I think Eric was going to buy WCW at the end but they told him could have everything except the TV space.
yeah, I mean he gave up too easy
FX would've given him a deal I bet
He was trying to get TV rights when Vince swooped in. I heard Eric was damn close to a deal too.
As for CS, The Rock, SCSA, Undertaker and DX weren't what killed WCW. Bad business decisions, storylines, and the lack of a supporting AOL-Time Warner was.
Bish backed out, which put wCw up for liquidation, and WWF had first rights to purchase after that.
If Bish wouldn't have given up, wCw would still be around
But the main killer of wCw was Jamie Kellner, she hated wrestling, and when she became head of Turner programing, cancelled wcw.
As for CS, The Rock, SCSA, Undertaker and DX weren't what killed WCW. Bad business decisions, storylines, and the lack of a supporting AOL-Time Warner was.
The Downfall of WCW began when Eric was told to backoff and they brought in Vince Russo and company. Russo screwed up WCW like he is doing now with TNA. Like Flair said in the video.."Russo, a fraud a clown comes in here and tries to convince me that he created DX, Undertaker, Austin, Rock, I just turned my back and laughed"
Thats where things really went downhill. By the time they called in Eric, his reply was that he couldnt fix it, so let him buy it! Ted wanted to give him everything but the TV. He could have the Ring, Rights, but no TV
As for CS, The Rock, SCSA, Undertaker and DX weren't what killed WCW. Bad business decisions, storylines, and the lack of a supporting AOL-Time Warner was.
The Downfall of WCW began when Eric was told to backoff and they brought in Vince Russo and company. Russo screwed up WCW like he is doing now with TNA. Like Flair said in the video.."Russo, a fraud a clown comes in here and tries to convince me that he created DX, Undertaker, Austin, Rock, I just turned my back and laughed"
Thats where things really went downhill. By the time they called in Eric, his reply was that he couldnt fix it, so let him buy it! Ted wanted to give him everything but the TV. He could have the Ring, Rights, but no TV
That's basically what I said.
I find it funny how they bring back Eric to fix the problems Russo made, yet they wouldn't fire Russo, and wouldn't let Eric do what made WCW successful in the first place. WTG AOL-Time Warner.
As for CS, The Rock, SCSA, Undertaker and DX weren't what killed WCW. Bad business decisions, storylines, and the lack of a supporting AOL-Time Warner was.
The Downfall of WCW began when Eric was told to backoff and they brought in Vince Russo and company. Russo screwed up WCW like he is doing now with TNA. Like Flair said in the video.."Russo, a fraud a clown comes in here and tries to convince me that he created DX, Undertaker, Austin, Rock, I just turned my back and laughed"
Thats where things really went downhill. By the time they called in Eric, his reply was that he couldnt fix it, so let him buy it! Ted wanted to give him everything but the TV. He could have the Ring, Rights, but no TV
Well I mean, wCw was already going down before Russo came in
I mean, what were they gonna do next, nWo Purple?
When Russo was rolling, he had good shows. But he was suspended several time and when he left, changes and changes happened. And the big contracts that were promised to people.....wCw was a sinking ship, Russo jumped on too late
^^^And when Russo did that, he couldn't have fucked up any more.
That was just the boiling point of wCw
Tensions were always high, nothing could get done....
Russo was trying to push wCw in a new direction, Hulk Hogan comes in and says give me the belt now, because of a Bisch contract.....
Yes Russo couldve done things better, but what else could he of done.
David Arquette as champ, would him not being champ of made wCw more money, or made WWF less entertaining...no
Russo did better working under Vince.
Russo's downfall in wCw is that he didnt have a Stone Cold to build around. In WWF he started from scratch, pushed the edge, it was cool, in wCw WWF already pushed the edge and was entertaining, so he it wasnt new when he did it.
In the end, wCw was doomed by all parties, Hogan, Nash as booker, russo, Bischoff, AOL Time warner, big contracts, never pushing the youngins until they were gone,poor booking of Goldberg after the title,and being property rather than a company. WCW only made 2 stars during its time, DDP and Goldberg. They relied on recycling the old guys to be new characters, but once they were recycled they had nothing left to give that was new and exciting. WCW lost 17 million dollars in 2000. But all in all it ended the right way, Sting and Flair, and thats the way it should've been.
^^^And when Russo did that, he couldn't have fucked up any more.
That was just the boiling point of wCw
Tensions were always high, nothing could get done....
Russo was trying to push wCw in a new direction, Hulk Hogan comes in and says give me the belt now, because of a Bisch contract.....
Yes Russo couldve done things better, but what else could he of done.
David Arquette as champ, would him not being champ of made wCw more money, or made WWF less entertaining...no
Russo did better working under Vince.
Russo's downfall in wCw is that he didnt have a Stone Cold to build around. In WWF he started from scratch, pushed the edge, it was cool, in wCw WWF already pushed the edge and was entertaining, so he it wasnt new when he did it.
In the end, wCw was doomed by all parties, Hogan, Nash as booker, russo, Bischoff, AOL Time warner, big contracts, never pushing the youngins until they were gone,poor booking of Goldberg after the title,and being property rather than a company. WCW only made 2 stars during its time, DDP and Goldberg. They relied on recycling the old guys to be new characters, but once they were recycled they had nothing left to give that was new and exciting. WCW lost 17 million dollars in 2000. But all in all it ended the right way, Sting and Flair, and thats the way it should've been.
But the thing is, Russo kept screwing up things that would've benefitted the company. For instance, when Bischoff and Russo were both in WCW, Bischoff was trying to do things that would help fix some of the problems WCW was having TV wise. With that first clip, when Russo did that, he was screwing up a storyline that would've brought some value back to the world title.
It didn't help that Bischoff gave out some down right ridiculous contracts. It didn't help that Nash was a terrible booker. Hogan didn't help. Not pushing some of your younger guys to their potential didn't help. WCW was royally screwed, but I've always felt that it wasn't yet a doomed ship. With the right formula, it could've gotten back on it's feet, but Russo and AOL-Time Warner screwed it.
BTW if you want more proof that Russo fucking sucks, watch TNA, before and after Russo held any real power.
^^^And when Russo did that, he couldn't have fucked up any more.
That was just the boiling point of wCw
Tensions were always high, nothing could get done....
Russo was trying to push wCw in a new direction, Hulk Hogan comes in and says give me the belt now, because of a Bisch contract.....
Yes Russo couldve done things better, but what else could he of done.
David Arquette as champ, would him not being champ of made wCw more money, or made WWF less entertaining...no
Russo did better working under Vince.
Russo's downfall in wCw is that he didnt have a Stone Cold to build around. In WWF he started from scratch, pushed the edge, it was cool, in wCw WWF already pushed the edge and was entertaining, so he it wasnt new when he did it.
In the end, wCw was doomed by all parties, Hogan, Nash as booker, russo, Bischoff, AOL Time warner, big contracts, never pushing the youngins until they were gone,poor booking of Goldberg after the title,and being property rather than a company. WCW only made 2 stars during its time, DDP and Goldberg. They relied on recycling the old guys to be new characters, but once they were recycled they had nothing left to give that was new and exciting. WCW lost 17 million dollars in 2000. But all in all it ended the right way, Sting and Flair, and thats the way it should've been.
But the thing is, Russo kept screwing up things that would've benefitted the company. For instance, when Bischoff and Russo were both in WCW, Bischoff was trying to do things that would help fix some of the problems WCW was having TV wise. With that first clip, when Russo did that, he was screwing up a storyline that would've brought some value back to the world title.
It didn't help that Bischoff gave out some down right ridiculous contracts. It didn't help that Nash was a terrible booker. Hogan didn't help. Not pushing some of your younger guys to their potential didn't help. WCW was royally screwed, but I've always felt that it wasn't yet a doomed ship. With the right formula, it could've gotten back on it's feet, but Russo and AOL-Time Warner screwed it.
BTW if you want more proof that Russo fucking sucks, watch TNA, before and after Russo held any real power.
Oh I know TNA sucks, I was the biggest TNA fan...and now I quit qatching because its a disgrace.
I mean, me and you will prob always disagree on the Bash at the Beach thing, because thats one of my favorite moments in wrestling history.
Russo was excellent in WWF, was set in stone to fail in wCw, and has fucked up TNA
wCw crashed from when Hart got hurt, to when Bischoff and Russo were both sent out in the later part of 2000.
Russo was set to fail because of one reason, he came in to an old mans company, and tried to take the house down and build it with new stars. And without the Radicalz, and Jericho, and all the new talent that was being sent in was the muscle pumped WCW power plant trainees, not much to work with. And the audience he wanted was already watching his finished WWF creation, along with genious Vince McMahon promoting it and writing it.
Russo was sent to change the product, he did the best he could with little. He had no supervision and was given too much power, but like wCw always did they offered too much, and in the end, every thing was taken from wCw
^^^And when Russo did that, he couldn't have fucked up any more.
That was just the boiling point of wCw
Tensions were always high, nothing could get done....
Russo was trying to push wCw in a new direction, Hulk Hogan comes in and says give me the belt now, because of a Bisch contract.....
Yes Russo couldve done things better, but what else could he of done.
David Arquette as champ, would him not being champ of made wCw more money, or made WWF less entertaining...no
Russo did better working under Vince.
Russo's downfall in wCw is that he didnt have a Stone Cold to build around. In WWF he started from scratch, pushed the edge, it was cool, in wCw WWF already pushed the edge and was entertaining, so he it wasnt new when he did it.
In the end, wCw was doomed by all parties, Hogan, Nash as booker, russo, Bischoff, AOL Time warner, big contracts, never pushing the youngins until they were gone,poor booking of Goldberg after the title,and being property rather than a company. WCW only made 2 stars during its time, DDP and Goldberg. They relied on recycling the old guys to be new characters, but once they were recycled they had nothing left to give that was new and exciting. WCW lost 17 million dollars in 2000. But all in all it ended the right way, Sting and Flair, and thats the way it should've been.
But the thing is, Russo kept screwing up things that would've benefitted the company. For instance, when Bischoff and Russo were both in WCW, Bischoff was trying to do things that would help fix some of the problems WCW was having TV wise. With that first clip, when Russo did that, he was screwing up a storyline that would've brought some value back to the world title.
It didn't help that Bischoff gave out some down right ridiculous contracts. It didn't help that Nash was a terrible booker. Hogan didn't help. Not pushing some of your younger guys to their potential didn't help. WCW was royally screwed, but I've always felt that it wasn't yet a doomed ship. With the right formula, it could've gotten back on it's feet, but Russo and AOL-Time Warner screwed it.
BTW if you want more proof that Russo fucking sucks, watch TNA, before and after Russo held any real power.
Oh I know TNA sucks, I was the biggest TNA fan...and now I quit qatching because its a disgrace.
I mean, me and you will prob always disagree on the Bash at the Beach thing, because thats one of my favorite moments in wrestling history.
Russo was excellent in WWF, was set in stone to fail in wCw, and has fucked up TNA
wCw crashed from when Hart got hurt, to when Bischoff and Russo were both sent out in the later part of 2000.
Russo was set to fail because of one reason, he came in to an old mans company, and tried to take the house down and build it with new stars. And without the Radicalz, and Jericho, and all the new talent that was being sent in was the muscle pumped WCW power plant trainees, not much to work with. And the audience he wanted was already watching his finished WWF creation, along with genious Vince McMahon promoting it and writing it.
Russo was sent to change the product, he did the best he could with little. He had no supervision and was given too much power, but like wCw always did they offered too much, and in the end, every thing was taken from wCw
The thing is though, that a lot of people you ask who were working with the WWE around the time the Attitude era was thought up, will laugh at the notion of Russo having any real significance in that.
I will agree with you with the whole, he didn't have a helluva lot to work with thing though. To prove this, look at when Bischoff came back and the best thing he could really do with AOL Time Warner breathing down his neck was bring in Kiss to play a one day concert.
There's a lot of people to blame for the demise of WCW, but I ultimately place most of the blame on AOL-Time Warner, followed by Russo.
As for the Bash at the Beach incident, I think it's one of the most infamous moments in wrestling. I just feel that Russo was fucking everything up by having Jarret lay down, and having the Jarret-Booker T match afterwards. He could've handled that much, much better. Funny thing though is that when Bischoff, who left early, heard about what Russo did, was PISSED. Lol.
^^^And when Russo did that, he couldn't have fucked up any more.
That was just the boiling point of wCw
Tensions were always high, nothing could get done....
Russo was trying to push wCw in a new direction, Hulk Hogan comes in and says give me the belt now, because of a Bisch contract.....
Yes Russo couldve done things better, but what else could he of done.
David Arquette as champ, would him not being champ of made wCw more money, or made WWF less entertaining...no
Russo did better working under Vince.
Russo's downfall in wCw is that he didnt have a Stone Cold to build around. In WWF he started from scratch, pushed the edge, it was cool, in wCw WWF already pushed the edge and was entertaining, so he it wasnt new when he did it.
In the end, wCw was doomed by all parties, Hogan, Nash as booker, russo, Bischoff, AOL Time warner, big contracts, never pushing the youngins until they were gone,poor booking of Goldberg after the title,and being property rather than a company. WCW only made 2 stars during its time, DDP and Goldberg. They relied on recycling the old guys to be new characters, but once they were recycled they had nothing left to give that was new and exciting. WCW lost 17 million dollars in 2000. But all in all it ended the right way, Sting and Flair, and thats the way it should've been.
But the thing is, Russo kept screwing up things that would've benefitted the company. For instance, when Bischoff and Russo were both in WCW, Bischoff was trying to do things that would help fix some of the problems WCW was having TV wise. With that first clip, when Russo did that, he was screwing up a storyline that would've brought some value back to the world title.
It didn't help that Bischoff gave out some down right ridiculous contracts. It didn't help that Nash was a terrible booker. Hogan didn't help. Not pushing some of your younger guys to their potential didn't help. WCW was royally screwed, but I've always felt that it wasn't yet a doomed ship. With the right formula, it could've gotten back on it's feet, but Russo and AOL-Time Warner screwed it.
BTW if you want more proof that Russo fucking sucks, watch TNA, before and after Russo held any real power.
Oh I know TNA sucks, I was the biggest TNA fan...and now I quit qatching because its a disgrace.
I mean, me and you will prob always disagree on the Bash at the Beach thing, because thats one of my favorite moments in wrestling history.
Russo was excellent in WWF, was set in stone to fail in wCw, and has fucked up TNA
wCw crashed from when Hart got hurt, to when Bischoff and Russo were both sent out in the later part of 2000.
Russo was set to fail because of one reason, he came in to an old mans company, and tried to take the house down and build it with new stars. And without the Radicalz, and Jericho, and all the new talent that was being sent in was the muscle pumped WCW power plant trainees, not much to work with. And the audience he wanted was already watching his finished WWF creation, along with genious Vince McMahon promoting it and writing it.
Russo was sent to change the product, he did the best he could with little. He had no supervision and was given too much power, but like wCw always did they offered too much, and in the end, every thing was taken from wCw
The thing is though, that a lot of people you ask who were working with the WWE around the time the Attitude era was thought up, will laugh at the notion of Russo having any real significance in that.
I will agree with you with the whole, he didn't have a helluva lot to work with thing though. To prove this, look at when Bischoff came back and the best thing he could really do with AOL Time Warner breathing down his neck was bring in Kiss to play a one day concert.
There's a lot of people to blame for the demise of WCW, but I ultimately place most of the blame on AOL-Time Warner, followed by Russo.
As for the Bash at the Beach incident, I think it's one of the most infamous moments in wrestling. I just feel that Russo was fucking everything up by having Jarret lay down, and having the Jarret-Booker T match afterwards. He could've handled that much, much better. Funny thing though is that when Bischoff, who left early, heard about what Russo did, was PISSED. Lol.
Yeah, but what I like most about that was that at the time, wrestling being real had just ended for me and it was more and more evident that it was fake.
but that moment is my favorite now because it sent a message to Hogan that wrestling didnt need him anymore. WWF functioned just fine without him.
but what I've read from Bisch, Eric was sooo stressed and wore out from wCw, that he couldnt do it. He knew it was in the tanks.
But the real killer of wCw??? WWF was......
WWF and wCw were competing for the same audience at the same time...It was evident only one could win, wCw almost put WWF down, but WWF turned the tables, then the final nail in the coffin was put in.
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