has no money or influence getting into the White House. Trump owes the political establishment no favours .If you want a bus driver to get the job and fill the Whitehouse full of manual workers and school teachers it will only happen in your imagination
One of his earliest acts as President was to sign an Executive Order de-regulating Wall Street.

Trump is a card carrying member of the elite and wil serve their interests not the people's.
Edited by Happy Hornet, Feb 26 2017, 07:23 PM.
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Feb 26 2017, 07:17 PM
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Just about all of the last umpteen presidents climbed the greasy poll to get where they were. They got where they were by friending the right people, doing the done things and sold their soul to the people who paid for their campaigns.
Trump is a yahoo maverick who came to power on the political zeitgeist of the US working class. He saw the potential of the disenfranchised and resentful and spoke to them not patronised them. He doesnt owe anyone in Washington a thing. He doesn't give a shit about the media. While Hilary's showbiz friends shamed her ( madonna said she would give a blow jo in return for voting for Hilary..no takers then) he was telling all the ordinary people what they already knew..that the political elite that leads them are corrupt hypocrites who are leading them off a cliff.
So whine about him all you want but you are going to have to live with it for at least four years....Four years that I am going to enjoy..hope its eight
Ditto that, but, I think that two lessons have been learned here, one by the politicians and one by the American electorate, they have sent a message to the hill that they will no longer tolerate being taken for granted and shat upon.

Much the same happened in the UK and may well happen elsewhere in Europe.

Folks have had enough of those with snouts in the trough telling the rest of us how to live our lives. ;-)


Yup and the bitter 'centre left '(sic) are telling us that he is a right winger while their political heroes pretend to represent them when they are really representing financial institutions.
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Wait.. hold on a minute HH....

Executive Orders only apply to the Government, and only to clarify public policy under the terms of the Law. (as passed by Congress).

So how - exactly - did he "de-regulate" Wall Street ?
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Wait.. hold on a minute HH....

Executive Orders only apply to the Government, and only to clarify public policy under the terms of the Law. (as passed by Congress).

So how - exactly - did he "de-regulate" Wall Street ?
He signed 2 EOs lightening the regulatory load on financial institutions.
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