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| HR 50 The No Paychecks for Incompetent Leaders Act | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: 9 Jun 2013, 10:02 PM (215 Views) | |
| Heather Holson | 9 Jun 2013, 10:02 PM Post #1 |
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48 hours of debate
Edited by Heather Holson, 11 Jun 2013, 06:51 PM.
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| Ambrose Griffith | 9 Jun 2013, 10:40 PM Post #2 |
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Madame Speaker, This proposal is nothing more than a populist politically-motivated sabre-rattle. It is an overly simplistic look at a rather complicated budget procedure which involved several parties, not just elected representatives, and, on occasion, can be stalled by any part of that process, not simply what the bill's author described as incompetent leadership. I yield. |
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| Terrus | 9 Jun 2013, 10:43 PM Post #3 |
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Madame Speaker. I rise in opposition to this legislation for several reasons. First, I fail to see the purpose of this bill, which is unlikely to change anything here in Washington since most members of Congress can easily survive without pay. Second, I fail to see why we should make it harder for individuals that are not wealthy to serve in Congress by making it so that they cannot be certain they will be compensated regularly. Third, I fail to see why we would encourage corruption by reducing congressional pay. Fourth, I fail to see why we would hold Congress but not the President accountable for government shutdowns. I recognize that many in this chamber will champion this legislation merely to seem "hard on politicians," and so hoping for its defeat is non-sensical. With that in mind, I rise to offer three amendments, each of which I think could actually address this issue. Amendment #1. Inclusion of President. If nothing else, I ask the members of this assembly to join me in demanding that the President be held responsible in addition to the Congress. With this in mind, I move to amend such that Section 3 reads as follows: "Compensation for the President of the United States and the members of the Congress of the United States shall be suspended during any shutdown of the federal government." Amendment #2 Eliminating Obstacles to Budget Enactment. Cutting off pay for the members of Congress is unlikely to impact the budgetary debate if the vast majority of the members of Congress prefer the enactment of the budget, but cannot bring it about for procedural reasons. With that in mind, I move to amend this act such that it reads as indicated below, noting that I wish for my first amendment to be withdrawn if this amendment passes.
I yield. |
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| Landry | 10 Jun 2013, 12:19 AM Post #4 |
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Winter is Coming to the Red States
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Madam Speaker, I second the amendments offered by my dear friend from Michigan, and I yield. |
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| Heather Holson | 10 Jun 2013, 12:21 AM Post #5 |
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The motion to amend is recognized and properly seconded. 24 hours for voting. |
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| Landry | 10 Jun 2013, 12:21 AM Post #6 |
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Winter is Coming to the Red States
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Yea on both |
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| Nick | 10 Jun 2013, 12:22 AM Post #7 |
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Aye on Both. |
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| JMJ | 10 Jun 2013, 12:30 AM Post #8 |
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Aye on both |
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| tal | 10 Jun 2013, 12:33 AM Post #9 |
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Old Man In The Mountain
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Aye on both. |
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| Ambrose Griffith | 10 Jun 2013, 12:33 AM Post #10 |
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Aye on both |
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| Terrus | 10 Jun 2013, 12:42 AM Post #11 |
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Present on first. Yea on second. |
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| Brewer | 10 Jun 2013, 08:10 AM Post #12 |
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The GOP's Favorite Leech
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Aye on both. |
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| David Thompson | 10 Jun 2013, 10:16 AM Post #13 |
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Aye on both |
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| peter | 10 Jun 2013, 12:19 PM Post #14 |
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Lucas for President: Take Back America!
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Aye on 1 Nay on 2 |
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| Vissering | 10 Jun 2013, 01:22 PM Post #15 |
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I'm radioactive.
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Aye on both. |
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| Patrick Callaghan | 10 Jun 2013, 02:31 PM Post #16 |
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New England Republican >:D
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Aye on both |
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| FairBol | 10 Jun 2013, 02:42 PM Post #17 |
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American Patriot, & DJ
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Aye on Terrus 1 Nay on Terrus 2 |
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| Daniel Hernandez | 10 Jun 2013, 02:58 PM Post #18 |
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Wielder of the Gavel
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Rick Thomas Aye on Terrus 1 Nay on Terrus 2 |
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| Brenninger | 10 Jun 2013, 03:23 PM Post #19 |
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#Swaggy
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Aye on both |
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| TheJohnson | 10 Jun 2013, 03:24 PM Post #20 |
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Point of Order That amendment is clearly non-germane as it changes the whole meaning and text of the bill presented for debate. |
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