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gay priest defrocked for having partner
Topic Started: Oct 3 2015, 10:47 AM (174 Views)
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http://news.yahoo.com/vatican-sacks-priest-comes-gay-121640066.html

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican on Saturday dismissed a gay priest from his Holy See job on the eve of a major Church meeting for a highly public coming out that challenged the Roman Catholic teaching that homosexual acts are a sin.

Monsignor Krzysztof Charamsa, a Polish theologian, had worked at the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican's doctrinal arm, since 2003. He was also sacked from his jobs teaching theology at pontifical universities in Rome.

Charamsa, 43, told Italy's Corriere della Sera newspaper that he was gay and had a partner in an interview published on Saturday. The Church does not consider homosexuality a sin but priests, whether heterosexual or gay, are meant to be celibate.

Charasma also held a news conference with his partner and gay activists at a Rome restaurant. They had planned a demonstration in front of the Vatican but changed the venue several hours before it was due to have started.

The Vatican said the dismissal had nothing to do with Charasma's reflections on his personal life, which it said "merit respect".

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Monsignor Krzystof Charamsa smiles as he leaves at the end of his news conference in downtown Rome O …
But it said giving the interview and the planned demonstration was "grave and irresponsible" given their timing on the eve of a synod of bishops who will discuss family issues, including the Church's position on gays.

It said his actions would subject the synod, which Pope Francis is due to open on Sunday, to "undue media pressure".

At the news conference, Charamsa said he wanted to make "an enormous noise for the good of the Church" and apply "good Christian pressure" on the synod not to forget homosexual believers.

"This decision of mine to come out was a very personal one taken in a Catholic Church that is homophobic and very difficult and harsh (towards gays)," he said.

He suggested that a study be made of how many homosexuals work in the Vatican. "We can't continue showing contempt and offence towards homosexuals," he said.

The issue of homosexuality and the Church has dominated the aftermath of the pope's visit to the United States last week.

"I ask the pope to be strong and to remember us, homosexuals, lesbians, transsexuals and bisexuals as children of the Church and members of humanity," Charamsa said.

The Vatican has been embarrassed by a row over the pope's meeting during his U.S. trip with Kim Davis, a Kentucky county clerk who went to jail in September for refusing to honor a U.S. Supreme Court ruling and issue same-sex marriage licences.
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I found this comment on the yahoo article and it reminded me of Lady Campbell. :hmmm

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The Vatican is a demonic deceptive powerful cult that has been hiding in the shadows of Christianity from the beginning of its creation by the Emperor's of Rome as a master plan to control the people and for centuries they openly ruled the world.
They still have power over most of the world yet they are not open about it they use the world banks and militaries to do their callings for them, they started this process less than 250 years ago before that History proves they openly had dominance over any nation that challenged them militarily and financially.

Google Black Pope or Jesuit Society and learn the truth about the Vatican

A gay priest is nothing compared to what they are really about.
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Why would you join a criminal club that hates you?
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If she wants to live openly with her husband then she has to follow the rules of her employer.

If she does not like it then she is free to leave!
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I agree with MPC. This guy knew the rules when he chose to join that cult so there's no need to start whining now. You lay with dogs and you'll wake up with fleas. If he thinks he's going to make a change in Vatican policies he's nuts.
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Oct 3 2015, 12:04 PM
Why would you join a criminal club that hates you?
I have been told and heard even from devout Roman Catholics that most priests are either gay and closeted, or ped0s. :eek
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Most priests are sisters, this is common knowledge.
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Mrs Patrick Campbell
Oct 3 2015, 02:10 PM
Most priests are sisters, this is common knowledge.
Are there more priests that are sisters? Or more that are ped0s? As the two are completely different things. :hmmm

Discuss!
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Only very stupid people believe that they are pedos, which is basically non-existent on the Hershey Highway.

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That's true. It's a documented fact that the vast majority of pedophiles are white heterosexual men. The fact that they may molest boys and or girls has no bearing on their sexuality or their preference for the sex of their victims at all. They just want children, and if they're in a long term situation where they have access to only one sex of child (such as coaches or boys or girl's school teachers, etc) does not mean they prefer that sex. They take what's easiest.
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Mrs Patrick Campbell
Oct 3 2015, 03:14 PM
Only very stupid people believe that they are pedos, which is basically non-existent on the Hershey Highway.

A fair number of priests are ped0s though, and have been proven and convicted for molesting or sexually abusing boys.

I'm not sure how accurate the numbers are here though, after all the Roman Catholic Church is without doubt the most corrupt institution on the planet that has shamefully covered up horrendous child abuse for centuries and continues to do so today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690575/Pope-Francis-admits-two-cent-Roman-Catholic-priests-paedophiles-interview-Italian-newspaper.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

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I believe that to be true as well. Many pedophiles gravitate toward professions that will give them easy access to, as well as power and influence over children. But I believe just as in the regular population, most of the pedos in the Catholic church are heterosexual.

That said, there does seem to be an inordinately large percentage of homosexuals in the Catholic church, and for obvious reasons. It's a good cover for the fact that they've never married a woman. Saves them all sorts of pain and misery from their families and friends.
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Oct 3 2015, 06:37 PM
Mrs Patrick Campbell
Oct 3 2015, 03:14 PM
Only very stupid people believe that they are pedos, which is basically non-existent on the Hershey Highway.

A fair number of priests are ped0s though, and have been proven and convicted for molesting or sexually abusing boys.

I'm not sure how accurate the numbers are here though, after all the Roman Catholic Church is without doubt the most corrupt institution on the planet that has shamefully covered up horrendous child abuse for centuries and continues to do so today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690575/Pope-Francis-admits-two-cent-Roman-Catholic-priests-paedophiles-interview-Italian-newspaper.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

When did you personally witness such 'acts' or when did someone you know very well and trust personally

witness such acts?

If not, and you are basing your belief on what media/government tells you to believe then you are a total moron.

But since you are probably in the majority it is not so bad!
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Mrs Patrick Campbell
Oct 4 2015, 02:27 AM
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Oct 3 2015, 06:37 PM
When did you personally witness such 'acts' or when did someone you know very well and trust personally

witness such acts?

If not, and you are basing your belief on what media/government tells you to believe then you are a total moron.

But since you are probably in the majority it is not so bad!
A friend of mine was sexually abused by a priest.

A girl I knew growing up her parish priest was convicted of sexually abusing boys.
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please describe the 'abuse' and the ages of the 'boys'....
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Mrs Patrick Campbell
Oct 4 2015, 02:28 PM
please describe the 'abuse' and the ages of the 'boys'....
It was sexual abuse and the boys were not adults or even teenagers; but I'm sure you'll deny that it even happened. :confused
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