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| Topic Started: Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM (1,550 Views) | |
| C-too | Jan 7 2017, 07:31 AM Post #1 |
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Donald trump agrees that there was Russian interference in the election, but he says it did not influence the outcome of the election. No influence on the outcome because he says so IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.
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| C-too | Mar 5 2018, 02:02 PM Post #2641 |
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tut tut. |
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| Steve K | Mar 7 2018, 09:59 AM Post #2642 |
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This story isn't going away as she's now filed a law suit to have the confidentiality agreement nullified http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43312158 I'd say but I suspect the details to be revealed might be a bit prurient. But we'll lap them up anyway.
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| Deleted User | Mar 7 2018, 10:08 AM Post #2643 |
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Clinton makes Trump look like a Boy Scout https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations Bill Clinton, the 42nd President of the United States (1993–2001), has been publicly accused of sexual misconduct by three women: Juanita Broaddrick accuses Clinton of raping her in 1978; Kathleen Willey accuses Clinton of groping her without consent in 1993; and Paula Jones accuses Clinton of exposing himself to her in 1991 and sexually harassing her. The Jones allegations became public in 1994, while Willey's and Broaddrick's became public during the 1998–99 time period, toward the end of Clinton's second term as president Charges of sexual misconduct on Clinton's part regained publicity during the 2016 presidential campaign of his wife, Hillary Clinton. A lewd recording of Clinton's opponent, Donald Trump, discussing the ability to grope women when one is in power, was released during the campaign, which brought into light Bill Clinton's accusers. Broaddrick, Willey, and Jones reemerged into the public sphere as critics of Hillary Clinton, accusing her of enabling her husband's alleged sexual assaults |
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| Steve K | Mar 13 2018, 01:21 PM Post #2644 |
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And now he's sacked Rex Tillerson one of his very few good appointments but long suspected to hold Trump in contempt http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43388723 Timing was priceless just after Boris was crowing about Tlllerson's support |
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 13 2018, 05:37 PM Post #2645 |
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You see the same deflection tactic used from forum to forum. It is almost "cookie cutter" in nature and you have to wonder if there is a published procedure for it. Bill Clinton was the President A QUARTER OF A CENTURY AGO. Didn't like George Bush Jr? Well, there was always Herbert Hoover! Didn't like Edward the 8th? Don't forget George the 3rd! Trump is President. We are in the here and now and it is a major mess. Try and stick with us and deal with this 21st century leader. We are 1/5th of the way through this "new" century and there is zero, zip, nada value in re-visiting the President before the President before the President before the current one, who held power back in the last century. |
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| Steve K | Mar 13 2018, 07:56 PM Post #2646 |
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yep and sadly it is very hard to prevent |
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| Tigger | Mar 13 2018, 08:42 PM Post #2647 |
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Tillerson has been sacked now. Ah it's been done already.......... Might send my CV in, you never know. Edited by Tigger, Mar 13 2018, 08:42 PM.
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 13 2018, 09:20 PM Post #2648 |
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Sorry. The US Constitution clearly stipulates that the post of Secretary of State may only be held by those born on this planet. |
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| C-too | Mar 16 2018, 10:55 AM Post #2649 |
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Perhaps we need to wait for the full history of Trump to be made public ? |
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 16 2018, 12:55 PM Post #2650 |
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It's a cheap and sordid one. |
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| Steve K | Mar 16 2018, 01:10 PM Post #2651 |
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Surely the point at hand raised by gansao was that Clinton and Paula Jones case which was the key legal relevance of the Monica Lewinsky scandal IMHO it does show a degree of double standards in the media (and other observers) but does nothing to exonerate Trump |
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| C-too | Mar 17 2018, 09:08 AM Post #2652 |
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Agreed. Then there was the "Get Clinton" childishness of right-wing Americans who forgot they set out to get something political on him and spent a sizeable budget to get Clinton on anything. I doubt any such in depth research will ever take place on Trump. |
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 17 2018, 11:04 AM Post #2653 |
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Well, "Stromy Daniels" is about to reveal all (STAY TUNED!) for whatever reason but the sort of salacious tittle-tattle that dogged Clinton takes a back seat to far more serious issues surrounding Trump. The Republic is in trouble. This will end badly https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/retired-four-star-army-general-trump-‘serious-threat-to-us-national-security’/ar-BBKjPuO?li=AAggFp5 https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/trump-takes-victory-lap-on-mccabe-firing-a-great-day-for-democracy/ar-BBKklr9?li=AAggFp5 Edited by Curious Cdn, Mar 17 2018, 11:10 AM.
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| Steve K | Mar 17 2018, 11:18 AM Post #2654 |
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And Trump is apparently going to sue Daniels for $20M. Oh I so hope they show that court case on live TV as any decent lawyer will make Trump poo and even better perjure himself
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 17 2018, 08:55 PM Post #2655 |
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This would be a good time for Melania to dump him. MAGA! |
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| Steve K | Mar 22 2018, 05:22 PM Post #2656 |
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He does that and impeachment definitely moves a notch nearer |
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| Steve K | Mar 22 2018, 10:37 PM Post #2657 |
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And now he's sacked his National Security Adviser http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43509695 At the very least if he has to sack them so quickly it shows he's a very poor picker of people for key roles. But then that would reflect the US electorate |
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 23 2018, 11:44 PM Post #2658 |
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He's replacing him with John Bolton, a well known Fox News commentator famous for advocating for the bombing of Iran before they acquire the Bomb. You may remember him as the US United Nations ambassador who hoodwinked you lot into ignoring Hans Blix and joining their "Coalition of the Willing" ...the US, the UK and Disneylandistan, as I recall. http://time.com/5211928/hr-mcmaster-resign-john-bolton-trump-white-house-national-security-advisor/ This guy is too radical for the Waffen SS. |
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| Rich | Mar 23 2018, 11:47 PM Post #2659 |
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I have never been really sure of what a "geek" actually is, but if I was asked to give an example....then it would be him, he looks like a mad professor, even my wife has said he makes ME look normal
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 23 2018, 11:55 PM Post #2660 |
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(As an aside, I just spent the day surrounded by around 2000 teenaged geeks at a high school level robotics competition at our Waterloo University. It gave me a warm and fuzzy to see so many super-bright kids seemingly devoid of the usual teenage baggage that drags so many of them down, assembled in one place. There isn't one low-life hillbilly within five kilometers of the place.) |
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| Steve K | Apr 2 2018, 11:05 AM Post #2661 |
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And now Trump has triggered exactly the tit for tat trade war pre skirmishes he was warned about http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-43614400 "China has imposed tariffs of up to 25% on 128 US imports, including pork and wine, after US President Donald Trump raised duties on foreign steel and aluminium imports in March. The tariffs affecting some $3bn (£2.1bn) of imports kick in on Monday." |
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| Rich | Apr 2 2018, 11:12 AM Post #2662 |
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It was to be expected, but I believe that both sides will row back on this when the dust settles and reality sinks in. |
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| Steve K | Apr 29 2018, 02:34 PM Post #2663 |
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from another thread
No he didn't, he gave a massive tax cut to the rich which those "forgotten classes" will have to pay for as the US and especially the $ struggles with that new budget deficit http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/12/news/economy/budget-deficit/index.html Those "forgotten classes" are going to see increased mortgage payments and higher inflation just so Trump's buddies get richer |
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| Rich | Apr 29 2018, 03:20 PM Post #2664 |
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Okay, so let.s see how the mid terms go and maybe if he get's a second term, I stand by what I have said many times.....voters get what they deserve just as diners do in a restaurant when they choose. Here, have a bit of levity and humour, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALGkQq3RJ7k Edited by Rich, Apr 29 2018, 04:07 PM.
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| Curious Cdn | Apr 29 2018, 04:34 PM Post #2665 |
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He's not going to make it to a second term. President Pence will be pardoning him around that time. |
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| Rich | Apr 29 2018, 08:26 PM Post #2666 |
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Barak Obama predicted that Trump would never be President.....stranger things have happened at sea.
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| C-too | Apr 29 2018, 08:54 PM Post #2667 |
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Sounds like Laffer and the discredited Laffer Curve is back. Trickle-down anyone ? |
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| C-too | Apr 29 2018, 08:56 PM Post #2668 |
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He obviously didn't allow for the 'bullshit baffles brains' factor. |
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| Steve K | Apr 29 2018, 09:49 PM Post #2669 |
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Who says 'discredited'? That'd be just you then. Both Laffer and trickle down are real effects, the problem is some over use them to justify woefully inappropriate policies |
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| C-too | Apr 30 2018, 08:58 AM Post #2670 |
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Laffer himself, on TV when explaining his tax curve, said the aim was the eventual elimination of (income ?) tax. That businesses would reinvest profits in jobs and everyone would benefit. The reality was that during that era of lowering taxation, there was no serious reinvestment in jobs, but the rich did get very much richer. Edited by C-too, Apr 30 2018, 09:00 AM.
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| Steve K | Apr 30 2018, 09:09 AM Post #2671 |
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The curve itself is proven. Just because Laffer may have had some odd ideas too doesn't change that The real issue with Laffer curves is deciding just where the point of diminishing returns is - there are always so many vested interests arguing for a placement that suits their agenda and not always honestly so arguing And trickle down does occur. If the rich that were born elsewhere that brought their riches here didn't spend money here then just about everyone would be somewhat poorer. But it's only ever a mitigation of home grown wealth division |
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| papasmurf | Apr 30 2018, 09:19 AM Post #2672 |
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Which ignores what greedy grabbing bastards big business is. He has a similar naïveté to Frederick Winslow Taylor. Taylorism was soon bastardised into Fordism. |
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| C-too | Apr 30 2018, 04:41 PM Post #2673 |
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There is some truth in the idea of diminishing returns and trickle down, i.e. basic, as we know it, capitalism. But as for Laffer, Thatcher and Reagan (and now it seems Trump), it was nothing more than a con job. Proven by the outcomes of the time. |
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| scorpio | Apr 30 2018, 10:59 PM Post #2674 |
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Nominations for the Nobel peace prize? Anyone, Ah anyone... Oh Hello Donald... |
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| Curious Cdn | May 1 2018, 01:10 AM Post #2675 |
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You've got to be kidding ... award the Donald the Nobel prize for threatening fire and fury? If there is reason to even award a prize for Korea (time will tell) Comrade Kim and Moon Jae-in should split it. If they actually manage to achieve peace on the Korean Penninsula, they are the responsible parties, not some egomaniacal loudmouth bully. Edited by Curious Cdn, May 1 2018, 02:46 PM.
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| Steve K | May 3 2018, 11:34 AM Post #2676 |
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And now more Stormy Daniels trouble as Rudi Giuliani (now of his legal team) attempting to cover up what looks like an illegal campaign contribution to Trump blurts out that Trump paid it back thereby admitting he knew about the payoff which means he was on the record lying Well Donald I hope she was worth the money and possibility your presidency, personally I wouldn't touch her with a disinfected barge pole but then maybe Melania thinks the same about toxic Donald http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43985260 |
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| Curious Cdn | May 3 2018, 12:05 PM Post #2677 |
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Another one of Trump's Iawyers ... Ty Cobb ... quit, yesterday. Rats leaving the ship ... |
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| Steve K | Jun 14 2018, 09:34 PM Post #2678 |
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More legal trouble for Trump New York is suing him and his charity alleging "extensive and persistent" lawbreaking. Seems they believe he used charity funds for his presidential campaign He may soon need that alleged ability to pardon himself https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44486250 |
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| Steve K | Jun 23 2018, 10:28 AM Post #2679 |
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And Trump continues to flip flop around. His all new bestest best friend Kim is back on the bad guys list https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44584957 "US President Donald Trump has renewed sanctions on North Korea, citing an "extraordinary threat" from its nuclear weapons - just 10 days after saying there was no risk from Pyongyang." |
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| Curious Cdn | Jun 23 2018, 11:40 PM Post #2680 |
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The man is mentally I'll. |
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IMO he has exposed his Mr Smart Mouth immaturity.



but I suspect the details to be revealed might be a bit prurient. But we'll lap them up anyway.

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