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Gays targeting Mozilla Firefox
Topic Started: Apr 1 2014, 12:08 PM (592 Views)
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This month, users of OkCupid are discovering that the next company up for destruction by gay rights groups appears to be the Internet browser Firefox, as visitors to the dating website who use the popular web browser get a warning message informing them that the CEO of the browser company is "an opponent of equal rights for gay couples."
At the end of March, Brendan Eich was appointed as the new CEO of Mozilla, the tech company that made the Firefox web browser. Eich was a logical choice. As the creator of Javascript--a program that serves as an important part of many web browsers--he was also the co-founder of Mozilla.

But gay activists are unhappy with the choice. When Eich was the company's chief technology officer, he donated $1,000 to the 2008 campaign for California's Prop 8, the California Marriage Protection Act, a constitutional amendment which defended traditional, man-woman marriage.

This donation came to light in 2012 when activists began to use donor lists from the Prop 8 campaign to "out" supporters of traditional marriage.

Once Eich was chosen to lead Mozilla, some employees of the company took to social media to attack their new boss.
Those attacks led to dating website OkCupid's warning to Firefox users that the web browser's creator is a homophobe.
Mozilla has defended its choice and affirmed that it is committed to "honouring diversity in sexual orientation."
For his part, Eich has also hastened to explain that he is not a homophobe.

"[It is] my personal commitment to work on new initiatives to reach out to those who feel excluded or who have been marginalised in ways that makes their contributing to Mozilla and to open source difficult," he said.

He went on to say,
I know some will be sceptical about this, and that words alone will not change anything. I can only ask for your support to have the time to ‘show, not tell’; and in the meantime express my sorrow at having caused pain.

You will see exemplary behaviour from me toward everyone in our community, no matter who they are; and the same toward all those whom we hope will join, and for those who use our products. Mozilla’s inclusive health benefits policies will not regress in any way. And I will not tolerate behaviour among community members that violates our Community Participation Guidelines or (for employees) our inclusive and non-discriminatory employment policies.
Eich isn't alone as a recent target.

Earlier in the month, gay advocacy groups targeted liberal journalist Ezra Klein for hiring a gay Christian to be a writer for his newly launched Vox news website. Gay activists called him a "homophobe" and demanded that Klein fire the newly hired writer.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/31/Gay-Rights-Activists-are-Going-After-Firefox-Next
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This month, users of OkCupid are discovering that the next company up for destruction by gay rights groups
Hmm. What previous companies were destroyed by gay rights groups? Please name one.
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You know it's hack journalism when they liberally pepper an article with air-quotes.
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I read about this over the weekend. I wasn't happy about this guy coming on board, but this is one time I have to stand my ground. They'll take my Firefox from my cold dead hands! I've tried every other browser known to mankind and for me personally none come anywhere near Firefox in meeting my requirements.

This guy can have whatever personal beliefs he wants as far as I'm concerned, as long as he doesn't try to turn Mozilla into his personal pulpit.
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"... Prop 8, the California Marriage Protection Act, a constitutional amendment which defended traditional, man-woman marriage."

That's not what Prop 8 did -- it called for the Calif state constitution to be amended to provide that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California".

The concept of "traditional, man-woman marriage" has never been subject to attack under Calif law, so it's never needed to be "defended".

What Prop 8 did was attack a different kind of marriage -- one between 2 people of the same sex -- & provide that such marriages would not be "valid or recognized" under Calif law.

The only reason for making a financial contribution to support Prop 8 was to prevent gay people from marrying each other. In short: bigotry.

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The freeper fundie cunts across this great land are now changing the argot from "traditional marriage" to "natural marriage."

Let's so how that works out for them. :rofl
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I used to use Firefox all the time. But I switched to Google Chrome two years ago and never looked back. Far less glitchy. No crashes.
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Once again it's the 'gay gestapo', bullies looking for someone or something to try and take out. Their tactics are wearing thin, how long before the other side fights back?
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Apr 2 2014, 06:01 AM
Once again it's the 'gay gestapo', bullies looking for someone or something to try and take out. Their tactics are wearing thin, how long before the other side fights back?
The "other side" started this fight a long time ago.

The only difference: People in favor of gay civil rights are WINNING.

Which is why double-good-plus propganda handmaidens of the right like you are pretending people who are against gay civil rights haven't begun to fight. :rofl
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That should be "double-plus-good."

(I get you all's lingo wrong sometimes.)
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It's been a long time since I tried Chrome so I broke down last night and downloaded it again. I'm very impressed. They've made many improvements. The extensions they have available aren't as numerous as FF, but I pretty much found everything I needed. It's good that they've built in Flash and a PDF reader rather than forcing you to download it on your own. And the startup speed is far superior to FF.

I've decided to make it my default browser for the time being. If I don't find a reason to have to use FF by the weekend it will be au revoir Mozilla.
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I remember Doubleplusgood from my bar days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtddCn0F964
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Apr 2 2014, 06:01 AM
how long before the other side fights back?
Very long. They are not wanting to get off the couch, being full of their processed Chik-Fil-As and Cracker Barrel pie.

As for the browsers, I use Chrome because it's Google and then ties in with everything else. Google apps, my Droid phone (a Google product), etc. They've integrated things in ways Microsoft or other companies can only dream of.
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I do find Chrome to be very quick an unobtrusive.
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Why is this bigoted freeper allowed to continue posting here? Does he or she have to start calling us diseased fags to get banned?
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Because I don't want this place to become another Qwhip with everyone sitting around kissing each other's asses all day long. I see nothing wrong with people here disagreeing with each other on any topic. In fact I think it's good. And the poster you reference has never said anything disrespectful to anyone here and I can't imagine that he would start anytime soon.
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I don't want this person banned because I don't really care about his shtick or the foolish websites he apparently frequents.

But let's be clear: This is not some reasonable person who simply has a difference of opinion.

This is a flame-throwing provocateur. He starts threads with one purpose only: to annoy.

It's never about providing a point of view. Otherwise, he would actually engage in discussions about the topic started. But he [they?] doesn't. It's all about lobbing a grenade from Breitbart (or some other site only crazy, paranoid, fascist nut-jobs frequent) because he knows it will rile the liberal sensibilities of the majority of this board.

He is nothing more than that well known Internet phenomenon: a troll.
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I'll have to leave the discussion of any motivation he may have up to him. There's always some provocation involved from both sides when conservatives and liberals are in the mix. I think the back and forth provocation is good as long as it doesn't get vicious.

Liberal minded people are very quick to tout the belief in freedom of speech. I just don't want us to get to the point it appears we do that here only as long as we agree with what the other side is saying.
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The Mozilla guy is leaving.
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I wonder how much input the people above him at Mozilla had in this decision. I'm betting it was considerable. It's nice to see that we homos wield as much power as we do. We can be a force to be reckoned with, that's for sure. This all happened much faster than I would have ever expected.
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Who's above a CEO?
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The CEO donated $1,000.00, not a huge sum. Was he just an easy target or what?
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Who's above a CEO?
The COB and board of directors of Mozilla.
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The CEO donated $1,000.00, not a huge sum. Was he just an easy target or what?


He wouldn't have donated one cent if he weren't opposed to equal rights for gays & lesbians. It's the principle, not the amount.
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The CEO donated $1,000.00, not a huge sum. Was he just an easy target or what?
Clearly, we differ on this, but I don't find a cheap bigot more sympathetic than a generous one.
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Yeah, not quite following the logic espoused by one or two people here whereby Brendan Eich can donate money to a cause designed to make gays' and lesbians' lives harder (no less, by taking away our right to do something that will have zero affect on Eich's life or his rights) and that's just peachy keen, but when gay people express an opinion or even just publicize a simple FACT about Eich that makes his life harder, we are bullies, tyrants, the gay gestapo, etc.
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Is anyone designing an armband?
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“I speak with authority here, because I was openly gay before the ‘Stonewall rebellion,’ when it cost you something to be so. And I personally feel as a libertarian that people have the right to free thought and free speech,” Paglia, a professor at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, said on Laura Ingraham’s radio show Thursday.

“In a democratic country, people have the right to be homophobic as well as they have the right to support homosexuality — as I one hundred percent do. If people are basing their views against gays on the Bible, again they have a right of religious freedom there,” she added.


Camille Paglia

http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/19/paglia-duck-dynasty-uproar-utterly-fascist-utterly-stalinist/?onswipe_redirect=no
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He's the spitting image of Glenn Beck. :spew
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He's a co-founder of Mozilla and I would like to know what other donations he has given to other causes than just this $1,000. OK kiss should show a list of ALL of his donations, it seems to me they cherry picked just this one. In the interest of fairness show ALL of his donations, then determine if there is a pattern.
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Why? If somebody throws one of their teenage kids out of the house for being gay, do we need to factor in the love they give to the remaining straight teens out of fairness?
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“In a democratic country, people have the right to be homophobic"


This is such a stupid, straw man argument.

Nobody is saying they can't be homophobic.

What they are saying is that if you are in the marketplace selling something (of, in the case of those Duck Dynasty actors/con-artists, yourself) then you shouldn't be surprised if people don't wish to buy from people they find repellent.
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I wish they'd make a porn knockoff, Fuck GuyNasty, a bunch of ZZTop rednecks humping each other in the backwoods. Yummers.
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then you shouldn't be surprised if people don't wish to buy from people they find repellent.


Gay's want to stay at B & B's and shop at bakeries they find repellent. Why?
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Andrew Sullivan Worries LGBT Movement Becoming Like Religious Right

After learning that Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich would resign over his anti-gay marriage views, Andrew Sullivan lamented that perhaps the LGBT movement has become a bit too much like the religious right.

“The guy who had the gall to express his First Amendment rights and favor Prop 8 in California by donating $1,000 has just been scalped by some gay activists,” Sullivan wrote of Eich’s resignation.

Eich’s donation in support of California’s anti-gay marriage amendment has long been the source of controversy. Upon being announced as the browser company’s new chief, LGBT groups began calling for boycotts. Popular dating site OkCupid changed their homepage for Mozilla users to feature a message discouraging members from using the company’s Firefox browser.

“Will he now be forced to walk through the streets in shame? Why not the stocks?” Sullivan snarked. “The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society.”

Sullivan has long been a strong defender of LGBT causes, but as indicated in the blog post, he’s not sure the movement has progressed with this development.

“If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out,” he concluded. “If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us.”

Sullivan is certainly onto something here.

For one, Eich’s views are wrong, but they are completely irrelevant to how he’d run the browser company. It’s not as though Firefox would suddenly veer into anti-gay territory, complete with a “Prop 8 Toolbar” or something. It would be bad for business for Eich to have done anything but continue providing a service that many use without political controversy.

While I find most boycotts silly and unnecessary, they are always the preferable route (over government force) to changing the marketplace. But claiming the scalp of an executive whose views have almost nothing to do with his business is a bit excessive and the result of misplaced targeting.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/andrew-sullivan-worries-lgbt-movement-becoming-like-religious-right/
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On Thursday, Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich resigned thanks to pressure by both the company infrastructure and the left over a $1,000 donation he made to Proposition 8, a 2008 ballot initiative that would have enshrined traditional marriage as the standard for state marriage in California.

The firing followed a campaign against Eich by dating website OKCupid, in which OKCupid blocked Mozilla users from visiting their website, instead directing them to a message declaring:

Hello, there, Mozilla Firefox user. Pardon this interruption of your OKCupid experience. Mozilla’s new CEO, Brendan Eich, is an opponent of equal rights for gay couples. We would therefore prefer that our users not use Mozilla software to access OKCupid…

If individuals like Mr. Eich had their way, then roughly 8% of the relationships we’ve worked so hard to bring about would be illegal…Those who seek to deny love and instead enforce misery, shame, and frustration are our enemies, and we wish them nothing but failure.”

Mozilla and Eich have never discriminated against gay couples. Mozilla’s firing of Eich, however, represents discrimination on the basis of conservative philosophy. That is the case being made by conservative anti-media activist group TruthRevolt.org, led by Breitbart News senior editor-at-large Ben Shapiro. On Thursday evening, TruthRevolt.org launched a petition urging Americans to stop using Mozilla, as well as a Facebook page.

Furthermore, Shapiro announced that TruthRevolt.org would strike back at Mozilla by blocking its Firefox browser. Visitors to TruthRevolt.org using Mozilla are now met by the following message:

Pardon this interruption of your TruthRevolt experience. Mozilla recently forced its CEO, Brendan Eich, to resign over his personal support for traditional marriage. The firing followed a vicious smear campaign against Eich by dating website OKCupid, in which OKCupid blocked Mozilla users from visiting their website.

We would therefore prefer that our users not use Mozilla software to access TruthRevolt, given Mozilla’s crackdown on political and religious positions held by millions of Americans.

To sign our petition vowing to uninstall or cease using Mozilla Firefox, Mozilla users can still click here.

Going forward we urge you to consider a different web browser for accessing TruthRevolt.org.
Here are a few alternatives:
Google Chrome | Safari | Opera | Internet Explorer

Shapiro explained to Breitbart News, “The hypocrites who seek to bully and destroy the lives of those with whom they disagree must be held to their own standards of conduct. Our organization seeks to create mutually assured destruction: if the left is going to bully conservatives into silence, we will punch back twice as hard. The minute leftists recognize free speech principles apply to everyone, not just selectively to those on the left, we will be happy to cease using leftist tactics. Until then, civility is a waste of breath.”

Shapiro continued, “Andrew Breitbart’s mission was more voices, not less. If the right sits idly by while the left bludgeons conservatives into silence, we will get precisely the opposite. Mutually assured destruction is the name of the game. There is only one thing worse than using leftist tactics: watching the left do it and win while we decry their poor sportsmanship. We hope other conservative websites will join our cause.”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/04/03/TruthRevolt-blocks-Mozilla
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then you shouldn't be surprised if people don't wish to buy from people they find repellent.


Gay's want to stay at B & B's and shop at bakeries they find repellent. Why?
Gays [note the lack of an apostrophe] want to have the same civil rights everyone else has, which includes the right to avail themselves to any business open to the public if it suits them to do so.
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Andrew Sullivan Worries LGBT Movement Becoming Like Religious Right

After learning that Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich would resign over his anti-gay marriage views, Andrew Sullivan lamented that perhaps the LGBT movement has become a bit too much like the religious right.

“The guy who had the gall to express his First Amendment rights and favor Prop 8 in California by donating $1,000 has just been scalped by some gay activists,” Sullivan wrote of Eich’s resignation.

Eich’s donation in support of California’s anti-gay marriage amendment has long been the source of controversy. Upon being announced as the browser company’s new chief, LGBT groups began calling for boycotts. Popular dating site OkCupid changed their homepage for Mozilla users to feature a message discouraging members from using the company’s Firefox browser.

“Will he now be forced to walk through the streets in shame? Why not the stocks?” Sullivan snarked. “The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society.”

Sullivan has long been a strong defender of LGBT causes, but as indicated in the blog post, he’s not sure the movement has progressed with this development.

“If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out,” he concluded. “If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us.”

Sullivan is certainly onto something here.

For one, Eich’s views are wrong, but they are completely irrelevant to how he’d run the browser company. It’s not as though Firefox would suddenly veer into anti-gay territory, complete with a “Prop 8 Toolbar” or something. It would be bad for business for Eich to have done anything but continue providing a service that many use without political controversy.

While I find most boycotts silly and unnecessary, they are always the preferable route (over government force) to changing the marketplace. But claiming the scalp of an executive whose views have almost nothing to do with his business is a bit excessive and the result of misplaced targeting.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/andrew-sullivan-worries-lgbt-movement-becoming-like-religious-right/
Is this the same Milky Loads who was a cheerleader for Bush's trumped up war?

Yeah, I listen to everything he says. :rofl
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Shapiro continued, “Andrew Breitbart’s mission was more voices, not less. If the right sits idly by while the left bludgeons conservatives into silence, we will get precisely the opposite. Mutually assured destruction is the name of the game. There is only one thing worse than using leftist tactics: watching the left do it and win while we decry their poor sportsmanship. We hope other conservative websites will join our cause.”

The fascists' Persecution Complex is rather amusing to witness.
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Shapiro continued, “Andrew Breitbart’s mission was more voices, not less. If the right sits idly by while the left bludgeons conservatives into silence, we will get precisely the opposite. Mutually assured destruction is the name of the game. There is only one thing worse than using leftist tactics: watching the left do it and win while we decry their poor sportsmanship. We hope other conservative websites will join our cause.”


:crybaby WAAAAAAAA! We're losing the Cultural War to those progressive meanies! :crybaby
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“The guy who had the gall to express his First Amendment rights and favor Prop 8 in California by donating $1,000 has just been scalped by some gay activists,” Sullivan wrote of Eich’s resignation.
Since when is funding something considered Free Speech? What specifically is the definition of Free Speech? Does it include action? Does it include monetary transfer?

And why do conservatives continually bring out the First Amendment/Free Speech mantra when it clearly means freedom from government censureship, not freedom from outrage by the general public?
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R41, you need to keep up, didn't SCOTUS just rule, donations ARE free speech.
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R41, you need to keep up, didn't SCOTUS just rule, donations ARE free speech.
So are boycotts to protest that speech, you idiot.
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Does anyone with a life and a brain seriously even care?!
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On Thursday, CEO Brendan Eich of Mozilla was forced out of his job thanks to his $1,000 donation to the Proposition 8 pro-traditional marriage effort in California in 2008. At that point, he held the exact same position as Barack Obama on traditional marriage. Now, that position has soured in the nostrils of the militant left, which seeks to ruin the lives of those with whom it disagrees.

Mozilla’s cave-in to the militants over at OKCupid, a dating site that labeled Eich one of its “enemies” thanks to his position, represents just the latest assault on conservatives in the online space. It’s not illegal for Mozilla to dump Eich nor for OKCupid to call for that ouster – nor should it be – but it is certainly wrong, and in violation of basic principles of free speech that the internet is supposed to guarantee. It is purely Orwellian that Mozilla’s response to Eich’s resignation suggested that ensuring “equality and free speech” led to that resignation.

Unfortunately, such crackdowns on free speech principles have become all too common among members of the leftist online community. Here are the top five examples:

Google Adsense Shuts Down WorldNetDaily. On February 6, Google Adsense notified WorldNetDaily’s Joseph Farah that it would be cancelling WND’s account thanks to a “policy violation email this morning regarding negative/hate speech particularly with the repeated references to ‘black mobs,’ although I don’t know that this is specifically what it’s limited to.” Farah told Breitbart News that Google explained, “The reviewers cited a number articles [sic] with usage of this term specifically and in general asks that no ad code is placed on articles containing hate/anti or sensitive content as this is against Adsense policies and does not provide a good experience for users and advertisers.”

WND’s sin: covering the so-called “knockout game” phenomenon, in which black youths attacked and beat white and Jewish passersby. The phenomenon received national media attention. Apparently observing the race of those participating in the game was enough to put WND on Google Adsense’s banned list.

Kickstarter Shuts Down Campaign to Raise Money for Gosnell Film. This week, Kickstarter informed filmmakers Phelim McAleer and his wife Ann McElhinney that it would not allow them to use purely factual language in their attempt to raise $2.1 million for a movie about mass killer abortionist Kermit Gosnell. McAleer explained:

They asked us to remove the descriptions of a serial killer committing his crimes, but in the Belle Gunness [Kickstarter] project they allowed a picture of a dead body on the project page. In addition Kickstarter has hosted and promoted 16 projects about stabbing. Kickstarter has also hosted 5 projects about incest, one project with the "C" word in the project description, 44 projects about rape and 28 projects with the word F**k or F**king in the title. Some of these projects were based on true stories, some were works of fiction, but all were allowed onto Kickstarter.
Kickstarter gave in but maintained that they could remove the project at any time, even after the donation campaign began. McAleer and McElhinney decided instead to move to indiegogo.com for their project.

Facebook Cracks Down on Gun Photos, Anti-Obama Messages. Earlier last month, VentureBeat reported that Facebook could announce new policies designed to crack down on gun-related fanpages. Sources told VentureBeat, “Talks are progressing [between Facebook and Mayors Against Illegal Guns and Moms Demand Action]. The discussions are ongoing; there have been positive developments.”

In October 2012, Facebook shut down the page of a group called Special Operations Speaks after they posted a meme reading, “Obama called the SEALs and THEY got bin Laden. When the SEALs called Obama, THEY GOT DENIED.” The meme received 30,000 shares… until Facebook blocked it. First, Facebook warned the group; then Facebook sent a message: “We removed content you posted. We removed the content you posted or were admin of because it violates Facebook’s Statement of Rights and Responsibilities.” Facebook later apologized.

Instagram Deletes Gun Posts. Facebook and Instagram announced in early March that it would delete all posts offering to buy or sell guns without a background check, as well as banning users 18 and under from viewing gun offers. Facebook also deleted a photo of a 6-month-old child with a bolt-action rifle across her lap.

Twitter Gulag for Conservatives. This one is a rumor, but a widespread one: many conservatives have complained of their accounts being suspended from Twitter. In fact, it’s been termed entering the “Twitter gulag.” Twitchy has detailed this practice and how to avoid being suspended here.

Again, all of this activity is legal. The question is one of appropriateness. For a group of leftists who prize themselves on the primacy of the open internet to target political opposition is hypocritical at best, and nasty at worst.

Ben Shapiro is Senior Editor-At-Large of Breitbart News and author of the New York Times bestseller “Bullies: How the Left’s Culture of Fear and Intimidation Silences America” (Threshold Editions, January 8, 2013). He is also Editor-in-Chief of TruthRevolt.org. Follow Ben Shapiro on Twitter @benshapiro.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/04/Top-5-Crackdowns-on-Internet-Free-Speech
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