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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 18 2015, 05:43 AM (323 Views) | |
| Guest | Jul 18 2015, 05:43 AM Post #1 |
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![]() Nazi salute: A grainy photograph has emerged of the Queen performing a Nazi salute with her family in the gardens at Balmoral 'The Sun has sunk to a new low': British public reacts with fury after tabloid publishes 80-year-old pictures of the seven-year-old Queen and the Queen Mother being taught a Nazi salute Footage has emerged of the Queen being taught Nazi salute by Edward VIII 1933 video shows future King, Elizabeth and Princess Margaret at Balmoral The Queen Mother is also in archive footage, taken as Hitler rose to power Buckingham Palace has slammed The Sun's 'exploitation' of the footage http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3165923/Pictured-Queen-taught-NAZI-SALUTE-Edward-VIII-secret-1933-film-Balmoral.html ------Why blame Rupert Murdoch, he only published something that was true. I read a long time ago that the duke had to abdicate because he was a nazi sympathizer not because of Bessie Wallis Warfield Spencer Simpson. She was the scapegoat so the world wouldn't find out the truth about the duke. He and Bessie made trips or trip to Germany and the press didn't say much. So IMO this story is no reason for the Brits to get their panties in a wad. What does this say about the Queen Mum though? Maybe the press built her up to be something she wasn't? |
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| Tybee | Jul 18 2015, 06:15 AM Post #2 |
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Typical fodder from The Sun, one of the lowest forms of journalism ever. The British public is railing at this today. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3165923/Pictured-Queen-taught-NAZI-SALUTE-Edward-VIII-secret-1933-film-Balmoral.html Here's the response to the image by Buckingham Palace. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/queen-nazi-salute-footage-defended-by-palace-10398376.html |
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| Guest | Jul 18 2015, 08:55 AM Post #3 |
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Isn't Prince Phillip a kraut, too? The ineffectual offspring who couldn't prevent WW1: http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/brookings-now/posts/2013/12/family-relationships-that-couldnt-stop-world-war-one |
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| Tybee | Jul 18 2015, 09:14 AM Post #4 |
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No, Prince Philip is Greek. |
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| Guest | Jul 18 2015, 11:18 AM Post #5 |
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It may be a bit of inconvenient history for the the Queen, particularly as she approaches the Jubilee. But it is, no doubt, a bit of true history. The royal family may have changed its name to the English Windsor, but they are still of German roots. And it was no secret that the King's brother was a huge supporter of Hitler. Many of the British aristocracy were supporters of Hitler. They viewed him as an answer to what really scared them: Communism. |
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| Tybee | Jul 18 2015, 11:22 AM Post #6 |
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Diana, when talking to friends after she started to fall out of favor with the extended family, was said to only refer to the Windsors as "the Germans". |
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| Guest | Jul 18 2015, 12:34 PM Post #7 |
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That is English snobbery at its best: When you look down on royalty because you are more English. |
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| Guest | Jul 18 2015, 12:37 PM Post #8 |
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I love how the Daily Mail expresses how SHOCKED and OUTRAGED it is about the Sun publishing those photos by publishing the ENTIRE article with photos AND video! :rofl |
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| Tybee | Jul 18 2015, 12:46 PM Post #9 |
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The Daily Fail is just pissed they didn't publish it first. |
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| Tybee | Jul 18 2015, 01:23 PM Post #10 |
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It really is rather silly for The Sun to infer any Nazi sympathy from the Windsors when that photo was taken. It was 1933 and although Hitler had a reputation of being a bit of a thug the world had yet to see what he would eventually be capable of. WWII didn't break out for 6 years after that shot was taken. By the '40's the Nazi salute took on a whole new and far more sinister meaning. |
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| Erna | Jul 18 2015, 03:08 PM Post #11 |
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History is written by the victors and in the case of the two world wars, re-written by the Anglo/American international banking criminals who engineered both world wars with the idea of destroying Germany, 'rebuilding' it as an occupied territory under the control of the international banking criminals and policed by the American army. The fulfillment of the plan is to create an entire 'united' European continent of debt slaves under the ECB/IMF and policed by their private army(aka NATO). Wake up people- you have been lied to.......follow the money trail! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMCOKNCwHmQ#t=237 Edited by Erna, Jul 18 2015, 03:15 PM.
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| Guest | Jul 18 2015, 05:16 PM Post #12 |
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There was enough information about Hitler even then not to admire him. But even if he were a saint, it is unseemly for a prince to be teaching a possible heir how to show subservience/honor to a foreign politician. |
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| Guest | Jul 19 2015, 10:16 AM Post #13 |
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Even back in 1933, Churchill had returned from a visit to Munich and was warning England about the Nazi menace. |
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| Tybee | Jul 19 2015, 10:47 AM Post #14 |
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Of course they knew he was a nut, and I'm sure they knew he hated Jews. But there's no way they knew how far he was willing to go. I also have no doubt that Elizabeth's uncle Edward (in the image) put them up to the silly salute. Prince Edward was a well known dolt, and a well known bigot and racist. Yet I doubt even he realized just how crazy Hitler was. Hitler courted him for years and envisioned putting him back on the throne as a puppet after he conquered the UK. That's the very reason King George sent him and Wallis Simpson off to the Bahamas. He knew Edward was a moron who was easily cajoled by Hitler. That image was a snippet in time that someone has attempted to make look like QEII was a Jew hating Nazi sympathizer even as a child. |
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| Guest | Jul 19 2015, 11:18 AM Post #15 |
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She probably was a Jew-hating Nazi sympathizer in 1933. Given the attitudes of the British aristocracy at the time, I'd be more shocked if she wasn't. |
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| Tybee | Jul 19 2015, 12:26 PM Post #16 |
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That may have been the case, at least what the royals assumed the Nazi attitude was about the Jews. The holocaust was years away at that point and I doubt the attitudes of the royals would have reached the depraved level that Hitler's did. In their eyes it was probably just typical elitist bigotry, until people actually start being put in concentration camps and killed in gas chambers. |
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| Guest | Jul 19 2015, 01:00 PM Post #17 |
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Oh, yes. Very much so. The royals may have looked down on Jews as not being their sort, but would NEVER had been on board with going anywhere beyond that snobbery, much less the unimaginable horror of the Holocaust. |
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| Tybee | Jul 19 2015, 01:29 PM Post #18 |
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Of all the Royals I believe Princess Margaret and her uncle Prince Edward VIII were the 2 biggest bigots, at least in the 20th century crew. It was well known Margaret hated anyone of color and she also hated Americans. Edward once said of Australian aborigines that "they are the most revolting form of living creatures I've ever seen!! They are the lowest known form of human beings & are the nearest thing to monkeys." Lovely man. Edited by Tybee, Jul 19 2015, 01:30 PM.
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| Guest | Jul 19 2015, 04:02 PM Post #19 |
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By all accounts, Margaret was a cunt. |
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| Roctopus | Jul 20 2015, 10:09 PM Post #20 |
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She said they were "snakes," too. Ha Ha I only know about that because it encouraged a lot of somewhat nutty conspiracy theorists-who actually believe it it literally true.
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| Roctopus | Jul 20 2015, 10:15 PM Post #21 |
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Throughout her life she has never betrayed prejudice of any sort towards any of her subjects. I think it's completely unfair to let a seconds long home movie made over 80 years ago, when she was a little girl besmirch her sterling reputation. During the war she served her nation as an auto mechanic (for the Red Cross, I believe.) Her uncle, who was banished from the country was a Nazi sympathizer-not Elizabeth. |
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| Erna | Jul 21 2015, 03:10 AM Post #22 |
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Strange, considering that the Rothschilds and the Royal Family are both among the original shareholders in the Bank of England. |
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| Guest | Jul 21 2015, 11:16 AM Post #23 |
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| Roctopus | Jul 21 2015, 11:25 AM Post #24 |
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That was a slip. Should have said revealed prejudice of any sort. I honestly don't think there's any anti-semitism under the surface. |
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conspiracy theorists-who actually believe it it literally true.

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