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| Dual cab utes; Not Navaras or Hiluxs | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 18 2013, 07:33 PM (286 Views) | |
| Tones | Jul 18 2013, 07:33 PM Post #1 |
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Getting near the time for me to upgrade the old GQ Wagon and am thinking of a dual cab ute. Don't want a Hilux due to the low towing capacity or a Navaras due to the fact that there is a million of em on the road and half that amount are driven by mates of mine. I'm personally thinking of a Isuzu D Max or Ford Ranger. Gotta be a diesel What's ya thought and opinions or other options. I've heard good reports on both the above mentioned but need more convincing either way, good or bad. |
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| Courtz | Jul 18 2013, 08:52 PM Post #2 |
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Tones, Ive done alot of reading into the same predicament. I have been looking between the ranger, amarok, colarado and isuzu. As much as im a holden man, you cant go wrong with the Ranger. Top spec XLT has all the fruit, hill decent, center diff locks etc... the lower XLS has a few less but good value. One of the highest towing and tray capacity loads, and space..... Plenty of it. Im 6 1/2 ft and with the seats in driving position in front, i have jumped into the back and still have comfortable legspace. Plenty of room for a full 3 adults in the back. Another bonus compared to the isuzu is a quieter engine. Not as clicky like a typical diesel. But the downside is length. A full 500mm longer than a prado, patrol, LCruiser, so if u have an average size lockup garage, it will be a tight squeeze. But anyway, its your money in the end, decide in what you want, compare and decide. Have fun...... Courtz |
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| Fish | Jul 19 2013, 12:18 AM Post #3 |
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The ranger has transfer case issues though its a a simple fix. just change the relay.. |
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| Spence | Jul 19 2013, 07:07 AM Post #4 |
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Colorado's are meant to be good, lefty should be able to provide feedback too. Isuzu's would be the next best thing to a toyota in terms of reliability/quality. They'd be my choices anyhow. The rangers onsite here at work have had a few faults with electrical wiring and other issues, we've had to inspect our whole fleets and had recalls.....no surprise really with respect to ford builds in my own biased opinion. If you PM me an email, i'll send you the details from the report from one fault i'm aware of. Off topic, but food for thought.... Spoiler: click to toggle
Edited by Spence, Jul 19 2013, 09:28 AM.
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| TravGrundy | Jul 19 2013, 09:56 AM Post #5 |
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New mazda bt50 |
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| eziliving | Jul 19 2013, 10:06 AM Post #6 |
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stay away from the amroks as i reckon they are the most gutless pieces of craps out. we were using them at Onslow and they would stall as you were idling a round a corner in second gear. the autos might be a bit better but a 2.2ltr motor is still a small motor even though it has the twin turbos. the colorados are meant to be good and BHP are changing out their hiluxs to them over the next year or so which is probably more to the fact to the safety rating rather than performance. my old man has a D-max for the last few years and has had no issues. he has done the nullabor trip a few times not towing anything though. |
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| Spence | Jul 19 2013, 01:13 PM Post #7 |
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BHP are changing out the hiluxes to the Ford Rangers ezi, not colorados. This is due to Ancap safety ratings purely. There have been issues with the rangers since doing so.
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| Lefty | Jul 19 2013, 05:47 PM Post #8 |
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The Colorado I have is the wagon not the dual cad but very much the same. Pros = Heap of room for the driver and a ton of grunt for a 2.8Ltr Cons = Cheapish interior finish and rear seats very average (but still typical of most Duals). Also had some warranty issue with some sensors but all sorted hopefully. Biggest con is the noise. Very tractorish. I would take one over a DMax though. More grunt and better fuel for very much the same car. Ranger Vs Dmax would come down to driver comfort. Hated the Ranger for comfort as a bigger bloke. |
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| Tones | Jul 19 2013, 06:29 PM Post #9 |
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Wahoo
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I'm a short ass Lefty |
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| Tones | Jul 19 2013, 06:30 PM Post #10 |
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The shape and interior finish of the Navara also leave a bit to be desired. Still brickish and no frills |
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| splashback | Jul 19 2013, 08:50 PM Post #11 |
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We got rangers at work. The seats suck big time. Hard as bricks. Dmax 4wd action ute of the year. Although the do have one as a long term test.... I have spoken to someone who has done 100,000 in a dmax for work and said its no frills but does everything and no issues at all. You should still consider a Nissan but mate..... yes they are like clits but that's for a reason. |
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| Lefty | Jul 19 2013, 09:19 PM Post #12 |
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Should be fine then Tones. Ranger has a much lower seat so legs are more forward than the Colorado. If you don't mind it sounding like a tractor then Colorado. If you want something that sound more car like the Ranger. Otherwise pretty much same sh*t different coloured bucket. |
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| Fish | Jul 19 2013, 09:44 PM Post #13 |
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If going the nissan do stay away fromt he 6 speed for towing. The burn clutches out to easily. The man peeve i had with the ranger was the fuel cut on back off to drop emisson and improve economy. a bit nerve racking but you get use to it. The dmax is a 5spd with its 3.0l turbo diesel but i remember the rodeo i drove against the narvara - I was pretty sure the narvara was just rebadged and the rodeo had it over it in every thing! (this was back in 2005 though). Better box, better engine and interior too. So i am a little biased here.... |
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| eziliving | Jul 21 2013, 04:14 AM Post #14 |
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Are you buying new tones?? If so maybe keep a look out for a decent second hand cruiser cruiser or Nissan if you don't really need the ute. Unless you are writing it off on tax. For the same money you are paying for a new dual cab you should be able to get something decent second hand and even chop the back off. That costs about $7k to do that. |
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| Tones | Jul 28 2013, 10:39 AM Post #15 |
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Plan scrapped, gonna keep the old Ford Patrol after all. Do her up a bit and hang on to her. Cheers for all ya input though fellas. |
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| James cohen | Jul 28 2013, 01:37 PM Post #16 |
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plus they have the turning ark of a 747, ive got n 05 crewman that ive had from new. best car ive ever owned. |
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| spray | Jul 28 2013, 02:13 PM Post #17 |
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Triton...... Have just updated my work fleet and I went with Tritons Pros- price,5 star safety, capped price servicing, quite at hwy speeds, big back seat in d/c Cons- small fuel tank, like to rev, overactive traction control Looked at hilux (high prices), Ranger (up to 5month wait for one), DMax (very loud at hwy speeds, rough riding empty) Have had naravas as the last lot of utes and my wife has a pathfinder. We did over 300 000kms in the nav's mostly offroad and they stood up to all manner of crap. The pathfinder has 170kms on it never had anything other than basic servicing, so Nissan dose build them well. Maybe why there are so many on the road. Did look at navara's but felt like a change cheers spray |
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| monksie | Jul 29 2013, 02:28 PM Post #18 |
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i just brought a 2010 Triton diesel auto gl-r triton. 55,000kms. hope it's as good as was my old hilux. |
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