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| Accusations about 'The French'; split from family silver | |
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| Topic Started: Mar 12 2018, 02:51 AM (1,756 Views) | |
| Jonksy | Mar 12 2018, 02:51 AM Post #1 |
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As per usual you answered nothing...And maybe you would like to comment on why Belgium refused to supply the UK with ammo and we had to procure it from the Dutch and lets us not even mention the fact that the French helped Argentina as you think the sun shines out of the EUSSR's rectum... http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/falkland-islands/45704/bbc-finds-evidence-french-helped-argentines-sink-our-ships https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200102/cmhansrd/vo020410/halltext/20410h02.htm |
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| Stonefish | Mar 18 2018, 07:14 AM Post #81 |
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No it doesn't ,I get on with most people ,I've travelled the world extensively and lived in a several countries .But I have yet to find a Frenchman I warmed to .I tend to take people as I find them it doesn't matter where they are from.However I have yet to find a Frenchman I've warmed to . |
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| C-too | Mar 18 2018, 11:32 AM Post #82 |
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Please, no implied swearing on the board
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| Stonefish | Mar 18 2018, 12:12 PM Post #83 |
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 18 2018, 12:28 PM Post #84 |
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DeGaulle's meddling in Canadian domestic affairs was and still is seen as a deep betrayal by an ungrateful France. We can and do solve our own constitutional problems without mean spirited demagogue outsiders telling us what to do. |
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| Steve K | Mar 18 2018, 01:02 PM Post #85 |
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had to look that one up. Every day a new fact
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| Rich | Mar 18 2018, 01:34 PM Post #86 |
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Here's a question for you.....is the "R" still relevant in RCMP?....sorry to drift off topic but the thought suddenly came to me for no other reason than curiosity. |
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| Steve K | Mar 18 2018, 01:53 PM Post #87 |
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IIRC Canadian Government contracts still refer to themselves as 'the Crown' so I bet that R is still Royal |
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 18 2018, 04:00 PM Post #88 |
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So far, yes. Canadians still love the "Royal" part. They may very well not a generation from now and it wouldn't surprise me if the British ere more republican than the Canadians are, right now. |
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| Stonefish | Mar 18 2018, 09:07 PM Post #89 |
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With Harry and William steering things I think the Royals popularity can only increase,both here and abroad. |
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 19 2018, 12:01 AM Post #90 |
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We'll see but Canada is not rushing to drop the monarchy. The Yanks love the Royals, btw. especially when their own elected "Royal family" are serious wankers, as they often are. Edited by Curious Cdn, Mar 19 2018, 12:01 AM.
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| Jus | Mar 19 2018, 01:32 AM Post #91 |
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Little point in dropping the monarchy until the Idea of a replacement emerges. Why Canada or any other Commonwealth Country still recognises an unelected head of State as their highest whatever is astonishing. Still, I’m probably missing the point again. |
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 19 2018, 06:33 AM Post #92 |
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It is written deeply into our Constitution to have a monarch. To change our Constitution, we would need the unanimous agreement of all of the provinces of our federation to do so. That is damned near impossible to achieve and a herd of cats is more manageable. Edited by Curious Cdn, Mar 19 2018, 12:44 PM.
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| Stonefish | Mar 19 2018, 07:20 AM Post #93 |
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Yes,you are missing the point ,several really. The Queen holds an honorific position .It recognises the history of the country but is entirely harmless ,and you get to have your own Royal Family with all the pomp and circumstance thrown in. It's a bit like having a pet .The Royal Family are pretty well liked and respected ,anti Royalists wouldn't get it |
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| Jus | Mar 19 2018, 08:41 PM Post #94 |
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The Monarchy demonstrated real political power by removing an Australian elected Goverment not so long ago. They do however realise any Interference in the British democracy would swiftly see them removed from any real political Imput. They are wise enough and rich enough to get the best legal opinions on Constitutional matters to make that unlikely. Doesn’t mean you have to like them though. |
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| Stonefish | Mar 19 2018, 10:10 PM Post #95 |
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Really? when was that then link please. No you don't have to like them,i love them. |
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| Steve K | Mar 19 2018, 10:15 PM Post #96 |
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I would guess he's referring to when Gough Whitlam was sacked by the Queen's representative so technically he's right on that one It was yonks ago though and IIRC not exactly unnecessary |
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| C-too | Mar 20 2018, 07:14 AM Post #97 |
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IIRC, it was a political move that was used without the Queen actually being involved. There were some comments that claimed it caused some embarrassment to the Queen. |
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| Jus | Mar 22 2018, 09:15 PM Post #98 |
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Progress in a democracy means removing the Idea of Inherited privilege from any form of social behaviour. Down grading the Windsor’s would be a good start. |
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 22 2018, 10:35 PM Post #99 |
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Downgrading them in the manner that the Bourbons were "adjusted" may be appropriate but there is always the danger that too many people may lose their heads in the exitement. |
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| Rich | Mar 22 2018, 11:08 PM Post #100 |
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As we are on the subject of France, a quick diversion if I may. Today, the French militant sector of the workforce went on strike to object to Macrons plans to increase working hours and taxes and other such things, other strikes are also planned that will (once again) bring the country to a standstill. This will be Macrons first taste of the militants, and militant actions that have seen other French Presidents scuttling for cover and quickly caving in to demands. It will be interesting to see who blinks first. My apologies for momentarily diverting the thread.
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| Steve K | Mar 22 2018, 11:18 PM Post #101 |
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On topic imho And yes it will be interesting. My money's on Macron |
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 23 2018, 12:09 AM Post #102 |
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Protests in the streets of France? It's the first sign of spring! |
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| Affa | Mar 23 2018, 12:20 AM Post #103 |
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Mine isn't. He's too neo liberal for France. |
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| Rich | Mar 23 2018, 12:55 AM Post #104 |
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I am of the same opinion, he was elected on a wave of optimism and change, this will certainly test his mettle, how much misery and strife is he prepared to put upon the people that voted for him in order to carry out his promises (just like Trump) before he starts losing his voter base? As I say, it will be interesting to see who blinks first...better men with more experience have tried and failed. |
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| C-too | Mar 23 2018, 07:03 AM Post #105 |
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I prefer the Royals as things are, in preference to jumped up toadies who come and go like Reagan, Bush Jnr and now Trump. Add your own list of ex presidents if you wish
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| C-too | Mar 23 2018, 07:05 AM Post #106 |
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It looks more like realism to me, and far better than some form of neo communism. |
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| Jus | Mar 23 2018, 08:53 PM Post #107 |
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Accepting the Idea that an Aristocracy should have any control in a democracy is a contradiction. Get rid of them and replace the system by a Meritocracy. |
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| Steve K | Mar 23 2018, 09:03 PM Post #108 |
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But what if the electorate democratically support having our monarchy? And given a referendum on the issue do you really doubt that's what they'd support |
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| Stonefish | Mar 23 2018, 09:04 PM Post #109 |
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No thanks |
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| C-too | Mar 24 2018, 08:42 AM Post #110 |
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The last I heard the Monarchy had a 60% plus of the population in their favour. When living in Liverpool for over 60years I worked with, drank with, holidayed with, been in football teams with many Catholics, I can say there is an element of Catholics, definitely not all, who are against the Monarchy on religious grounds, nothing to do with any insinuations over politics or aristocracy. |
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| Rich | Mar 25 2018, 02:57 PM Post #111 |
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Perhaps the time has come round again for a "reformation"? |
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| Rich | Mar 25 2018, 03:00 PM Post #112 |
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BTW, I suppose it is fair to say that it's a good job that one member at least is posting.....where TF is everyone? |
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| Curious Cdn | Mar 25 2018, 04:55 PM Post #113 |
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France. |
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| Rich | Mar 25 2018, 05:16 PM Post #114 |
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Well, at least that makes two of us.................briefly.
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| Stonefish | Mar 25 2018, 07:35 PM Post #115 |
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Suspended ? xosg, Tigger , ? It's quite interesting looking at member activity there's only about 25 currently posting and a few old names from the past are interesting, long gone,like Dirty Harry. |
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| Steve K | Mar 25 2018, 07:55 PM Post #116 |
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Dirty Harry has only ever posted once. Make what you can out of that: http://w11.zetaboards.com/UK_Debate_Mk_2/single/?p=8356507&t=10951545 Only two posters of significance of the last years are currently on a ban. One expires this evening, the other on Tuesday. You didn't name either Maybe several see the more neanderthally offensive posts that occur here and don't want to to be part of such a forum. I've had several PMs over the years suggesting that has been an issue Edited by Steve K, Mar 25 2018, 08:19 PM.
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| Stonefish | Mar 25 2018, 09:07 PM Post #117 |
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I remember him posting a lot ,must have been on the old forum Yes I dare say some have been put off by my posts ,but I don't doubt some left because of certain modding antics, in fact I know for sure that is the case |
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| Rich | Mar 25 2018, 09:50 PM Post #118 |
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I do believe that he posted once on this new board and lives somewhere in the USA, I liked Harry's line of thought. |
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| Stonefish | Mar 25 2018, 09:57 PM Post #119 |
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Me to. |
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| C-too | Mar 25 2018, 11:01 PM Post #120 |
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With better support than Outers got in the referendum ? I'm surprised at your post, unless your suggestion is based upon the point made in my post ? |
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had to look that one up. Every day a new fact
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