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Massive 3-team Deal; Manny to LAD, Bay to BOS, others to PIT
Topic Started: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:37 pm (895 Views)
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yankee242B
Sun Aug 3, 2008 2:47 am
How is that a terrible comparison? Please, oh great stats-man, explain it to me.
Pretty simple:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/scomp.cgi?I=bayja01:Jason+Bay&st=career

Kearns career OPS+: 107
Bay career OPS: 131

The past 3 years-

Kearns- 64, 103, 112
Bay- 137, 98, 138

I don't need to explain 33-year old Geoff Jenkins, do I?

You're paying a bit too much attention to the comparable that B-R gives you. I've already objectively shown why Bay -----> Manny, and that took into account Bay's bad year. :nocomprende:

I guess everyone reaches a point low enough where they have to pull out a "stats nerd" phrase.
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I'm a lead farmer, motherf...

As far as the two prospects not having value to the Sox, so what? That's irrelevant. They have value to the other clubs, obviously.

Say I found a crappy old rock and was about to just chuck it into a ravine and Dewon, you said, "It's the most beautiful rock I've ever seen AND it completes my rock collection, I'll give you $100 for that rock."

Now, that rock holds absolutely zero value to me. I can take it or leave it. You'd have to agree that it would be pretty damn stupid to give you the rock for $10 or free even, wouldn't you? Since I know it has value to YOU (though it might be nothing to me) I should be able to get something from you for it. Hyltzn might agree with me that, while it's a pretty rock, it really has no value to him or I, but, to you, it's worth $100 or maybe more if I play it right.

That's the point. Trading Manny AND two prospects that the Dodgers must have valued to some degree and getting just Jason Bay is kind of a small return considering the value of what Boston gave up.
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I'm a lead farmer, motherf...

OK Hyltzn, you win. You're Billy Beane, Bill James and Theo all rolled into one. You know all about which players are better than others and who should be traded for whom. We should all just check with you whenever a team makes a move to find out what we should all think.
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yankee242B
Sun Aug 3, 2008 3:03 am
OK Hyltzn, you win. You're Billy Beane, Bill James and Theo all rolled into one. You know all about which players are better than others and who should be traded for whom. We should all just check with you whenever a team makes a move to find out what we should all think.
Alright. You'll probably be writing columns about my greatness once I get my first job as a GM. If I take over the Nats, I'll be sure to ban you from the team facilities.
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Hyltzn
Sun Aug 3, 2008 3:06 am
yankee242B
Sun Aug 3, 2008 3:03 am
OK Hyltzn, you win. You're Billy Beane, Bill James and Theo all rolled into one. You know all about which players are better than others and who should be traded for whom. We should all just check with you whenever a team makes a move to find out what we should all think.
Alright. You'll probably be writing columns about my greatness once I get my first job as a GM. If I take over the Nats, I'll be sure to ban you from the team facilities.
OK? I have no idea what you're talking about or why you'd ban me. That is pretty intelligent sounding.
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yankee242B
Sun Aug 3, 2008 3:08 am
Hyltzn
Sun Aug 3, 2008 3:06 am
yankee242B
Sun Aug 3, 2008 3:03 am
OK Hyltzn, you win. You're Billy Beane, Bill James and Theo all rolled into one. You know all about which players are better than others and who should be traded for whom. We should all just check with you whenever a team makes a move to find out what we should all think.
Alright. You'll probably be writing columns about my greatness once I get my first job as a GM. If I take over the Nats, I'll be sure to ban you from the team facilities.
OK? I have no idea what you're talking about or why you'd ban me. That is pretty intelligent sounding.
It was a joke. I was trying to ignore the jackass move you made there by making light of it.
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yankee242B
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Well apparently no one is allowed to make or have an opinion on this stuff and you're the final say. You have all the answers so we should just check with you and save ourselves a lot of time.
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yankee242B
Sun Aug 3, 2008 3:11 am
Well apparently no one is allowed to make or have an opinion on this stuff and you're the final say. You have all the answers so we should just check with you and save ourselves a lot of time.
When did I every imply that no one was allowed to disagree with me? You can, but I'm also allowed to disagree back and explain my rationale.
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jrmycmpfan
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Keep cool my babies

You do come off as a pompous ass sometimes when you debate, whether you mean to or not.

But it would be funny though if you were GM. "In my first move as Nationals GM, I ban Joe Conroy from the team facilities."
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Throw Your Diamonds In The Air`!

The dude's a dick, nothing new.

He knows his shit but who cares.
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