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| Considerate Party; Promoting niceness in government | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 23 2012, 04:04 AM (1,710 Views) | |
| larsland | Jun 23 2012, 04:04 AM Post #1 |
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Welcome to the main thread of the considerate party! Our party is for all nations that intend to show true care for their people, their environment and their neighbours. We are happy to work with other parties if their policies align with ours. MOTTO: Treat others as you would like to be treated POLICIES:
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There is no formal application process to join the Considerate Party, one simply needs to indicate a willingness to abide by the basic law of being nice. In addition, members of other parties may not be members of the Considerate Party concurrently. We're open to all suggestions and hope to work things out together by mutual assent through discussion. If we could keep most discussion to this thread, that would be better than having it in secret. If you need access to our private folder, PM me (larsland) for the password. Current members are JED, Fisch and Larsland. Edited by larsland, Dec 7 2012, 11:06 PM.
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| Majestas | Jun 24 2012, 03:03 PM Post #2 |
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Amazing Councilman (and the Grandmaster of Epic Awesomeness Poster)
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I like it. I would consider joining, however, there is one thing that I do not agree with that you said. I strongly believe in the VCD. Also, you speak of supporting nations that need it, however, with there being no VCD, that would be a problem. If a country were to be attacked, but had almost no military power, they would need support from Vaalbara. No VCD makes that difficult, which is contradictory to me. How would you go about slving this sort of situation? |
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| Majestas | Jun 24 2012, 03:09 PM Post #3 |
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Give me a minute. I am trying to create a folder for you like the other parties and move this topic into it. |
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| Majestas | Jun 24 2012, 03:22 PM Post #4 |
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Alright, someone else will have to move this topic because I looked up how to do it and the ways they describe says that I have to use a mod thing on the bottom of the page that I don't have. Sorry. |
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| Eleutheria | Jun 24 2012, 03:41 PM Post #5 |
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"Supporting amendments to the constitution for greater human rights standards (free religion, speech etc) that all citizens of Vaalbara must follow; enforcement of these through economic trade sanctions" (that means economic and political regulation of individual nations-its a game, let people play) "Supporting nations in Vaalbara with limited resources establish enterprise and get their citizens a good standard of living" (that means taxation and regulation of individual nations) "Introducing a 0.1% tax on the value of their GDP for all citizens of Vaalbara to pay for Vaalbara government services and prevent our region from falling into debt if we ever have a international financial crisis" (Greece is only 1% of Europe's GDP, see what trouble it has caused? And a taxation of any kind by the regional government is abhorent in my opinion) Edited by Eleutheria, Jun 24 2012, 03:42 PM.
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| Majestas | Jun 24 2012, 07:54 PM Post #6 |
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I actually think that the tax could be quite useful. It is one tenth of a percent, which won't do much harm to any nation and it will give Vaalbara some funds to actually start building the capitol territory and do that sort of thing. |
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| larsland | Jun 24 2012, 09:00 PM Post #7 |
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In any situation where one power is attacked by another, my hope is that other nations will come to that nation's aid anyway, out of kindness towards that nation, and that nations would be more cautious about attacking anyway, due to the international condemnation and sanctions that may result. However, if you strongly still fell the VCD is important Majestas, then I'll amend the policy. Eleutheria, discussing the regulation of individual nations is a part of the platform, but it's something to be debated and challenged like WA resolutions. Its not really stopping people playing - Vaalbara has little control over people's playing at the end of the day - at best it provides opportunities for RP and more interesting elections. The whole Greece thing is an important discussion but one, I'm afraid, for another thread. |
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| coppingham | Jun 24 2012, 09:58 PM Post #8 |
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Leader of the Epicurean Party
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You should definitely not abolish the VDC...It is some nations only hope in roleplays...like New Coppingham. |
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| larsland | Jun 25 2012, 12:04 AM Post #9 |
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Policy revised to "Help countries reduce reliance on VDC". Better? |
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| Eleutheria | Jun 26 2012, 03:48 PM Post #10 |
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So you are revising policies before you even begin, that sounds like a flip-flopper politician. In the words of Jefferson "In matters of style swim like the flow, in matters of principle stand like a rock.", abolishing the VDC is a good radical policy with some justification, I personally disagree, but you need some dynamism. stick with it and don't be all wishy washy just because you have got criticism for a policy. |
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| Majestas | Jun 26 2012, 10:06 PM Post #11 |
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Amazing Councilman (and the Grandmaster of Epic Awesomeness Poster)
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I personally would think that you would rather people be more dependent on the VCD and less on having their own army to support them. With the VCD to rely on, it is a back-up thing in case war is inevitable. Having your own army would make you far more likely to go into war since you feel that you are more able. Just a thought there. Our gym teacher was teaching us lacrosse (worst sport ever) and she said that the women's game is a lot less violent and they think part of that is because they have less padding. Te men's game has more padding, so people feel more invincible and willing to get into a fight. It is the same basic principle. That is my personally view on that point. What do you think? |
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| coppingham | Jun 26 2012, 11:19 PM Post #12 |
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I agree with Majestas. That's a good point. |
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| Majestas | Jun 27 2012, 01:03 AM Post #13 |
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Amazing Councilman (and the Grandmaster of Epic Awesomeness Poster)
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Thank you. I am just being logical. I still like your premise, just in my mind, things don't add up. |
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| larsland | Jun 27 2012, 01:07 AM Post #14 |
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Eleutheria, this is not the Larsland party. As I see it, so long as nations are working towards the basic principle of compassion, their ideas are consistent with this party. The policy was originally designed to work towards fewer people controlling fewer weapons, but since the VDC is indexed to the size of other nation's armies anyway, framing the policy in this sense works just as well to that end - even if it isn't in the manner in which Larsland would prefer. Ultimately, both are roads towards a smaller VDC and a less dangerous Vaalbara. Everyone, the policy has been amended again because of the resolution by Coppingham and Majestas. |
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| Majestas | Jun 27 2012, 01:19 AM Post #15 |
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Amazing Councilman (and the Grandmaster of Epic Awesomeness Poster)
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Thank you. Now that we have that settled, I would like to say that I am in full agreement with your party. I was opposed to the violence, and because of that, at one point I had no military. Now I have gotten some, but I think my small one is enough. I am honesty considering changing parties because of how much I support yours. Let me see if I can set up a password protected part of your party like the truiminitve has. |
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