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This CA school is switching to gender neutral bathrooms for ALL students.
Topic Started: Sep 6 2015, 02:00 PM (222 Views)
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http://news.yahoo.com/school-switching-gender-neutral-bathrooms-students-201124192.html

Out of 365 students, about six to eight kids at Miraloma Elementary don’t adhere to the traditional gender binary—and that makes potty time fraught with anxiety-inducing decisions.

In order to make using the restroom a carefree process for every student, the San Francisco school has started getting rid of gendered bathrooms, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.

So far, the single-stall bathrooms for kindergartners and first graders—which are located within the classroom—are gender neutral. The school plans to phase in bathrooms used by older students over the next few years, including restrooms with multiple stalls.

California is one of just 14 states with laws barring discrimination against students based on sexual orientation or gender identity, according to Human Rights Campaign. The state’s 2013 School Success and Opportunity Act grants students the right to use bathrooms and play in gender-segregated sports that match their gender identity. While many schools offer one gender-neutral bathroom for students on the gender spectrum along with traditional boys’ and girls’ rooms, Miraloma’s principal, Sam Bass, wanted to do more.

“We are the first elementary school in the district to say that’s not good enough,” Bass wrote on the school website. “All of our students should have full, equal, safe, comfortable access to facilities.”

Bathrooms have become something of a battleground for transgender rights. A federal judge ruled Friday that a transgender teen could not use the boys’ room at his Virginia high school. More than 100 students at a Missouri high school walked out in protest of a transgender girl being allowed to use the girls’ bathroom and locker room. In both schools, the students have used gender-neutral bathrooms while their peers use the boys’ and girls’ room. Both students have said such segregation unfairly singles them out.

At Miraloma, no student will feel othered when they need a bathroom break because all students use the same facilities.

“I think most people don’t think about how difficult it can be, going to the bathroom for someone like my son,” Jae, the mom of a first grader at Miraloma, told the Chronicle. (Out of concern for her son’s safety, she only gave her first name.) Choosing a bathroom is difficult for Jae’s child, who was born male and identifies as a boy, but prefers to keep his hair long and wear traditionally feminine clothing. At summer camp, he wet himself rather than face a gendered bathroom.

Such conflicts are common for kids who don’t fit the gender binary. Older students will also avoid using the bathroom for an entire school day, which can lead to urinary tract infections and chronic constipation. That’s why the U.S. Department of Labor cited restroom access as matter of “health and safety” in new guidelines for companies looking to integrate transgender employees.

The school will continue working with parents and faculty to create restrooms that make all of the students feel comfortable as they get older. But so far, the parents at Miraloma are pleased with the changes.

“There are absolutely parents with questions, more about the logistics than anything else,” Ellen Schatz, the school’s PTA president, told ABC News. “I haven’t heard a single parent say they didn’t like this or thought it was unnecessary.”

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I wonder how many of those 6 to 8 kids have parents who are doing everything in their power to get their kids to believe they're a different sex than what they were born as.
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Sep 6 2015, 02:06 PM
I wonder how many of those 6 to 8 kids have parents who are doing everything in their power to get their kids to believe they're a different sex than what they were born as.
Good question.

If any of those kids are actually trans what's wrong with letting them use the bathroom of the sex/gender they are imitating?
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Sep 6 2015, 03:52 PM
If any of those kids are actually trans what's wrong with letting them use the bathroom of the sex/gender they are imitating?
IMO, until a person has been physically altered through surgery they are still the physical sex they were born as. You can dress a boy up in girl's clothes all day long but if he still has a penis and testicles under that frock then he's still physically a male. Same with a girl dressing in boys clothes. Until her breasts and vagina are removed and her clitoris is surgically transformed into a penis she is still a girl. Just thinking you're a different sex doesn't make you that sex, and IMO other people should not have to cater to another person's thoughts/delusions about what sex they are.

If they're going to let these gender neutral restrooms happen in schools they may as well just make all public restrooms uni-sex.
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Sep 6 2015, 04:34 PM
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Sep 6 2015, 03:52 PM
If any of those kids are actually trans what's wrong with letting them use the bathroom of the sex/gender they are imitating?
IMO, until a person has been physically altered through surgery they are still the physical sex they were born as. You can dress a boy up in girl's clothes all day long but if he still has a penis and testicles under that frock then he's still physically a male. Same with a girl dressing in boys clothes. Until her breasts and vagina are removed and her clitoris is surgically transformed into a penis she is still a girl. Just thinking you're a different sex doesn't make you that sex, and IMO other people should not have to cater to another person's thoughts/delusions about what sex they are.

If they're going to let these gender neutral restrooms happen in schools they may as well just make all public restrooms uni-sex.
A lot of places and states already have unisex bathrooms.
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Yes, but I said make them ALL unisex. You'd see how fast people would go crazy.
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In order to make using the restroom a carefree process for every student, the San Francisco school has started getting rid of gendered bathrooms, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.



Potty Time: Needs to Be More Carefree La la dala la la la fiddle dee dee I have to pee....
Walk down Market Street or anyplace in the Tenderloin and you'll see just how "carefree" potty time is.
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Sep 6 2015, 05:02 PM
Yes, but I said make them ALL unisex. You'd see how fast people would go crazy.
Yes people would go crazy.

In the first LGBT bar (it was pretty much the only bar in the area for lesbian, bi, gay, and trans people so everyone went there) I went to they had unisex bathrooms and people who had never been there before would get confused and would ask which bathroom they should use.
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Can you picture some old blue haired granny willingly using the same public restroom as a bunch of men? :eek
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There is one of those in our gym in Barcelona. If we enter and see that a fish is either entering also, in a stall or leaving one we flee for our life lest we be assaulted by vile odors.
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Sep 7 2015, 02:04 AM
There is one of those in our gym in Barcelona. If we enter and see that a fish is either entering also, in a stall or leaving one we flee for our life lest we be assaulted by vile odors.
:rofl That reminds me of how my 2nd bisexual ex was baking bread, and his husband (they had an open marriage ) walked into the kitchen and said "It smells like a women's locker room!" :eek
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There's an old joke from long ago about a blind man who accidentally walks into a fish shop and says "well hello ladies".
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Sep 6 2015, 03:52 PM
If any of those kids are actually trans what's wrong with letting them use the bathroom of the sex/gender they are imitating?
IMO, until a person has been physically altered through surgery they are still the physical sex they were born as. You can dress a boy up in girl's clothes all day long but if he still has a penis and testicles under that frock then he's still physically a male. Same with a girl dressing in boys clothes. Until her breasts and vagina are removed and her clitoris is surgically transformed into a penis she is still a girl. Just thinking you're a different sex doesn't make you that sex, and IMO other people should not have to cater to another person's thoughts/delusions about what sex they are.

If they're going to let these gender neutral restrooms happen in schools they may as well just make all public restrooms uni-sex.
Trans"men" seem to over compensate for being genetically and biologically female.

I have seen trans"men" online who tried to be masculine and it all just came out as being fake, especially the one that had the word 'Maricon' or Spanish for f___t or faerie as a tattoo. :rofl

I have seen pics of Trans-men who had surgery and an appendage made from an arm or leg, or elongated clit, or dildo is not an actual penis.

A lot of trans-men once identified as butch lesbians and some sill use a strapon dildo.

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Sep 6 2015, 08:52 PM
Can you picture some old blue haired granny willingly using the same public restroom as a bunch of men? :eek



https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=14&v=urwnrnHexmM





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That's hilarious, and so close to the real thing it's scary. :lol
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Sep 16 2015, 07:56 PM
That's hilarious, and so close to the real thing it's scary. :lol
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/02/15/a-sex-predators-sick-deception
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Good God, it's son of Frankenstein.
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http://southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s18e03-the-cissy
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We would flee immediately if we knew that a fish was in the next stall.
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Sep 24 2015, 03:35 AM
We would flee immediately if we knew that a fish was in the next stall.
I have known people who worked as custodians/janitors and they said how the most disgusting bathrooms they have ever seen and had to clean were women's bathrooms. :eek

One day my 2nd bisexual ex was baking bread as he usually did every two weeks, and our other roommate and his other partner came in and said, 'It smells like a women's locker room in here!' :rofl
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