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| Guest | May 1 2013, 12:36 PM Post #1 |
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The Pentagon has released a statement confirming that soldiers could be prosecuted for promoting their faith: "Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense...Court martials and non-judicial punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis...”. The statement, released to Fox News, follows a Breitbart News report on Obama administration Pentagon appointees meeting with anti-Christian extremist Mikey Weinstein to develop court-martial procedures to punish Christians in the military who express or share their faith. (From our earlier report: Weinstein is the head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, and says Christians--including chaplains--sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military are guilty of “treason,” and of committing an act of “spiritual rape” as serious a crime as “sexual assault.” He also asserted that Christians sharing their faith in the military are “enemies of the Constitution.”) Being convicted in a court martial means that a soldier has committed a crime under federal military law. Punishment for a court martial can include imprisonment and being dishonorably discharged from the military. So President Barack Obama’s civilian appointees who lead the Pentagon are confirming that the military will make it a crime--possibly resulting in imprisonment--for those in uniform to share their faith. This would include chaplains—military officers who are ordained clergymen of their faith (mostly Christian pastors or priests, or Jewish rabbis)--whose duty since the founding of the U.S. military under George Washington is to teach their faith and minister to the spiritual needs of troops who come to them for counsel, instruction, or comfort. This regulation would severely limit expressions of faith in the military, even on a one-to-one basis between close friends. It could also effectively abolish the position of chaplain in the military, as it would not allow chaplains (or any service members, for that matter), to say anything about their faith that others say led them to think they were being encouraged to make faith part of their life. It’s difficult to imagine how a member of the clergy could give spiritual counseling without saying anything that might be perceived in that fashion. In response to the Pentagon’s plans, retired Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin, who is now executive vice president of the Family Research Council (FRC), said on Fox & Friends this morning: “It’s a matter of what do they mean by ‘proselytizing.’...I think they’ve got their defintions a little confused. If you’re talking about coercion that’s one thing, but if you’re talking about the free exercise of our faith as individual soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines, especially for the chaplains, they I think the worst thing we can do is stop the ability for a soldier to be able to exercise his faith.” FRC has launched a petition here which has already collected over 30,000 signatures, calling on Secretary Hagel is stop working with Weinstein and his anti-Christian organization to develop military policy regarding religious faith. Breitbart News legal columnist Ken Klukowski is senior fellow for religious liberty with the Family Research Council and on faculty at Liberty University School of Law. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/05/01/Breaking-Pentagon-Confirms-Will-Court-Martial-Soldiers-Who-Share-Christian-Faith |
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| Guest | May 1 2013, 12:40 PM Post #2 |
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This isn't about "sharing" your faith, you fascist asswipe. It's about SELLING your faith. People in the military have a reasonable exception to be left alone by religious kooks on our side -- they have enough on their plates dealing with religious kooks on the other side. |
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| Guest | May 1 2013, 12:42 PM Post #3 |
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Family Research Council? CHECK! FOX and Friends? CHECK! Breitbart News? CHECK! Liberty University School of Law? CHECK! Welcome to the Right Wing Echo Chamber! |
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| Tybee | May 1 2013, 12:48 PM Post #4 |
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It's actually funny how these loony right wing groups and psuedo news organizations like Faux News are still so scared of Obama. Actually I think what they're really scared of is the possibility that Hilary will be in the White House after Obama's current term is up. If that happens (and it will if she runs) they all may as well flee the country. |
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| Guest | May 1 2013, 12:51 PM Post #5 |
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The Right Wing Christians has always thrived on a robust Persecution Complex. It will suit them even better, now that they are a marginalized minority. |
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| Guest | May 1 2013, 12:51 PM Post #6 |
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You queens adored Breitbart when he was a liberal, so get over yourselves and try and see the big picture, I know it doesn't come easy for you. |
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| Guest | May 1 2013, 01:00 PM Post #7 |
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I didn't even know who the fuck that coke-addled drunk was until he died. |
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| Tybee | May 1 2013, 01:16 PM Post #8 |
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I had never even heard of Breitbart until he turned into a loon. And of course the only reason he went right wing was because he found out he could make a lot more money that way. Republicans are far more apt to shell out to those who forward their loony ideology than democrats are. And that's primarily because they generally have far more ill gotten gains to shell out than most democrats. |
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| Guest | May 1 2013, 01:31 PM Post #9 |
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I guess Arianna Huffington made enough money when she was Republican so she turned Democrat? Does she give Andrew any credit for helping set up her site? |
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| Tybee | May 1 2013, 01:44 PM Post #10 |
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I don't know anything about her. I've never been able to stand her frankly. Face it, in politics and the media industry they're all corrupt to one degree or another. It's just that the left wing is somewhat less corrupt than the right wing. |
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| Erna | May 1 2013, 02:00 PM Post #11 |
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Atheism is the official religia of the NWO. |
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| Guest | May 1 2013, 02:47 PM Post #12 |
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Well, Christianity was the religion of Nazi Germany, so bring on the NWO, whatever the fuck that is. |
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| Erna | May 1 2013, 03:03 PM Post #13 |
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Nazi Germany was basically a creation of British Intelligence (= NWO)! |
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| Deleted User | May 1 2013, 04:17 PM Post #14 |
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Does watching "Military Classifieds" porn count as faith in the military? |
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| Deleted User | May 1 2013, 04:18 PM Post #15 |
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Link, please. |
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| Erna | May 1 2013, 04:37 PM Post #16 |
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These people are not the best source but the general idea is that Britain was out to destroy Germany by the end of the 19th century, due to germany's overwhelming industrial superiority, etc. at the time. It is a very involved story but the informatia is there if you look for it. We don't like using Rense because they are basically CIA but it is a starting point. http://rense.com/general50/itle.htm |
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| Deleted User | May 1 2013, 04:52 PM Post #17 |
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MPC, if you wrote a novel, I would definitely read it. |
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| Guest | May 1 2013, 04:58 PM Post #18 |
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Yes, England must have been so jealous of Germany starting the Industrial Revolution in the 19th Century! |
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| Guest | May 1 2013, 05:09 PM Post #19 |
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NWO = New World Order, otherwise known as the weather underground manifesto. Not to change the thread but my b. p. generic pills that were 1.00 were 8.00 today. Is that NWO? |
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| Tybee | May 1 2013, 05:11 PM Post #20 |
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No that's just a typical crooked drug manufacturer pricing scam. |
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| Guest | May 2 2013, 02:35 AM Post #21 |
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Hardly. Wikipedia says he went conservative in 1991 -- I don't think anyone here knew who he was before 1991. He hadn't even graduated from college yet. |
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| Erna | May 2 2013, 03:02 AM Post #22 |
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Miss PP: Read "The Creature from Jeckyl Island" http://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/0912986212/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1367481483&sr=1-1&keywords=the+creature+from+Jeckyll+island and also "The World Order" by Eustace Mullins(we have the pdf if you want us to send it to you). After reading these two scrupulously researched and documented books you will have a much better understanding of things like the Anglo/American banking cartel and how it created horrors like WWI and WWII. The truth is a lot different from what we were taught in history class.....
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| Guest | May 2 2013, 05:58 AM Post #23 |
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Yes, absolutely, everyone should read Eustace Mullins, author of the seminal article "Adolf Hitler: An Appreciation." |
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| Erna | May 2 2013, 06:29 AM Post #24 |
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It is true that the International bankers (some Jewish, some not) with their tool FDR led the USA into the war. The rest is certainly not correct, and we are not really sure that Eustace actually wrote it. |
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| Tybee | May 2 2013, 06:39 AM Post #25 |
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MPC you should learn not to let things you have zero power to change bother you so much. Con artists, crooks, and thieves have inhabited every level of civilization since the beginning of humanity. It's always perplexing to me when people get are shocked when they find out some person or organization has been involved in underhanded dealings. As long as enough of them are eventually caught and punished civilization will plod along. That doesn't worry me much. The worrying will start if the day comes there are no honest people left to catch these scalawags and bring them to justice. It looks like you and others don't trust anyone in government service or the banking industry. There may be plenty to distrust about those 2 groups, but there are honest people within them. There are enough politicians and bankers who have been convicted of official malfeasance and have been or are currently in prison to prove that. The foxes aren't running the hen house.......................yet. |
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| Erna | May 2 2013, 07:22 AM Post #26 |
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You are correct, Tybee, but we think it is very useful to know what is really going on instead of passively believing what the government/media/educational system/medical industry tell you to believe and then repeating it back like a parrot. |
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