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| Massive 3-team Deal; Manny to LAD, Bay to BOS, others to PIT | |
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| Redfox | Sat Aug 2, 2008 2:18 am Post #61 |
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Then that means Carlos Lee is one of the best defensive OF in the game also ( Crawford Boxes ).. and we all know that just isn't true. Edited by Redfox, Sat Aug 2, 2008 2:19 am.
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| sportslover | Sat Aug 2, 2008 2:26 am Post #62 |
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UZR, which is park adjusted, has Manny as one of the worst defensive OF in the game... And how do you know Manny just plays the wall so much better than anyone out there, when you don't ever get to see any other player for more than 3 games? How do you know Manny plays the wall the best out of any Sox LF after Yaz? Have you watched every single game that every single Red Sox LF has played? Could you compare and contrast their weaknesses?
I agree that Bay is more valuable than Manny. Yes.
In other words, more than: b) 2 draft picks which they would get after next season, b)more than the Rays were offering, and C)more than the Braves were offering, d)more than what they would get for him during next season's deadline, when he'd be a rental. Edited by sportslover, Sat Aug 2, 2008 2:36 am.
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| yankee242B | Sat Aug 2, 2008 2:30 am Post #63 |
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Dewon subscribes to the Stephen A. Smith school of arguing. |
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| RTT | Sat Aug 2, 2008 2:33 am Post #64 |
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Throw Your Diamonds In The Air`!
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SHUT UP, I AM BLACK |
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| sportslover | Sat Aug 2, 2008 2:42 am Post #65 |
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Out of the past 4 seasons, Manny has finished last in the majors in RZR 3 out of those 4 seasons, and the only time he didn't....he was 3rd to last! http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=fielding&linesToDisplay=50&orderBy=zone_rating&direction=DESC&qual_filter=1&season_filter%5B%5D=2004&league_filter%5B%5D=1&pos_filter%5B%5D=7&Submit=Submit |
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| yankee242B | Sat Aug 2, 2008 11:57 am Post #66 |
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Source: Manny asked to stay with Sox Of all the Manny moments in Boston, the last ranks as one of the most confounding. Within an hour after Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein informed Manny Ramirez he had been traded to the Los Angeles Dodgers Thursday, Ramirez's agent, Scott Boras, called the Sox back, according to a source with direct knowledge of the negotiations. If the Sox dropped the option years on his contract - which they had agreed to do if they traded him - Boras said Ramirez would not be a problem the rest of the season. For the Sox, the source said, Ramirez's pledge of good behavior only served as a tacit admission that his disruptive conduct of the last couple of weeks had been calculated, and they had had good cause to suspect more was in the offing if they did not trade him. The Sox told him thanks but no thanks, what was done was done, and pack plenty of sunscreen. --Boston Globe And anyone that actually believes the Red Sox didn't get raped in this deal is either an idiot or delusional. |
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| yankee242B | Sat Aug 2, 2008 12:00 pm Post #67 |
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Red Sox fleeced in Manny deal? For years, the Red Sox have not been able to deal Manny Ramirez because they couldn't receive fair market value for him. And you know something? They didn't get it this time. But I'll give the Red Sox credit for this: They made an organizational determination -- the players, the manager, the front office, the owners -- that this Ramirez disturbance was different and far more volatile than the others and perhaps would linger. There's no denying that the Red Sox gave up far more than they hoped to make this deal happen with the Dodgers and Pirates. They gave up Brandon Moss, one of the most popular players among the brass and manager Terry Francona. They gave up Craig Hansen, one of their recent first-round draft picks, who has all the potential in the world, but somehow couldn't get it done. A year from now, we may all be saying: How on earth could they have given up on Manny and a good player like Moss and a good young reliever like Hansen for Jason Bay? But that just goes to show you how dire the situation with Ramirez had become before the Sox shipped him to the Dodgers at the trade deadline today. --Boston Globe |
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| yankee242B | Sat Aug 2, 2008 1:40 pm Post #68 |
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http://larrybrownsports.com/baseball/manny-ramirez-flashes-wrong-outs-dodger/ Yup, that's a top 3 defensive left fielder. |
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| sportslover | Sat Aug 2, 2008 1:55 pm Post #69 |
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Torre, "the highest paid manager in baseball":
That's why Kemps P/PA have been higher than Pierre's the past couple of years. |
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| sportslover | Sat Aug 2, 2008 8:38 pm Post #70 |
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And for those that have any doubts that Manny is a terrible fielder, here are his UZR numbers AT HOME:
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