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| "Little House on the Prairie" racist? | |
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| Topic Started: Jun 26 2018, 07:36 AM (123 Views) | |
| papasmurf | Jun 26 2018, 07:36 AM Post #1 |
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I really despair sometimes, books written using the language of the time they are set in, merely reflect the reality. I find this news item ridiculous:- More at link:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44604844 Laura Ingalls Wilder removed from book award over racist language 25 June 2018 The US Association for Library Service to Children (ALSC) has removed Laura Ingalls Wilder's name from one of its awards over racist views and language. The association had received complaints for years over the Little House on the Prairie author's "anti-Native and anti-Black sentiments in her work". The ALSC board voted unanimously on Saturday to remove Wilder's name from the children's literature award. The medal will be renamed as the Children's Literature Legacy award. The ALSC, a division of the American Library Association, said Wilder's novels and "expressions of stereotypical attitudes" were "inconsistent with ALSC's core values". |
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| Steve K | Jun 26 2018, 07:39 AM Post #2 |
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So you are saying Mein Kampf, historical burning of supposed witches, mocking of the disabled and the Spanish Inquisition are all just great because that was what was OK at the time? Think it through |
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| papasmurf | Jun 26 2018, 07:44 AM Post #3 |
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No I effing am not. I do not like the whitewashing of history it is as simple as that. |
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| Pro Veritas | Jun 26 2018, 08:50 AM Post #4 |
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I don't believe anyone is saying that. But all of those things happened within the socio-political context of their times. Personally I am upbeat that we can read these things and see how far - in most cases - we have moved on from those times - it gives me hope that future generations will not be as dumb as past generations. One of things I was taught at University while studying Ancient History, Archaeology and Religion was that it is key to understand things such as Religious Beliefs within the context of their times. The sentiments expressed by some of the characters in LHotP regarding Native Americans and African Americans were entirely accurate for the period Wilder was describing, and indeed for most of the first half of the 20thC, that they are no longer so prevalent now - and that contrast can be seen by reading material from when they were - is, surely, a good thing. That a child may today read LHotP and think some of those sentiments are no longer appropriate is a thing that should be celebrated, far more so than the extremely unlikely scenario that a child may read LHotP and think "yeah, we should treat Indians and Blacks like that". Because how a child reacts to that scenario is influenced far more by the example set to them by their parents, than by what children's book they read. This smacks of "SJW PC gone mad", and it smacks of it, because it is it. All The Best |
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| papasmurf | Jun 26 2018, 09:03 AM Post #5 |
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Precisely. This is worth watching from 25 minutes onwards, Burgess Meredith advice to American troops in Britain:- |
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| Steve K | Jun 26 2018, 09:06 AM Post #6 |
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Yes but no one has banned the book, just said they don't want its author so celebrated |
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| papasmurf | Jun 26 2018, 09:22 AM Post #7 |
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The books have literary merit, (the TV series no comment.) I suspect Mark Twain's works will be banned at this rate. |
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| johnofgwent | Jun 26 2018, 10:06 AM Post #8 |
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It .. It is GREEN !!
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I think I'd say the rabid left don't understand the irony of their desire for bookburnings. |
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| Steve K | Jun 26 2018, 10:09 AM Post #9 |
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Except no one mentioned book burnings Is this hyperbole month or something? |
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| papasmurf | Jun 26 2018, 10:12 AM Post #10 |
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What are you on about? |
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| johnofgwent | Jun 26 2018, 12:17 PM Post #11 |
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It .. It is GREEN !!
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simply that this is just another ratchet in the "tear down the statues, rename the awards, remove the authors work from the public gaze bull shit. it's not hyperbole it's happening. it started with Enid Blyton and goblins added link https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6359248/Noddy-returns-without-the-golliwogs.html Edited by johnofgwent, Jun 26 2018, 12:34 PM.
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| papasmurf | Jun 26 2018, 12:19 PM Post #12 |
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What has this to do with "the left?" |
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| johnofgwent | Jun 26 2018, 04:53 PM Post #13 |
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oh ffs find me a Tory voter that supports this. |
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| papasmurf | Jun 26 2018, 05:39 PM Post #14 |
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Explain to me what lefties exist in the USA? |
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| C-too | Jun 26 2018, 09:46 PM Post #15 |
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I suspect that 'book burning' was just an attempt to exaggerate a point. There does appear to be a naïve nonsense that comes from many on the left. Labour's Chakrabarti gave a good example of it the last time I saw her interviewed on TV. Edited by C-too, Jun 26 2018, 09:48 PM.
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| johnofgwent | Jun 26 2018, 10:27 PM Post #16 |
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It .. It is GREEN !!
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oh really, you are the limit. can i suggest you google "occupy democrats" for a daily tirade of the sort of utter bullshit to which I refer. |
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| Curious Cdn | Jun 27 2018, 05:14 AM Post #17 |
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That was a really interesting movie. The scene of Bob Hope shaking down Burgess Merideth in a London cab was classic! I was reminded of an old family friend who spent years in England waiting to go overseas as a tank gunner in the Canadian Army. Their fun "sport" was beating up "Snowballs" ... American Military Police .. and he went back and forth from Sargeant to Private several times before the Army gave up on him, sent him to Sandhurst and he eventually ended us as a Lieutenant Colonel. |
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| Jessamy Bride | Jun 27 2018, 04:06 PM Post #18 |
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The settlers killed Indians and stole their land. There is no good being all sorry about it 200 years later.... Apologetic people living in the present cannot alter the past... and their regret means nothing. It happened. Just make sure it doesn't happen again. |
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| Curious Cdn | Jun 28 2018, 12:16 AM Post #19 |
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What a ridiculously simplistic history. Where I live, the agricultural native population (Wendat) was totally wiped out in the mid 1600s by smallpox and the Iroquois Confederacy who were acting on behalf of their Dutch allies. White setters did not reach here until 175 years later. By then, the area had been become part of the yearly migration route of the iitinerant Mississauga hunter-gatherers from up north and as the towns around here grew and grew, they were re-settled further north, away from the urban areas and able to live their hunter-gatherer lives ... never being "killed off" by any settlers at all, ever. https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/huron/ You seem to watch way too much trashy telly, you do. Edited by Curious Cdn, Jun 28 2018, 12:24 AM.
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