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Strange Play
Topic Started: Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:30 pm (81 Views)
WU Beachbum
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Q, I think he was protesting the runner on 3rd left to quick.
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JoeCoolMan24
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I got Alicia Sacramone

That's pretty interesting. Dumb play by Lopez of course.

I wonder if this has ever happened before in the MLB.
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Im still confused. How does the run count if Either didn't tag up? If he goes back to the bag, tags up, and Lopez tags out Pierre after the runner crosses the plate then I see awarding the run to the Dodgers. But the way I am reading it Either didn't tag up, am I correct?
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Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:42 pm
Im still confused. How does the run count if Either didn't tag up? If he goes back to the bag, tags up, and Lopez tags out Pierre after the runner crosses the plate then I see awarding the run to the Dodgers. But the way I am reading it Either didn't tag up, am I correct?
When it comes to tagging up, there is no ruling on it until the fielding team appeals the play. No matter how early Ethier left the bag, he is safe as long as he is not tagged out, and as long as no appeal is made.

The Umpire can not call a guy out for leaving early by himself, he can only respond to an appeal. That is why you will commonly see an umpire stand right next to the bag, starring at, waiting for the team to appeal. Once they do, he immediately rings him up. He wanted to earlier, but couldn't, he had to wait for an appeal.

When the D-Backs left the field, the gave up their right to an appeal.
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Just making sure I am on the same page. So if the runner had tagged properly, and if FeLo did step on the base after the runner crossed home, the run still would count.
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Stepping the base makes it a force out which means the run wouldn't count I believe.
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Someone just said you can only force on baserunners advancing forward. :confused:
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I got Alicia Sacramone

WU Beachbum
Mon Apr 13, 2009 9:46 pm
Stepping the base makes it a force out which means the run wouldn't count I believe.
Correct, a force out makes every run in that play meaningless. It would be the same as a pop fly that is caught after a runner touches home.

The only way a runner can be out for leaving a base too early would be if the team went to the back he came from and stepped on it. Since the Dbacks left the field before doing this, the umpires do not have to intervene, thus it is a run.
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My Allah, you brothers are worst than the slow olympics.

Beachbrotha: Stepping the base makes it a force out which means the run wouldn't count I believe.

No.

D-bag fan: Someone just said you can only force on baserunners advancing forward. :confused:

Yes, the run would still count.

Strait from da book:

A FORCE PLAY is a play in which a runner legally loses his right to occupy a base by reason of the batter becoming a runner.
Rule 2.00 (Force Play) Comment: Confusion regarding this play is removed by remembering that frequently the “force” situation is removed during the play. Example: Man on first, one out, ball hit sharply to first baseman who touches the bag and batter-runner is out. The force is removed at that moment and runner advancing to second must be tagged. If there had been a runner on third or second, and either of these runners scored before the tag-out at second, the run counts. Had the first baseman thrown to second and the ball then had been returned to first, the play at second was a force out, making two outs, and the return throw to first ahead of the runner would have made three outs. In that case, no run would score.
Example: Not a force out. One out. Runner on first and third. Batter flies out. Two out. Runner on third tags up and scores. Runner on first tries to retouch before throw from fielder reaches first baseman, but does not get back in time and is out. Three outs. If, in umpire’s judgment, the runner from third touched home before the ball was held at first base, the run counts.
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WU Beachbum
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No, JoeCoolMan is right. You compared us to the slow Olympics, then spelled 3 words wrong. :rotfl:
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