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Keep your sunny side up; a Fabulous eldersister we knew is in the chorus
Topic Started: Sep 15 2015, 01:33 PM (257 Views)
Erna
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4egKiDBYJgc




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Edited by Tybee, Sep 16 2015, 07:53 AM.
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Brings back fond memories of my youth.
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Not a big fan or her singing, but I do give her credit for that opening, making fun of what a bad reputation she had for showing up late or not at all.

You gotta like someone who can laugh at herself.

I am surprised that such a big star would wear the same dress as the chorus girls though.
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Sep 15 2015, 02:29 PM
Not a big fan or her singing, but I do give her credit for that opening, making fun of what a bad reputation she had for showing up late or not at all.

You gotta like someone who can laugh at herself.

I am surprised that such a big star would wear the same dress as the chorus girls though.
It was a low budget productia and they got a better price ordering all the same style.
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"Those chorines would have gone on naked before I wore the same gown as them!"

-- a REAL star
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If they had put her in a different dress she wouldn't had been able to blend in and pop out as if by magic.
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That's true.

I assumed the light was going to around to reveal her in it.
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I still can't figure out how she sneaked around in that group without being noticed. I've watched that video several times and I simply can't pick her out, but she clearly had to be in the group.
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Hah, I found her! If you watch from the 1:52 mark keep your eyes on the klieg light. As they're all mixing and mingling you'll see a man in a dark suit and Judy come out from behind the light and walk toward the front of the group. He's hiding Judy behind him the whole way. You can see her legs behind his after they hit their mark and she then pops out.
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there is a break in the video right before that where judy enters and hides behind the light
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I'm not seeing a break in the filming. At 1:30 the guy openly walks behind the light and stays there even after the others make their marks. You can see his feet behind the light. I believe they had Judy somehow sitting up in the back of that light the whole time. Clearly the brightness of that light is nowhere near what a real klieg light would produce.
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Once you know where she is, you can't not see her.
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Sep 16 2015, 08:51 AM
I'm not seeing a break in the filming. At 1:30 the guy openly walks behind the light and stays there even after the others make their marks. You can see his feet behind the light. I believe they had Judy somehow sitting up in the back of that light the whole time. Clearly the brightness of that light is nowhere near what a real klieg light would produce.
there is a very brief edit cut, you can't see it? That of course is where they cut the part where Judy goes behind the light.
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There is a cut after, too.

What is odd is that they just didn't cut to where she is already with them, behind the male dancer.

There really wasn't any need to bring her from the light, except to try to trick the few people in the studio audience.
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No I don't see any cutaways. It would make no sense to do anything like that when they easily could have her sitting on the backside of that light all along.

I remember the show well. It was filmed in front of a large live audience which the cameras caught site of at various times, especially when it started out as a variety show. Judy was so bad at doing sketch comedy they eventually changed the show over to an all music format and never again let her do anything but be Judy Garland. By that time Judy was pretty much strung out every waking hour. Trying to act and move normally was no longer something she could do. She was a walking mass of nervous ticks by then.
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She supported her worthless birth family, three worthless husbands(2 of them sisters) plus raised and supported three children.
Plus her agents Fields and Begelman were stealing millions$$(in today's dollars) from her as she worked.



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That poor woman was used and abused by most everyone she dealt with her entire career, from L.B. Mayer on down. On her own she had no idea how to get herself out of all that abuse and clearly no one was ever able to do anything to help her out. They only thing they helped was themselves to whatever money they could get out of her, which wasn't much the closer she got to the end.
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As our mother said: "It was a very sad story but now she's at peace"
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Tybee
Sep 16 2015, 08:14 AM
Hah, I found her! If you watch from the 1:52 mark keep your eyes on the klieg light. As they're all mixing and mingling you'll see a man in a dark suit and Judy come out from behind the light and walk toward the front of the group. He's hiding Judy behind him the whole way. You can see her legs behind his after they hit their mark and she then pops out.
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BTW, kudos on being tech-savvy enough to screen grab frames of a YouTube video and annotate same!
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This old man still knows a computer trick or 2. :lol
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No disrespect to any of you but I just never realized the impact of this woman on gay men's lives. To me she was in some movie with a cute dog named Toto.
I'm sure she was a lovely person but she's been dead, what, maybe 20, 30 years.
I find it incredible that her life seems to be more revered and remembered than say a government leader fighting to end poverty or hunger or philosopher with human behavior insights.

What exactly is it about her that folks lionize her and her tragic life?
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Sep 16 2015, 03:16 PM
No disrespect to any of you but I just never realized the impact of this woman on gay men's lives. To me she was in some movie with a cute dog named Toto.
I'm sure she was a lovely person but she's been dead, what, maybe 20, 30 years.
I find it incredible that her life seems to be more revered and remembered than say a government leader fighting to end poverty or hunger or philosopher with human behavior insights.

What exactly is it about her that folks lionize her and her tragic life?
I think it is a generational thing.

She means very little to me, as I didn't grow up with her.

There will be public figures important to you that younger people will not get at all.
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Sep 16 2015, 02:41 PM
Tybee
Sep 16 2015, 08:14 AM
Hah, I found her! If you watch from the 1:52 mark keep your eyes on the klieg light. As they're all mixing and mingling you'll see a man in a dark suit and Judy come out from behind the light and walk toward the front of the group. He's hiding Judy behind him the whole way. You can see her legs behind his after they hit their mark and she then pops out.
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BTW, kudos on being tech-savvy enough to screen grab frames of a YouTube video and annotate same!
Judy was giving the male dancer surprise anal.
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It's been said that the 'mo's idolize her because of her ability to constantly overcome adversity (or at least appear to). Personally I've never understood that angle. I had little choice but to learn to like her singing ability because my mother was a major fan and I was raised on Judy Garland's music, and all the big band singers of the time. And I've always had a great appreciation for that kind of music. Listening to Judy, Frank Sinatra, Shirley Bassey, and so many others literally takes me into another frame of mind, a happier place. It's the only genre of music I can sit back and listen to with my eyes closed and completely block everything else out.
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Yes, ITA.

OT, but I've noticed in the shops here in a tourist oriented town, that music from the 40s and 50s is increasingly on the play list especially in the hip and happenin shops for the yougins.

Something new here, "Urban Outfitters", plays that feel good music.
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Someone slap me, but I even like Englebert Humperdink.

QUANDO QUANDO QUANDO :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=128LI6_4L-s
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When, as a young teen, we were locked in that fancy funny farm in Hartford the only thing that kept us going was being able to listen to Judy at Carnegie Hall over and over again. It was our only reminder that there was still a wonderful world out there.
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