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Tom Brady's Season
Topic Started: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:48 pm (978 Views)
BlindDeafandMute
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Oct 15 2007, 03:28 PM
BlindDeafandMute
Oct 15 2007, 11:06 AM
Tom Brady is a beast.

Two words... Randy Moss.

Now, I'm not saying Brady isn't good. He's arguablly, and IMO the best all around QB of this decade (2000-now), but you have to acknowledge what Moss does for QB's. His athletism is bar none in the NFL. He makes grabs 80% of the leagues WR's only dream of or make once in a lifetime.

Without Moss, Brady would not be on pace for 56 TD's or have a 10/1 ratio of INT's.

Remember when you laughed that I said Randy Moss is still a top 5 WR, he just isn't motivated? :P

JCM buried Randy Moss, talked about how he was completely done, finished, no more.
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CELTS20
Oct 15 2007, 04:16 PM
Lets not get into Arizona....

Why? :huh:

That's a perfect example of WR's making QB's.
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BlindDeafandMute
Oct 15 2007, 04:49 PM
Remember when you laughed that I said Randy Moss is still a top 5 WR, he just isn't motivated?  :P

-_-

Then, he got out of Oakland.
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CELTS20
Oct 15 2007, 04:16 PM
Lets review something for a moment.

Marvin Harrison > Randy Moss (according to Bayboy)
Reggie Wayne > Randy Moss (according to Bayboy)
Dallas Clark > Ben Watson & Wes Welker

Someone, please explain to me why Tom Brady is having all of this success because of his receivers? :huh:

The theory that people have about Wide Receivers making Quarterbacks who they are are ridiculous. Without a doubt, Quarterbacks make the receiver. Just look at Randy Moss' situation in Oakland for crying out loud. Over the past few years the Raiders have arguably had a more TALENTED receiving core, and their passing game has been atrocious. Lets not get into Arizona....

Randy Moss was flat out lazy in Oakland. His route running was pathetic. He wasn't running at his full speed. He just didn't look like Randy Moss, he wasn't giving 100% every game...or any game for that matter. He hated it with the Raiders and didn't play to his full potential.

Jorry Porter was putting up nice numbers before Moss came to Oakland, but once Randy came to town Porter hated it. He wants to be a number one option and if he's not he doesn't give it his all, actually, he doesn't even play.
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Is there a heaven for uh mobsta?

I dont really think Moss makes Tom Brady, or the things he is doing. But Brady wouldn't be doing ungodly without him.

1. For anyone who thinks that Randy Moss made Daunte Culpepper in Minnsota, your wrong. Culpeppers amazing season(which was over shadowed by Peyton Manning) was done mostly without Randy Moss, due to injury. Culpepper still went on to have maybe the 2nd or third best season by a QB.

2. Tom was having a good season last year. Not the 21-2 stuff he is having right now, but still good nonetheless.

I think Brady is a top 2 QB(Its about even between Peyton and him for me). But i still think if you gave someone like Matt Hasselback receivers like Randy Moss, Donte Stallworth, Wes Welker and Ben Watson, i think he would be have an amazing season also.
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BlindDeafandMute
Oct 15 2007, 02:34 PM
You just named the top 3 QB's in the league, plus real good isn't what Brady is doing, Brady is doing historically good, as in having what could be the greatest season in the history of the game for a QB. I know other QB's wouldn't do the same because, uh Peyton has 10 TD's and he's got equal if not better talent, Carson has 8 INT's with great talent.

Other QB's wouldn't have 21 TD's and only 2 INT's in 6 games because uhhhhh, oh that's right not another QB is doing it. Peyton through 6 games only had 17 TD's and 3 INT's though 6 games in his historic season.

Please how can I prove other QB's wouldn't do the same with the same talent? That's a joke, name a mother fucking QB ever that has put up 21 TD's in 6 games, let alone only thrown 2 INT's in the process. Tom Brady doesn't have the best offense in the history of the game around him.

Also people talk like Dante Stallworth is so good, the guy is a career underachiever, never had 1,0000 yard season, only 1 time had more than 58 catches, averages 5 TD's a season. The dude is nothing special.

:o

Are you related to Brady or something? You are EXTREMELY defensive right now about, "your boy". Damn.
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BlindDeafandMute
Oct 15 2007, 06:49 PM
Mariners in 2007
Oct 15 2007, 03:28 PM
BlindDeafandMute
Oct 15 2007, 11:06 AM
Tom Brady is a beast.

Two words... Randy Moss.

Now, I'm not saying Brady isn't good. He's arguablly, and IMO the best all around QB of this decade (2000-now), but you have to acknowledge what Moss does for QB's. His athletism is bar none in the NFL. He makes grabs 80% of the leagues WR's only dream of or make once in a lifetime.

Without Moss, Brady would not be on pace for 56 TD's or have a 10/1 ratio of INT's.

Remember when you laughed that I said Randy Moss is still a top 5 WR, he just isn't motivated? :P

JCM buried Randy Moss, talked about how he was completely done, finished, no more.

I would be a good reciever if I had Tom Brady throwing to me too.... :mellow:
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JoeCoolMan24
Oct 15 2007, 05:58 PM
BlindDeafandMute
Oct 15 2007, 06:49 PM
Mariners in 2007
Oct 15 2007, 03:28 PM
BlindDeafandMute
Oct 15 2007, 11:06 AM
Tom Brady is a beast.

Two words... Randy Moss.

Now, I'm not saying Brady isn't good. He's arguablly, and IMO the best all around QB of this decade (2000-now), but you have to acknowledge what Moss does for QB's. His athletism is bar none in the NFL. He makes grabs 80% of the leagues WR's only dream of or make once in a lifetime.

Without Moss, Brady would not be on pace for 56 TD's or have a 10/1 ratio of INT's.

Remember when you laughed that I said Randy Moss is still a top 5 WR, he just isn't motivated? :P

JCM buried Randy Moss, talked about how he was completely done, finished, no more.

I would be a good reciever if I had Tom Brady throwing to me too.... :mellow:

So all of his receivers are bad and Brady makes them good? Yes, lets just throw out Moss' Vikqueens days, Welker's good year in Miami last season, and Stallworth's ability and say Brady makes them good. Sounds like an excuse to me.

Teh receivers have had as much as an effect on Brady as he has had on his receivers.

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BlindDeafandMute
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Bayboy asked if I could prove that other QB's wouldn't put up the #'s Brady is with his offense, so I responded. Being defensive is different than responding to an inquiry.

And come on, please you can't even admit you were wrong about Moss, how sad is that. Torry Holt had Kurt Warner and Marc Bulger throwing to him, I guess Torry Holt's accomplishments aren't valid. Come on dude, admitting your wrong is a part of life, and you were wrong about Moss.

On a side note,who's worshiping Brady more, the guy saying he's having a historic season, or the guy who apparently thinks Brady is so good he can take a dead washed up WR and turn him into the most productive WR in the game.
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So long, and thanks for all the fish...

BlindDeafandMute
Oct 15 2007, 02:54 PM
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Oct 15 2007, 10:09 AM
BlindDeafandMute
Oct 15 2007, 02:06 PM
Tom Brady on pace for 56 TD passes, has over a 10/1 TD/INT ratio, and a 128.9 QB rating, all while leading the league in passing as well.  Tom Brady is a beast.

Then again, with Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Donte Stallworth, and Ben Watson, how could he not be?

You my friend are a hater, all QB's wouldn't have those #'s with them, shit Peyton has had better talent year after year, and he's only broke 40 TD's once. You always hate on Brady, and now when he's lighting up the league, you act like he is suppose to, pathetic.

I don't hate on Brady, I'm not hating on him now. I think he and Peyton Manning are the 2 best QB's in the league, and both will be HOF'ers. You're getting me entirely wrong here. I'm not saying Brady is no good, I'm just saying the reason he is putting up monstrous stats this year as compared to years past is because he has great receivers to throw to for once.
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