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MPC will you stay if they vote for independence; for the Catalan region?
Topic Started: Sep 27 2015, 08:47 AM (122 Views)
Tybee
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Barcelona (AFP) - Catalans braced Saturday for an election dubbed the most important in Spain's recent history, with polls pointing to a win by separatists who are vowing to declare the region independent.

After an emotional climax to campaigning on Friday, the rich northeastern region entered a quiet day of truce before Sunday's ballots, which Catalan leaders have framed as an indirect vote on breaking away from Spain.

Centre-right national newspaper El Mundo called them "the most important elections in the democratic era" since the death of the dictator Francisco Franco in 1975.

Moderate Catalan daily La Vanguardia called it "an unavoidable vote".

"These elections are special. They have aroused interest and great expectations in Catalonia and around the world," said Meritxell Borras, the regional government's top electoral official on Saturday.

She said applications for postal ballots had increased by 70 percent compared to Catalonia's last regional election in 2012, indicating that turnout among its 5.5 million voters would be higher this time.

But opponents of secession such as the Spanish government "make you doubt it. They say we'll end up without jobs," she said.

Campaigning against secession, Spain's Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy defended Catalans who do not want to break away.

"We are going through a time of confrontation. We are under pressure," said Maria Garcia, a 43-year-old computer specialist at Rajoy's closing campaign rally on Friday.

"The rest of Spain thinks we are all nationalists, but it is not true. And here, if you don't have a Catalan-sounding name, they are suspicious of you."

- Independence camp confident -

If Catalonia's 7.5 million inhabitants broke away, Spain would lose 16 percent of its population, a quarter of its exports, a fifth of its overall economic output and hundreds of miles of strategic Mediterranean coastline.

Since the Spanish government has blocked his bid to hold a referendum, regional president Artur Mas has vowed to launch a roadmap towards independence by 2017 if he wins his majority.

To do so they will likely need to strike an accord with CUP, an anti-capitalist citizens' movement.

The latest opinion polls from the start of this week show the conservative Mas and his left-wing allies in the pro-independence list "Together For Yes" could win a majority in the Catalan parliament and nearly half the votes overall.

Internal surveys doing the rounds of the campaign offices over recent days confirmed that trend, according to two pollsters consulted by AFP.

"It is looking good" for the independence camp, said Alfred Bosch, one of the leaders of the left-wing ERC party, Mas's main allies in the election.

"A great many people are voting by post. I have never seen a campaign with so much popular enthusiasm," he told AFP.

- 'Historic' Catalan election -

Rival leaders wrapped up their campaigns Friday among the red and gold of Spanish flags in one camp and of striped Catalan ones in the other.

Mas told a crowd of tens of thousands of supporters that the election would "lead to freedom".

"Sunday is a special day for the future of Catalonia. It is a historic day," he bellowed.

Rajoy meanwhile urged voters to return Catalonia to "normality" after three years of mounting tension over separatist demands, fanned by the economic crisis.

The anti-independence vote is split between various groups, including Rajoy's Popular Party and the upstart centrists of Ciudadanos -- a sign of the new political dynamic in Spain.

http://news.yahoo.com/catalans-brace-historic-election-independence-154925275.html
Edited by Tybee, Sep 27 2015, 08:50 AM.
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Tybee
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Yoohoo, Lady C., did you miss this thread?
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This is organized by the banking criminals of the ECB, it has been financed with taxpayer funds (illegal?) for years and includes propaganda in the schools, etc. If they were setting up a new country on the model of, say, Switzerland, we would be all in favor. But they are proposing something from hell and it is by criminals. We doubt that it will happen anytime soon, despite this 'vote', but we are trying to reduce our exposure there as we type. We fear loss of money, but that is our lesson for our stupidity.
The Port of Barcelona, the coastal beaches and the airport are all Federal. We wonder if the criminals plan to confiscate these from Spain? We hope Madrid sends the army in and blows these a-holes to kingdom come.

Only morons and criminals are voting for this. Not everyone in Catalunya is in favor of this. We fear confiscatia of foreigners' property, but the financial markets are saying it will not happen.

Businesses are fleeing for their lives from Catalunya.
Edited by Erna, Sep 27 2015, 02:41 PM.
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What are the polls saying? Or do they even do polls in Spain. Polls are more often than not completely wrong, but it's always interesting to see what the pollsters are claiming may happen.
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Erna
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Would you even believe that the true vote will be reported in this banana republic?

In their previous 'vote' for independence they even allowed children to vote.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-24/the-propaganda-army-fighting-to-wrest-catalonia-away-from-spain
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So I hear the vote failed. And now there's talk of trying the head of the Catalonian government, Artur Mas.
Edited by Tybee, Sep 29 2015, 12:30 PM.
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Erna
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We observed a Federal Police Van (from Madrid) with two hulking tall scorching hot muscled numbers in very tight fitting uniforms with machine guns in hand to prevent 'trouble', here in Placa Catalunya yesterday.They looked like they had just stepped out of a gay pron film.


We felt very good seeing them there.
We also would have liked to do 'certain things' with them but thought it unwise to ask.
Edited by Erna, Sep 29 2015, 12:37 PM.
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Yes, Mas is a piece of caca.
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Tybee
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I think Spain has the most incredibly gorgeous cops of any country I've ever visited. I don't remember seeing a single one that wasn't drop dead gorgeous. There must be some rule that all police recruits must be drop dead handsome.

One example
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Edited by Tybee, Sep 29 2015, 12:39 PM.
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And another :eek
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Arrest us, and manhandle us, Please!!!!!!!!!!
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